Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

If for whatever reason the neoprene doesn't lay flat enough you could also get a 6'x4' piece of plywood and lay it on top of the tables. Personally I like the multiple table route unless you're looking for a more permanent solution.

Duct Tape posted:

Dammit. Working on my second Start Collecting Skitarii box, and I realized that when I dropped some bits, I didn't pick up my Skitarii's Plasma Cavalier's clip. Now it's lost to the recesses of my carpet somewhere, never to be found. Not really a necessary part, but I'll know that it's missing.

On the other hand, I finished up lacquering all the units from the first box! I magnetized all their heads, Dominus's weapons, both of the alpha's arms, and the weapons on the Dunecrawler so I can swap them out with any of the 4 in the box.

Pay no attention to my laughably bad lightbox.

Duct Tape posted:

Karl Rove posted:

If a Grey Knights Brotherhood Champion/Castellan Crowe is killed, can I use the Only In Death Does Duty End stratagem at the same time as their Heroic Sacrifice ability triggers to attack twice?

MasterSlowPoke posted:

SRM posted:

Their scheme is fly as hell, their special characters have great models, their conversion kit is still solid 13 years later, their tactic means even deep striking assaulters are likely to work, they can straight up ignore a psychic power on a 4+ for 1cp, they can rule that sweet 4th edition meta with minmax lasplas squads, and the Emperor's Champion is an incredible character killer. They're by no means the best Marine chapter tactics out there, as Marines are pretty weak in assault, but it comes in handy. Good relic too.

I painted 4000 points of Templars in a year ama

Corrode posted:

8 games in a row with DE now and I haven't lost yet. I played Guard again today with a Dark Angels bomb and Custodes bike captain, and won 19-5 without bothering to count up end-game points. I have three more practice games, against Guard/DA/Custodes (but a different player), Nurgle Daemons, and Dark Angels again. I probably have time to play 2 more after that.

My betting is that I end up going 13-0 on practice games then instantly stacking it at LGT itself.

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Below is the current breakdown of what armies are winning events. The list combines all the top lists for 8th edition 2017 ITC season events only, taking only the top three from each Major or GT.

27 Astra Militarum
27 Ynnari
23 Chaos Space Marines
20 Ultramarines
16 Daemons
11 Tyranids
8 Orks
6 T’au Empire
6 Death Guard
4 Sisters of Battle
4 Space Marines
5 Grey Knights
4 Eldar
4 Blood Angels
4 Genestealer Cults
3 Officio Assassinorum
3 Adeptus Mechanicus
2 Imperial Knights
2 Renegade Knights
1 Space Wolves
1 Adeptus Custodes
1 Dark Angels

One_Wing posted:

Have you played against nids or bike spam custodes (at 2k) at all? They’re basically the only things that ever give my Eldar serious pause (outside of pre-faq abusive tournament lists), and i wonder if its the same for DE.

Second question - having played that many games, do you feel like maybe they did push the power level too far? I know I was very “the sky is falling” about the codex, but between the stuff you’ve been posting and other sources I read I’ve seen almost no reports of Dark Eldar losing in the hands of a capable player. Every time I try totting up lists for them it feels like you get about 10% more units than you reasonably should (admittedly some pre-nerf craftworld lists felt like that too).

Thundercloud posted:

Gaming table chat.

Well I now have a dedicated play space/youtube studio. I've got shelving up, and will be transferring my old desk.

But I need a gaming table that's nice and sturdy enough for filming on and playing on. Preferably 6 by 4. Are there any recommendations?

My wife has also said she lacks faith in my ability to build one from scratch, and I find her lack of faith disturbing.

OhDearGodNo posted:

When using 3x scout squads as a battalion troop tax, what’s the best way to equip them to be effective without costing too much?

I was thinking of having them snipe squads, sitting back for deep strike protection but able to harass at times.

Corrode posted:

8 games in a row with DE now and I haven't lost yet. I played Guard again today with a Dark Angels bomb and Custodes bike captain, and won 19-5 without bothering to count up end-game points. I have three more practice games, against Guard/DA/Custodes (but a different player), Nurgle Daemons, and Dark Angels again. I probably have time to play 2 more after that.

My betting is that I end up going 13-0 on practice games then instantly stacking it at LGT itself.

Karl Rove posted:

If a Grey Knights Brotherhood Champion/Castellan Crowe is killed, can I use the Only In Death Does Duty End stratagem at the same time as their Heroic Sacrifice ability triggers to attack twice?

Bombogenesis posted:

No because nobody actually plays Grey Knights. Dakka told me they all quit.

Artum posted:

Giving them sniper rifles kind of misses the idea of them being cheap though at 75 points for a squad.

For non-vampire marines you want bolters or shotguns really.

OhDearGodNo posted:

they’ll be for my white scars, I used to think being under 2 CP was fine for an outrider detachment, but with the BN increase I’ll need to pay the tax.

Guess for now I’ll use them minimized just to hold objectives or something. Putting them in a rhino just adds too much.

I had also wanted all my foot units to be Primaris, which is fine but with the Repulsor being the only transport it doesn’t fall into the WS mantra to have Intercessor squads footslogging.

Pendent posted:

Giving everyone assault bolters seems like it could be pretty good with White Scars. You’d have Intercessors zooming around the table with 11-12” of average movement so there really wouldn’t be a ton of need for transports.

OhDearGodNo posted:

How would I get 11-12” average movement for Intercessors? I might be having a stupid attack here...

One_Wing posted:

Have you played against nids or bike spam custodes (at 2k) at all? They’re basically the only things that ever give my Eldar serious pause (outside of pre-faq abusive tournament lists), and i wonder if its the same for DE.

Second question - having played that many games, do you feel like maybe they did push the power level too far? I know I was very “the sky is falling” about the codex, but between the stuff you’ve been posting and other sources I read I’ve seen almost no reports of Dark Eldar losing in the hands of a capable player. Every time I try totting up lists for them it feels like you get about 10% more units than you reasonably should (admittedly some pre-nerf craftworld lists felt like that too).

TheBigAristotle posted:

My Imperial Fists beat 1250 of Dark Eldar today, but only because objectives.

Toughness 3 seems like a small price to pay for all the FNPs and mortal wounding. Combine that with the character that heals when allies die nearby, and it makes for a very frustrating opponent

Corrode posted:

word

Lovely Joe Stalin posted:

Rangers are good in groups of 5 and easier to clean up. Vanguard are cooler and better as troops who're going to all the cool parties, but take a bit more clean up to get rid of the mould lines on the ridges of their guns.

Pendent posted:

If we're on table chat has anyone tried this product? https://firmerterra.com/

The portability aspect would be really nice for me since I'd be setting it up in our spare bedroom. It's just a bit more expensive than I'd like but seems like it would do a really good job once I throw a FAT mat on the top or something.

SRM posted:

Their scheme is fly as hell, their special characters have great models, their conversion kit is still solid 13 years later, their tactic means even deep striking assaulters are likely to work, they can straight up ignore a psychic power on a 4+ for 1cp, they can rule that sweet 4th edition meta with minmax lasplas squads, and the Emperor's Champion is an incredible character killer. They're by no means the best Marine chapter tactics out there, as Marines are pretty weak in assault, but it comes in handy. Good relic too.

I painted 4000 points of Templars in a year ama

One_Wing posted:

Yeah, ok thats fair - guard gunlines and space marines are relatively easy prey for any flavour of Eldar, and Dark Eldar have the advantage against Custodes that they’re not reliant on keeping psychic force multipliers alive to get wounds through from small arms fire. I did notice that there were a lot of guard gunlines about at BIG.

Hopefully the LGT will give some flavour of how it rolls against nids, craftworlds or Tau, because i think they’re the interesting matchups.

Corrode posted:

Red Grief Outrider
1x Succubus, Blood Glaive, Hyper-Swift Reflexes trait (-2 CP for trait/relic)
2x 3 Reaver Jetbikes
1x 20 Hellions, phantasm grenade launcher

10 CP down to 8.

JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:

Why is this the case?

I assumed shooty horde + big guns that don't need LOS would be the ideal counter to Eldar/Dark Eldar.


How have the reavers treated you? I feel like they may be underrated MVPs. Being able to charge on T1 and prevent an enemy unit from shooting is hecking real good.

One_Wing posted:

Basically, wave serpents are tough enough and DE skimmer transports numerous enough that, unless they get the first turn and an outstanding round of shooting, its very difficult for the Guard to stop the Aeldari vehicles getting amongst their tanks, repeatedly charging them and stopping them from shooting. At that point, it basically becomes academic in the Aeldari’s favour, and the guard army will be quickly dismantled. The Aeldari player will almost always have the +1 to go first in the matchup as well, so ~70% chance of first turn.

On top of that, both flavours of Eldar have multiple ways of stacking -1 to hit on key vehicles, which is at its best against armies with BS4+ alpha units like guard and tau, and both pack AP-4 anti tank weapons, which are great against guard because their vehicles lack invulns or FNPs like tough targets in some other powerful armies tend to have.

Neurolimal posted:

I'm not too knowledgeable on the Citadel paint ecosystem, but speaking as someone who's regularly working with metallic acrylic, enamel and lacquer paints Vallejo Metal Color is easily the nicest & shiniest acrylic metallics I've seen, and they sell a pretty reasonable pack of all of them.

JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:

That's good info, thank you. Why does the first turn favor eldar? Do they have a stratagem where they get +1 to the roll?

JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:

That's good info, thank you. Why does the first turn favor eldar? Do they have a stratagem where they get +1 to the roll?

Thundercloud posted:

Vallejo Model Air Silver is beautiful. It's the basis for my Warriors of Iron I've shown on here a couple of times. It would make a great foundation for silver necrons.

gender illusionist posted:

Thanks, I'll go for that - I take it the 'air' line are just pre thinned for airbrush but work fine for standard use?