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MrSargent posted:Is there a resource somewhere that would be helpful for cluing me in on some of the stuff I should be keeping an eye out for sampling? I don't mind getting stuff that has already been sampled in popular tracks, in fact I really like collecting those pieces of hip-hop history. I feel like I have touched on a lot of the well-known ones but I know I there is a ton I don't know. I watch a lot of Crate Diggers episodes and pick up on things from those and visit whosampled to look up my favorite tracks. If there are other resources for this kinda thing, please let me know! WhoSampled.com is a useful site, you’ll enjoy clicking around there. There was a mini documentary about People Under The Stairs, I think it was on a bonus disc on one of their albums, you’d probably like too. Showed them digging for vinyl, then chopping it up on their MPC. Struggling to find it because I don’t remember what it was called 
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MrSargent posted:I don't mind getting stuff that has already been sampled in popular tracks, in fact I really like collecting those pieces of hip-hop history. I feel like I have touched on a lot of the well-known ones but I know I there is a ton I don't know. I know a bunch of people (me kind of included, back in highschool) who were/are basically trainspotters for samples and _owning_ the sampled records was the point. Eventually you get over the sampling bit because you've just become a soul/funk/jazz collector. The lovely part is you end up with a bunch of records that outside of the sample, it's actually pretty lovely. Some are amazing on their own (ex, Synthetic Substitution) or are just ehhhh after the head nod bit (Impeach the President is actually pretty boring). I probably still have ~300+ soul/funk 45s but I don't have many 1-tracker LPs anymore. Plus WHO sampled it make weird rareified records that have comparative songs that are (arguably) better for cheaper. The Charmels - As Long As... is actually eh after the RZA bit but Karen Smalls - To Get You... hits the same spot for me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBcOgTDtb1c Same w/ Wendy Rene and The Diamondettes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6l3g42QAxE But those are "genre" 45s because they never got flipped by Pete Rock. Once you get out of "golden age" samples and into shadow/alchemist/jake one/rocc/etc it veers off pretyt heavily, though. There are a bunch of immediately recognizable breaks that are gettable for cheap, though, it's not they're all unobtainium or something. Off the top of my head: JB - The Grunt JB - Funky Drummer Syl Johnson - Different Strokes Winstons - Amen Brother Bob & Earl - Harlem Shuffle Lyn Collins - Think The Emotions - Blind Alley Long story short, buy soul 45s. Also, Seconhand Sureshots is a decent short about sampling and it's got Ras G in it: https://vimeo.com/24183764
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MrSargent posted:If there are other resources for this kinda thing, please let me know! if you've never seen it you might like this series of videos where they blindfold producers and they have to make a beat from what they pick. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce8r9RfK1wk
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Get a job at this gas station and do both. https://youtu.be/b6ew11g0znU
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wa27 posted:I would like to sell off some of my more valuable records that I don't care much about, but selling records online scares me. Just the whole grading and shipping process seems like a pain, and then having to deal with someone receiving a record and saying it skips when they play it. i'm pretty sure discogs lets you set a threshold on buyers, so you can set it to only allow buyers with 90%+ or 100% positive feedback which is nice. whenever i sell on discogs i just put an imgur album link in the description with detailed photos
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MrSargent posted:Appreciate the feedback. I think for now I'm just going to keep collecting the way I have been, by digging through collections on the floors of antique/thrift stores. Is there a resource somewhere that would be helpful for cluing me in on some of the stuff I should be keeping an eye out for sampling? I don't mind getting stuff that has already been sampled in popular tracks, in fact I really like collecting those pieces of hip-hop history. I feel like I have touched on a lot of the well-known ones but I know I there is a ton I don't know. I watch a lot of Crate Diggers episodes and pick up on things from those and visit whosampled to look up my favorite tracks. If there are other resources for this kinda thing, please let me know! I don't really know much about where you can get ideas for samples, but if you're getting into collecting then Discogs is essential.
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Had to go check my Zep. II is just a regular copy but here's my hot stamper HoH. Do I need to NWS this? https://imgur.com/p1qWfFc  It's totally signed too! Signed by someone... And JehovahsWetness put it pretty well. A lot of those samples could just be one song on an album or even worse just a snippet of a song... I know its probably not "cool" but there are a ton of good Breaks records out there that stand alone as just really good compilation albums. I bought the Blue Break Beats albums https://www.discogs.com/Various-Blue-Break-Beats/release/44125 when amazon was clearing them out. I dig em. Or just buy funk and soul records, they usually have the killer breaks built right in. I think it was a few pages back but to add the the pretty wax discussion The Books, Lemon Of Pink album that VMP put out is really striking. The label and the colored vinyl are just done perfectly in my opinion. I prefer just plain black records but this one is nice to look at. 
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JehovahsWetness posted:edit, here's some records for content
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JehovahsWetness posted:edit, here's some records for content araca azul is such a mess, I wish I managed to like it more
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The Abyssinians kick rear end. Also fun update on the FLORAL SHOPPE fiasco. The Bandcamp page for it is now gone and I said gently caress it and filed a dispute with Paypal. James Ferraro managed to ship me a cassette I bought and OESB can't even manage this 
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JehovahsWetness posted:I know a bunch of people (me kind of included, back in highschool) who were/are basically trainspotters for samples and _owning_ the sampled records was the point. Eventually you get over the sampling bit because you've just become a soul/funk/jazz collector. The lovely part is you end up with a bunch of records that outside of the sample, it's actually pretty lovely. Some are amazing on their own (ex, Synthetic Substitution) or are just ehhhh after the head nod bit (Impeach the President is actually pretty boring). I probably still have ~300+ soul/funk 45s but I don't have many 1-tracker LPs anymore. Thank you so much for this response, it really helped quite a bit. And its funny you mention Soul 45s because I just got into contact with a dealer who is trying to unload thousands of 60s-70s 45s, a large portion of which is soul / funk. He is selling them for 25 cents/each but will give me an even bigger discount if I buy in bulk. This sounds like it will be perfect for adding some gems to my collection. I am meeting up with him tomorrow morning and will report back tomorrow!
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Mike_V posted:The Abyssinians kick rear end. mike what if james ferraro is listening to your floral shoppe right now
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The 311 Lifestyle posted:mike what if james ferraro is listening to your floral shoppe right now i would love that and all would be forgiven.
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Even though I paid with PayPal (I have the ID for the transaction) it's not appearing in my shopping history, so I can't even file for a refund from them. Yay.
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Mike_V posted:Also fun update on the FLORAL SHOPPE fiasco. The Bandcamp page for it is now gone and I said gently caress it and filed a dispute with Paypal. James Ferraro managed to ship me a cassette I bought and OESB can't even manage this He sold some more copies on a lovely Angelfire page last week too. I already got my Bandcamp refund but I took another gamble and am gonna give him a month to ship it before I file another claim. Bloodplay it again fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Apr 29, 2018 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3V95uZMv70  Long-time forums members will recognize this. PayPal being PayPal. Considering that orders were still going out as of early March... have faith, I guess. Sorry for your troubles
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Got a copy of the new Beach House album 2 weeks early. My local record store had a listening party last night for the new album, and raffled off a copy which I won.   It's a great album. Much more cohesive than Depression Cherry/Thank Your Lucky Stars.
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MrSargent posted:Loving the Dilla and Kaytranada albums, I’m gonna hit up my local record store to see if they have those, fingers crossed! Did you manage to grab them? I finally listened to Ruff Draft tonight and was shocked at how different the mixes sound compared to the old Stones Throw release. It now truly does have that “straight from the motherfucking cassette” feel to it.
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Ballz posted:Did you manage to grab them? I finally listened to Ruff Draft tonight and was shocked at how different the mixes sound compared to the old Stones Throw release. It now truly does have that “straight from the motherfucking cassette” feel to it. Couldn’t find the Kaytranada but I got Ruff Draft and was loving stoked. Listened to it the other night and was really digging it. Also got Welcome 2 Detroit in the mail and that was is incredible as well. My Dilla collection is growing, haha.
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LooksLikeABabyRat posted:Got a copy of the new Beach House album 2 weeks early. My local record store had a listening party last night for the new album, and raffled off a copy which I won.
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LooksLikeABabyRat posted:Got a copy of the new Beach House album 2 weeks early. My local record store had a listening party last night for the new album, and raffled off a copy which I won. Bull City Records?
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LooksLikeABabyRat posted:It’s just a white kallax from ikea.
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pwn posted:Considering that orders were still going out as of early March... have faith, I guess. Sorry for your troubles I think it started off legit, they then ran into problems, and now they’re just gonna try walk away from it. They’ve dealt with every issue in the worst way possible, continually trying to keep selling new copies (and shipping some to those people despite other people waiting months). Hopefully lessons are learnt and nobody ever gives the rights for highly sought after records to people with no proven track record ever again.
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Asnorban posted:Bull City Records? Nope. 1-2-3-4 Go! Records in Oakland.
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LooksLikeABabyRat posted:Nope. 1-2-3-4 Go! Records in Oakland. What’s up neighbor! I’m just outside Sacramento.
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pwn posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3V95uZMv70 We all got like 4 of these emails over the course of 5 months. Taking down the Bandcamp page pretty much says we're not getting it and I'm not gonna order from OESB again.
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I have returned from one of the coolest record-buying experiences of my life. I went to this guy's house who was selling a ton of 60s-80s 45's. When I got there, he started bringing out box after box of records for us to dig through and even put together a box of LP's that he thought I would like. The whole collection was filled with gems from tons of Motown stuff, James Brown, Sly Stone, Stevie Wonder, and so much more. All in all there were about 800 45's and 20Lps. He chatted with us about music and how he loves collecting, we shared stories about producing and he told my buddy and I to keep in touch to talk about music and share what we end up making out of the records. I walked away with the entire collection for $100. I am just starting to go through it at home now but there is some amazing stuff in here.
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Has anyone here gotten vinyl produced? I'm thinking about a small run for my band's album and kind of wondering where to go. The going rate seems to be a run of 500-1000 at $1-3 per item and that's fine but I'm not sure which company to use. Ideally it'd be someone in the LA area or at least southern California so I could pick up the run myself. Any recommendations?
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MrSargent posted:I have returned from one of the coolest record-buying experiences of my life. I went to this guy's house who was selling a ton of 60s-80s 45's. When I got there, he started bringing out box after box of records for us to dig through and even put together a box of LP's that he thought I would like. The whole collection was filled with gems from tons of Motown stuff, James Brown, Sly Stone, Stevie Wonder, and so much more. All in all there were about 800 45's and 20Lps. He chatted with us about music and how he loves collecting, we shared stories about producing and he told my buddy and I to keep in touch to talk about music and share what we end up making out of the records. I walked away with the entire collection for $100. I am just starting to go through it at home now but there is some amazing stuff in here. I suppose you could have done much worse. If you still want to sell that stuff you could make money here, but it's probably going to be a slow drip unless you have some more valuable stuff.
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MrSargent posted:I have returned from one of the coolest record-buying experiences of my life. I went to this guy's house who was selling a ton of 60s-80s 45's. When I got there, he started bringing out box after box of records for us to dig through and even put together a box of LP's that he thought I would like. The whole collection was filled with gems from tons of Motown stuff, James Brown, Sly Stone, Stevie Wonder, and so much more. All in all there were about 800 45's and 20Lps. He chatted with us about music and how he loves collecting, we shared stories about producing and he told my buddy and I to keep in touch to talk about music and share what we end up making out of the records. I walked away with the entire collection for $100. I am just starting to go through it at home now but there is some amazing stuff in here. Nice pull, hopefully there's some good stuff in there, only labels I can recognize are arista and a later gordy? The big thing to remember about 70s and earlier 45s is the good stuff is *the poo poo you don't recognize*. The production of 45s seriously outstripped LPs for a long time and the barrier to entry was so low that a TON of regional / private / sub-labels existed that really focused on 45s. (Soul, funk, garage exist as mostly as 45s, it was cheap and you really only need two good songs, or one song and a cover if you were a garage band.) Getting deep into 45s is super rewarding because it's easier to make finds "in the wild" and most of the general public kind of ignore them. Record genre collecting ends up in the margins of the sound, and if you're interested in soul and funk then 45s are where you're going to end up. Mid-to-late 70s had a big drop-off for 45 production since major labels only continued to press them for singles as they became more album-focused and independent/regional record labels in the US just kind of withered off. If you want an account on https://gripsweat.com to look up stuff you don't know for value or just listen to soundclips from poo poo like "rare (soul|funk)" searches then send me a PM and make a free account for you. edit: Also, since the barrier to releasing a 45 was so low, there's probably a chance some cool poo poo come out of your home-town/area and can be interesting to dig into. I'm from bum-gently caress East TN and a couple of my all-time favorite deep soul tunes were from my home town. (Both of which got bootlegged on west-coast latino lowrider oldies comps, weirdly enough.) Kenny Springs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTQbqwAGIcw Phil Kelley: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEQthIIjVPI JehovahsWetness fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Apr 29, 2018 |
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Has anyone here gotten vinyl produced? I'm thinking about a small run for my band's album and kind of wondering where to go. The going rate seems to be a run of 500-1000 at $1-3 per item and that's fine but I'm not sure which company to use. Ideally it'd be someone in the LA area or at least southern California so I could pick up the run myself. I've done it multiple times and in so many different configurations to try and stay on a tight budget. What's the saying... speed, quality, cost: pick two? Anyway, the most recent project was a 12" that I personally oversaw each step (lacquer cutting, plating, pressing, jacket/label design) and I think came in pretty low budget but with spectacular results. The kicker is that it took nearly 18 months. Or you could go with a place like Pirates Press where you put down $2500 and six months later 500 neatly shrinkwrapped records show up at your door. The thing is, the places that do everything in house tend to do the best jobs. I wouldn't prioritize location of the plant (I've done that as well and the fact that I could pick up the records myself made it no easier when they pressed all 500 in *not* the color I had ordered and paid extra for). Without taking up too much more air in this thread, I'd say go with a full-service place like Pirates, especially for your first record. I've worked the numbers so many times, you really can't do a run without spending at least $1700-1800, and it's worth the extra few hundred dollars to tie in all the printing and whatnot.
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1000 umbrellas posted:I've done it multiple times and in so many different configurations to try and stay on a tight budget. What's the saying... speed, quality, cost: pick two? Anyway, the most recent project was a 12" that I personally oversaw each step (lacquer cutting, plating, pressing, jacket/label design) and I think came in pretty low budget but with spectacular results. The kicker is that it took nearly 18 months. Or you could go with a place like Pirates Press where you put down $2500 and six months later 500 neatly shrinkwrapped records show up at your door. The thing is, the places that do everything in house tend to do the best jobs. I wouldn't prioritize location of the plant (I've done that as well and the fact that I could pick up the records myself made it no easier when they pressed all 500 in *not* the color I had ordered and paid extra for). This is my experience as well. You're basically gonna lose money in man hours and effort spent trying to get different aspects done in different locations. Just spend more and get it all done in one fell swoop. Just make sure to get it mastered if you don't want it to sound hella underwhelming. And yes, that's gonna cost you a pretty penny.
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JehovahsWetness posted:Nice pull, hopefully there's some good stuff in there, only labels I can recognize are arista and a later gordy? The big thing to remember about 70s and earlier 45s is the good stuff is *the poo poo you don't recognize*. The production of 45s seriously outstripped LPs for a long time and the barrier to entry was so low that a TON of regional / private / sub-labels existed that really focused on 45s. (Soul, funk, garage exist as mostly as 45s, it was cheap and you really only need two good songs, or one song and a cover if you were a garage band.) Getting deep into 45s is super rewarding because it's easier to make finds "in the wild" and most of the general public kind of ignore them. Record genre collecting ends up in the margins of the sound, and if you're interested in soul and funk then 45s are where you're going to end up. Mid-to-late 70s had a big drop-off for 45 production since major labels only continued to press them for singles as they became more album-focused and independent/regional record labels in the US just kind of withered off. That would be awesome for you to set up an account on gripsweat for me, sending you a PM. I went through all of the records and there is a ton of poo poo I don't even recognize, which I suppose is a good thing. Some of them are a little beat up, but most of the ones I listened to played well and with a little cleaning, I am sure they would be much better. I tried looking back a few pages because I know people have asked before, but what cleaning system should I purchase for these records? I don't mind spending a little bit more for something that is more automated, considering I need to clean about 800 45's, I would rather not do them manually.
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Quick update. I grabbed some 45's out of a stack I didn't recognize and started looking them up. Was pretty stoked to find about 5-6 Northern Soul 45's in the first 10 or so that I went through. Those seem to sell for some decent money.
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