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Soviet Commubot posted:Are you saying you think they should be lenient or strict? I don't know about the other two countries but France's gun laws aren't exactly super strict from a non-American perspective. Strict. In the Netherlands the law is quite similar to how the poster above you described Croatia. I'd consider Finland and Switzerland 'moderate' because it's easy enough to get a gun there so that many many people got one for personal purposes (often hunting), however there's still regulations such as needing to store it safely so that it cannot be accidentally triggered, and the USA and other countries with gun stores where you can buy guns without a license or the license doesn't take any effort to get 'lenient'. That means that no European countries would be lenient, but possibly some South American ones are? I'm not sure about gun laws there.
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A friend of mine got her gun license in Canada (because her fiance likes to go to the hunting range) and it was fairly easy. She said she had to do a background check, a one-or-two day class (I can't remember) in which they watched videos about safety tips like not pointing your gun at yourself and pressing the trigger, then gave her a test to do and bam, license.
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Canadian gun laws are fairly strict. Guns are split into prohibited, restricted, and non-restricted. Restricted guns require a separate license and can only be fired on certified ranges, not on Crown land. Prohibited guns can basically not be fired anywhere and you can't buy them, you have to come into possession in some kind of roundabout way like inheritance. You can also only take your restricted guns to the range and back with an Authorization to Transport. Concealed carry is technically legal with a permit, but in order to get one you need proof that the police can't protect you and something like three provable unsuccessful attempts on your life, which is why there's about a dozen of them out there. Also there's stuff like 5 round magazine restrictions for centerfire rifles and banning anything that uses the AK action (aside from Valmets). The laws are much more strict than American ones.
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Kamrat posted:Found some interesting maps when checking out gun laws/deaths on the internet and though I'd share some of them here. "Measures allowing guns in bars" (!). Good grief. Alcohol + guns is definitely a worrying combination.
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I think the Philippines and Indonesia are the most offensive parts of that map
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Man they just loving totally gave up on even -trying- once they got to Southeast Asia, didn’t they? Myanmar’s government would sure love if that map was remotely accurate. Also I thought it was "native language spoken by majority" but then why the hell is East Timor Portuguese? And if it is "common language understood and spoken by people in the streets" then China is ridiculously wrong.
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Is it languages or ethnicity? I figure Russian would be more ubiquitous in country. In either case aren't there like scores/hundreds of languages and ethnicities in Indonesia
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Milo and POTUS posted:Is it languages or ethnicity? I figure Russian would be more ubiquitous in country. In either case aren't there like scores/hundreds of languages and ethnicities in Indonesia I don't think the East Timorese are ethnically Portuguese, so languages.
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Lycus posted:I don't think the East Timorese are ethnically Portuguese, so languages. Then we have a problem with Russia where everyone speaks just Russian outside very few large minorities.
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:I think the Philippines and Indonesia are the most offensive parts of that map Russia is five billion different indigenous languages, Indonesia is 100% Malay
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Phlegmish posted:Russia is five billion different indigenous languages, Indonesia is 100% Malay Sundanese and Javanese are widely spoken and pretty distinct from standard Indonesian, no?
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Pretty sure that was tongue in cheek, there’re literally hundreds of languages spoken in Indonesia, comprising more than 10% of all the world‘s currently living languages 
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And I’m Hainan island, which apparently speaks two unknown or unnamed languages neither of which is Mandarin. Same for those 3 unlabeled language west of Shanghai. Also apparently no one in Syria speaks Kurdish. Not to mention aren’t the three Kurdish languages largely mutually largely unintelligible?
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Is that a population of Azeri speakers in central Iran?
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Blut posted:"Measures allowing guns in bars" (!). Good grief. Alcohol + guns is definitely a worrying combination. sounds like a self-correcting problem tbh
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Blut posted:"Measures allowing guns in bars" (!). Good grief. Alcohol + guns is definitely a worrying combination. Everywhere this is allowed that I am aware of it is still illegal to drink while you have your gun, you're just allowed to be inside an establishment that serves alcohol, though police are often required to carry a gun off-duty and they can drink while doing so. Fun!
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Blut posted:"Measures allowing guns in bars" (!). Good grief. Alcohol + guns is definitely a worrying combination. Sounds like someone has never heard of a Schützenfest.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Is that a population of Azeri speakers in central Iran? They actually exist though
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More of them than in actual Azerbaijan, if I remember correctly.
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Phlegmish posted:More of them than in actual Azerbaijan, if I remember correctly. In Iran as a whole, yes, but not I think that one section of Kerman that our goon friend is referring to.  This map I like because of the thousand word disclaimer on it that basically says "do not trust this map".
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When did that big group of Kurds get way over there in Iran?
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Kurdish communities exist in disconnected blobs for much the same reason Armenians do
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Tsaedje posted:Kurdish communities exist in disconnected blobs for much the same reason Armenians do so they can plot the destruction of Turkey undetected?
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Look at that, the most "socialist" countries have the most billionaires.
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Lycus posted:When did that big group of Kurds get way over there in Iran? They got deported there sometime in the late 16th early 17th century either to fend of Uzbek attacks or keep them from rebelling or both, but also apparently Timur wrote about people telling him they were Kurds in that area in his memoirs so they were also there before that and I don't think we really know why? And I'm not sure we're likely too any time soon because the Iranian Government doesn't really like acknowledging their existence so I doubt they'd be keen on any archaeology studies to try to learn what was going on there.
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Saladman posted:And I’m Hainan island, which apparently speaks two unknown or unnamed languages neither of which is Mandarin. Judging by the colour, one is Min Nan, which is correct. The other is apparently... Korean. I guess the mapmaker wanted to represent indigenous languages like Li and Zhuang but I don't know why they'd pick that colour. Whiz Palace fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Apr 30, 2018 |
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Is there actually a big korean-speaking population in Manchuria?
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Is there actually a big korean-speaking population in Manchuria? In Yanbian, yeah
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81-99% of Papuan New Guineans are going to fight for their country? I don't know much about PNG, but that seems... suspicious. Somehow in 40 years, PNG has formed a strong sense of national identity, despite roads only connecting a small minority of the population, and with hundreds of different cultural groups and languages spoken—the largest of which is apparently only spoken by 3% of the population? That's pretty impressive. I wonder how many PNG citizens even self-identify as "New Guinean" before anything else. Probably like... none? I don't really know anything about PNG, but what little I've heard always makes it sound like it's the least "national" nation currently in existence. E: In the spirit of this thread, here's the highest-visual-quality map I was able to find in a quick look for linguistic regions of the country. No idea how accurate it is, but it sure is granular and looks like someone spent time and effort on it. 
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Platystemon posted:Sweden: Europe’s angry orange dong Whereas America's is…
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That's basically "countries that are either under actual potential physical threats or believe they are under actual physical threats." The phrase "fight for your country" completely devoid of context leaves the person answering the question to fill in the blanks in their head, which is easy if you can simply go to "yeah I'd defend the country from Russians or North Koreans" but falls apart if you're in Canada and your only physical threat is freezing rain.
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Saladman posted:81-99% of Papuan New Guineans are going to fight for their country? I don't know much about PNG, but that seems... suspicious. Somehow in 40 years, PNG has formed a strong sense of national identity, despite roads only connecting a small minority of the population, and with hundreds of different cultural groups and languages spoken—the largest of which is apparently only spoken by 3% of the population? You don't necessarily need to identify with your current country strongly to be willing to defend it against what you perceive to be invaders who'd be worse. I'd bet the PNG populace would be quite willing to keep Indonesia from coming in and grabbing stuff for instance.
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