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Vanagoon posted:Will Americans ever be persuaded to give a poo poo about fuel economy or will they insistently continue their profligate waste until there is absolutely no other choice but to change? Never. Fuel is more expensive in Australia and you know what are top 3 selling vehicles are? Trucks. hilux, ranger, triton. SUV are 40% of sales The only cars that sell as well as trucks and suvs are the corolla, mazda3 and hyundai i30. Ford small cars don't sell well here compared to them.
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Fo3 posted:Never. Fuel is more expensive in Australia and you know what are top 3 selling vehicles are? Trucks. hilux, ranger, triton. Hiluxes hold some value amazingly even though you just know they are flogged daily.
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Hey look I bought a stupid dumb car with 20 mpg instead of the more expensive really stupid dumb car that gets 17 mpg so I was thinking about the environment ok!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl8mQhxhE_Q But seriously, are people saying that Ford (or any other company) should continue to produce a low-margin product that isn't selling instead of focusing on the product the market wants? As others have noted, Ford continues to produce cars elsewhere in the world. If there's another oil shock they're able to bring in smaller, lighter and more fuel efficient vehicles as and when the market for such a vehicle justifies the expense. Personally, I can't wait for people to work out that the SUV is the new minivan. vvv: We are making GBS threads in the nest at a truly impressive pace. IPCRESS fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Apr 27, 2018 |
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Apr 27, 2018 12:50
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We really don't deserve this planet.
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Apr 27, 2018 13:04
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Cheer up, I'm sure if ford did the best ever smart phone integration/infotainment system then they might gain some ground in the smaller car market. After all that's the main thing that seems to count with cars these days. Of course they have the huge hurdle of sucky dealers that ford are known for here, so they may have to improve that too, as well as the near zero marketing they do on lower profit cars.
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I bought a new Camaro (2.0 4cyl turbo) last week and it's an awesome car, save for one stupid feature I don't understand. From the time between shutting off my car and locking the doors the "parking lights" are illuminated. What are parking lights? Oh those would be the reverse lights. So I park in a parking spot and turn off my car. The lights are tricking people into thinking I'm leaving my spot so they camp out and wait for my spot, only for me to eventually leave my car and walk away. Why change what a specific light means, GM?
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Apr 27, 2018 13:59
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Fo3 posted:Never. Fuel is more expensive in Australia and you know what are top 3 selling vehicles are? Trucks. hilux, ranger, triton. To be fair, those top 3 are ONLY avaliable in turbo diesel, and relatively small turbo diesels too- 2.8L for the Hilux, 3.2L for the Ranger, 2.4L for the triton and all average below 10L/100. We dont get the big fuel guzzling trucks, which is one of the reasons they're so popular.
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GutBomb posted:I bought a new Camaro (2.0 4cyl turbo) last week and it's an awesome car, save for one stupid feature I don't understand. From the time between shutting off my car and locking the doors the "parking lights" are illuminated. What are parking lights? Oh those would be the reverse lights. So I park in a parking spot and turn off my car. The lights are tricking people into thinking I'm leaving my spot so they camp out and wait for my spot, only for me to eventually leave my car and walk away. Their trucks have done this for years. Being a guy who predominantly drives cars smaller than an American football field, it is super unnerving to see a Silverado suddenly flash its reverse lights at you as you drive past it. I think they call it like "perimeter lighting" or some poo poo and you can turn it off in some layer of their menu system. They should just mount a PA system to the car that yells HERE COMES A SPECIAL BOY. Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Apr 27, 2018 |
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Ferremit posted:To be fair, those top 3 are ONLY avaliable in turbo diesel, and relatively small turbo diesels too- 2.8L for the Hilux, 3.2L for the Ranger, 2.4L for the triton and all average below 10L/100. We dont get the big fuel guzzling trucks, which is one of the reasons they're so popular. True, but obviously people want the biggest vehicle they can afford to run is the point. Other thing is people want utility (towing boats, trailers for their lawn mowing business or be garbage people producing a lot of garbage that needs to be taken to the dump), and another thing is commercial enterprises buy more new vehicles than the average personal use buyer. Those two things affect what the USA market sells most of and what is most profitable as well. Fo3 fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Apr 27, 2018 |
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Their trucks have done this for years. Being a guy who predominantly drives cars smaller than an American football field, it is super unnerving to see a Silverado suddenly flash its reverse lights at you as you drive past it. Other GM cars did it, too. My mom's Bonneville did it and I see it all the time in Impalas in parking lots. The reverse lights will come on when you unlock it via the fob, as well. Really stupid.
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Apr 27, 2018 14:34
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GutBomb posted:I bought a new Camaro (2.0 4cyl turbo) last week and it's an awesome car, save for one stupid feature I don't understand. From the time between shutting off my car and locking the doors the "parking lights" are illuminated. What are parking lights? Oh those would be the reverse lights. So I park in a parking spot and turn off my car. The lights are tricking people into thinking I'm leaving my spot so they camp out and wait for my spot, only for me to eventually leave my car and walk away. I loving hate this. There is no parking lot etiquette with pedestrians walking behind cars as you're backing out and then when you have cars with their reverse lights on for no loving reason, you can't tell if they just locked/unlocked their doors, or if they decided to shift into reverse and then look at their phone for five minutes, or if they are actually backing up now.
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:Other GM cars did it, too. My mom's Bonneville did it and I see it all the time in Impalas in parking lots. The reverse lights will come on when you unlock it via the fob, as well. Really stupid. It was great for trolling people at the mall during Christmas though.
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Apr 27, 2018 15:24
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Mr-Spain posted:It was great for trolling people at the mall during Christmas though. That seems like a great way to get bludgeoned to death with this year's hottest gift.
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Cacafuego posted:My dad had an early 90s manual civic that he pulled some fuse or relay from every time he parked it. He left the doors unlocked though. I think they found it abandoned a block or 2 down the street at least twice from random theft attempts. I want to build a car where the key is the main power cutoff, and the ignition is a button, like NASCAR. Or gently caress it, make a Cup car street legal with a key for the big red master power switch. Can you fit the lights from a real Fusion into the NASCAR thing with the same name? Windshield wipers are handled, that's an option for road-course cars (which you'd obv be using as a base for a streetable version, because you might want to turn right.) Would it be possible to title said car in Texas, and if so, would the manufacturer be listed as Ford or Stewart-Haas?
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Bad Angus! Bad!
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Chillbro Baggins posted:I want to build a car where the key is the main power cutoff, and the ignition is a button, like NASCAR. Like an S2000?
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Finger Prince posted:Like an S2000? Nissan Sentras have a push-button start as well. Putting them on an economy car somehow destroys the mystique a little bit.
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Chillbro Baggins posted:I want to build a car where the key is the main power cutoff, and the ignition is a button, like NASCAR. Your best option would be to go the Roadkill Nascarlo route, and drop a old body onto the frame and title it under the donor car's vin. Definitely not 100% legal, but not terribly hard to get away with in a lot of places. Just in case someone in AI missed this episode... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUefSKCjP8w
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GutBomb posted:I bought a new Camaro (2.0 4cyl turbo) Holy poo poo I had no idea this was a thing. I don't give a rat's rear end about the Camaro, but that means in a few years I'll have another decent RWD donor engine for my AE86, or one of my RX-7 shells (sorry RADL). 275HP! 295 lb.ft. 0-60 in 5.7s in the porker it comes in. Most other 4-bangers have to be adapter from FWD, meaning you have to figure out the transmission, accessory issues, piping issues... Basically, my choices for modern engines were the Mustang Ecoboost, S2000, Tacoma, and I guess some BMWs (no thanks), if I wanted to stick with a 4 cylinder. A few V6s would be fun, but if you're going there, the 1UZ/2UZ fit. More or less. I welcome another turbo-4 RWD option.
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slurry_curry posted:Your best option would be to go the Roadkill Nascarlo route, and drop a old body onto the frame and title it under the donor car's vin. Definitely not 100% legal, but not terribly hard to get away with in a lot of places. Yeah, but I was thinking of one-upping Nascarlo and putting lights on a real Cup car. Somebody got a sprint car titled as a Model A with the only Model A part being the horn, so clearly it can be done.
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IPCRESS posted:But seriously, are people saying that Ford (or any other company) should continue to produce a low-margin product that isn't selling instead of focusing on the product the market wants?
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Chillbro Baggins posted:Yeah, but I was thinking of one-upping Nascarlo and putting lights on a real Cup car. Somebody got a sprint car titled as a Model A with the only Model A part being the horn, so clearly it can be done. Yea, it really depends on where you live honestly. In Washington, as long as you live outside the greater Seattle area, they don't have any type of inspection at all. Show up with a title and you can walk out with plates. Hell even in Seattle, if its 25 years old, you can do the same thing. Of course thats just to get the plates, piss off the wrong cop and your car is going into impound.
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Darchangel posted:Holy poo poo I had no idea this was a thing. It's a great engine and a great car. I didn't know it existed either until the day before I bought it. It's everything I liked about the 86/BRZ plus comfort and power.
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Darchangel posted:Holy poo poo I had no idea this was a thing. GM sells them as crate engines (the LTG) Not saying you would or should but thats going to be the price ceiling for one i think.
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 loving lovely UK roads, that’s £250 I didn’t want to have to spend this month.
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£250? What is it, runflat on a BMW?
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cakesmith handyman posted:£250? What is it, runflat on a BMW? Note the crack in the wheel.
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Darchangel posted:Holy poo poo I had no idea this was a thing. Don't bother with the F20/F22 out of the S2000, they are expensive as gently caress used, have nothing in the low-midrange, are not cheap to make more than 210-220whp, and more parts are becoming NLA every year. Go with a stock K24, or a K24 with a K20 head. You'll make more power and torque everywhere for a third of the price. You can also look at the Duratec or turbo Ecotecs. BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Apr 28, 2018 |
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Darchangel posted:Holy poo poo I had no idea this was a thing. Everything comes with a turbo 4 now to placate China. Most VAG cars are turbo 4s, now base model infiniti and lexus and Hyundai/Genesis are also 2.0Ts too even the RWD ones.
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Throatwarbler posted:to placate China What?
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Maker Of Shoes posted:What? Tax is based on displacement, not power, and it's an extremely large market.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Note the crack in the wheel. Ooh, I thought that was just dirt. Poor luck.
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xzzy posted:Apparently Ford is killing off all sales of "cars" in the US to focus on crossovers, suv's, and trucks. Ford Mustang Company They're doing it really aggressively too, the Focus stops production NEXT MONTH
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Deteriorata posted:The Ford F-series is the top selling vehicle in the country, by a rather wide margin. It's almost as much as the next two combined. http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2018/0...vehicle-ranked/ The United States of SUVs and Trucks. 
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CommieGIR posted:We really don't deserve this planet.
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Zaphod42 posted:Ford Mustang Company Just for NA though. They just showed the brand new Focus and Fiesta that the rest of the world is getting.
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Deteriorata posted:The Ford F-series is the top selling vehicle in the country, by a rather wide margin. It's almost as much as the next two combined. http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2018/0...vehicle-ranked/ Actually, if you scroll down on the page you posted, in the list that aggregrates the car companies, not the brands, General motors is outselling Fomoco by a little over 20% ytd. While chevy may make up the bulk of gm sales in the US gmc and buick sell a decent amount of cars as well.
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Rhyno posted:Just for NA though. They just showed the brand new Focus and Fiesta that the rest of the world is getting. Yeah but some of us poor saps live in NA
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cakesmith handyman posted:Ooh, I thought that was just dirt. Poor luck. No luckily that is just dirt. There’s more dirt and brake dust inside the spokes so when it gets wet it runs down like that. It’s the same with all the wheels when they get dirty. The problem is the bulge and split in the sidewall, and there’s another bulge elsewhere in the same tyre. The fronts are worn to the level that I can’t ideally just replace the one tyre, so that’s two runflats I’m having fitted this morning.
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah but some of us poor saps live in NA Maybe Mazda will make new performance variants?
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