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SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Whatever else about Burks's college tape, he seems to have high character and extremely good measurables

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZkvrb8zO5Q

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Paint Crop Pro
Mar 22, 2007

Find someone who values you like Rick Spielman values 7th round picks.



In a wild turn of events the Vikings have probably had the worst draft in the NFCN so far.

NFCN gonna be a shootout.

:smithicide:

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


anthony miller seems incredibly cool

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

OxySnake posted:

In a wild turn of events the Vikings have probably had the worst draft in the NFCN so far.

NFCN gonna be a shootout.

:smithicide:

Yeah, I'm happy about the Packers picks so far, and even happier with the dumb Vikings picks, but it's going to take a year or two for the new d to gel here in GB and the division will be 'Katy bar the door' until that happens

WHOOPS
Nov 6, 2009
the only solace I can take in the Vikings bad draft is that most anyone that take would be for depth anyway. G is the only position that needs a clear upgrade that they could have gotten a starter and the missed their chance at that in the first round.

If they take Hurst in the fourth round, i’ll come
round to the draft, though.

e: or Nyheim Hines.

WHOOPS fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Apr 28, 2018

Kedzie
Dec 13, 2004

they all float down here
The changes made to the Bears offense in one offseason seem amazing on paper. Now it is up to Nagy and Trubisky to make it happen. I’m really excited at the potential. Bears desperately need pass rush, very desperately.

Pace is doing well in the draft the last couple of season, and hopefully it works out.

Sataere
Jul 20, 2005


Step 1: Start fight
Step 2: Attack straw man
Step 3: REPEAT

Do not engage with me



R.D. Mangles posted:

anthony miller seems incredibly cool


Kedzie posted:

The changes made to the Bears offense in one offseason seem amazing on paper. Now it is up to Nagy and Trubisky to make it happen. I’m really excited at the potential. Bears desperately need pass rush, very desperately.

Pace is doing well in the draft the last couple of season, and hopefully it works out.

The Anthony Miller pick means they think they are a playoff team this year. They seem all in on this year.

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

nabbed our janis replacement
also the only draft pick of theirs I've seen play

can he catch? gently caress no
is he big and tough? yea
is he fast? sorta
will he be good on special teams? maybe

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

Sataere posted:

The Anthony Miller pick means they think they are a playoff team this year. They seem all in on this year.

Ahahahahahahahaha

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


4.49 40 isn't exactly blazing but it's fast enough to be a WR in the NFL. His agility numbers look really good, he's much more agile than Cobb, which is kinda :stare:

PupsOfWar posted:

can he catch? gently caress no

https://twitter.com/ByRyanWood/status/990285837832245248

Sataere
Jul 20, 2005


Step 1: Start fight
Step 2: Attack straw man
Step 3: REPEAT

Do not engage with me



Big Beef City posted:

Ahahahahahahahaha

I never said I thought they were right. :v:

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

SKULL.GIF posted:

4.49 40 isn't exactly blazing but it's fast enough to be a WR in the NFL. His agility numbers look really good, he's much more agile than Cobb, which is kinda :stare:


https://twitter.com/ByRyanWood/status/990285837832245248

he was repeatedly benched at missouri due to bad drops

that said, missouri's offense was actually really good down the stretch last year (record notwithstanding), and he was a big part of that.
draftniks don't grade him as a good route-runner, but from what I've seen he is actually pretty good on short timing routes - just hasn't figured out how to set up the longer, slower-developing routes yet.

would probably have had a 2nd-round grade if he could catch

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Speaking of Jeff Janis, the Packers just picked up Valdes-Scantling, who's 6'4 and runs a 4.37.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Show some respect, rookie.

https://twitter.com/Lions/status/990241118376873985

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
bears #1 position of need in the offseason that they didn't address was edge rusher
they finally drafted said position in the 6th round. cool

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

SKULL.GIF posted:

Speaking of Jeff Janis, the Packers just picked up Valdes-Scantling, who's 6'4 and runs a 4.37.

I like it, any contending team always needa s few good hyphenated-name guys imo
plus he played for the national championship runner-up USF Bulls, good pedigree

if he ends up beating out the other fringe receivers for a roster spot, maybe try him at returner for a bit (I know jaire can return, but prefer not to get the shiny new corner beaten up if avoidable)

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

ah dang, St. Brown too

Gute's doing what Thompson did with RBs last year

draft fifty guys late at position of need, hope at least one of 'em turns out better than advertised

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Whoa, I expected St Brown to go way earlier than that. Wonder why he fell.

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

SKULL.GIF posted:

Whoa, I expected St Brown to go way earlier than that. Wonder why he fell.

dude had 500 yards receiving last year coming in as a presumed #1 wideout - that's a pretty bad sign even knowing notre dame's whole pass offense was a garbage fire

still, he's 6'5'' and runs a 4.4, you'd think somebody would've taken a flyer on him before the back of the 6th

surf rock
Aug 12, 2007

We need more women in STEM, and by that, I mean skateboarding, television, esports, and magic.

PupsOfWar posted:

ah dang, St. Brown too

Gute's doing what Thompson did with RBs last year

draft fifty guys late at position of need, hope at least one of 'em turns out better than advertised

I love that strategy for receivers, running backs, and safeties. Get a bunch of athletic freaks cheap and if even one pans out, you've got a star on the cheap.

nerve
Jan 2, 2011

SKA SUCKS
Love this draft

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

I found my kendo stick, bitch!

Lipstick Apathy

surf rock posted:

I love that strategy for receivers, running backs, and safeties. Get a bunch of athletic freaks cheap and if even one pans out, you've got a star on the cheap.

Exactly. Late rounds are basically throwing darts in the dark anyway, might as well look for the physical tools and see if you can coach them into something.

Parallelwoody
Apr 10, 2008


I'm surprised Maurice Hurst dropped to the fifth round. I figure with the drop off in talent everyone was talking about after the top of the second at least one team would have taken a chance with a late 3rd or 4th rounder.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


nerve posted:

Love this draft

Me too! Too often with Ted's drafts I'd be like "Ehh... I guess..." but I feel very positive about this draft. The last drafts I felt very positive about were 2014 and 2009, so that bodes well.

That we snagged an extra first-rounder out of it is also ridiculously great. I'm reading that next year's draft class is very strong for edge rushers too.

I do wonder what's going to happen at WR though. There's like 13 receivers on the team now, and we're probably not going to carry any more than seven, and most likely only six receivers. Preseason cutdowns are going to be really interesting to follow this season.

Expand the loving rosters already.

Samadhi
May 13, 2001

Go
Pack














Go

Abugadu
Jul 12, 2004

1st Sgt. Matthews and the men have Procured for me a cummerbund from a traveling gypsy, who screeched Victory shall come at a Terrible price. i am Honored.

nerve posted:

Love this draft

Grand Theft Autobot
Feb 28, 2008

I'm something of a fucking idiot myself
I think identifying a few key positions and then drafting a bunch of guys for those is a real good idea. Realistically, you hope to hit on one of your 3 picks. If you do better you've got depth and trade bait.

If you have needs at 5 positions and try to hit them all you're taking a ton of risk on too few picks.

As far as Gute's actual draft, it is awesome to have 2 1sts next year. At the trade deadline either of those could be used to shore up the team for the playoffs.

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

happy with this draft for the green bay packors

two good corner boys

an ilb who doesn't seem great at tacking or block sheddling and seems to have...not great ball instincts, but is athletic and smart enough to hopefully develop in the rover-type role while blake martinez grinds it up in the middle (death to jake ryan)

a modest insurance policy on the o-line

a fifth round punter and a long snapper for some reason? (I have not been paying attention to whether new punt team specialists were needed, but I guess they were)

bunch of WRs with the physical ability to present mismatches if any of them learn to run routes and catch, which we've got three shots at.

bears good draft
lions okay draft
vikings not terrific draft but yall already won free agency

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


PupsOfWar posted:

a fifth round punter and a long snapper for some reason? (I have not been paying attention to whether new punt team specialists were needed, but I guess they were)

Vogel was good for us last year but JK Scott had an incredible college career.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/1/1/7479791/ohio-state-alabama-sugar-bowl-is-the-greatest-punting-display-in
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/11/alabama-crimson-tide-punter-jk-scott-best-player

Think of Scott as a defensive pick, really. If you can consistently pin the opponents deep in their territory then you're giving the Packers defense much more room to work with to shut down opposing offenses. I love the pick.

As for long snapper, the Packers have been trying to replace Brett Goode for a couple seasons now but long snapper is a really hard position to replace. It doesn't help Goode keeps getting injured. Taybor Pepper didn't work out, they're hoping Hunter Bradley does.

WHOOPS
Nov 6, 2009
outside of Mike Hughes in the return game and the kicker, i can’t imagine the Vikings will get much in the way of impact performances from this draft until 2019. all high upside guys which is only disappointing in the sense that they badly need a guard.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


WHOOPS posted:

outside of Mike Hughes in the return game and the kicker, i can’t imagine the Vikings will get much in the way of impact performances from this draft until 2019. all high upside guys which is only disappointing in the sense that they badly need a guard.

Honestly I think that speaks more to the strength of your current roster than it does to Spielman's drafting capabilities or anything like that. The Vikings are stacked to poo poo, it makes sense that their draft would be looking a little bit more to the future.

Green Bay and Chicago had massive deficiencies, that they were able to address them in the draft makes their drafts look much better in comparison.

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

yeah it's hard to see what immediate help the vikings would have needed

having addressed quarterback for the foreseeable future

great pass-catchers
good line
question mark at RB until they know how dalvin's injury heals up, but you can get good production out of backup-tier RBs with good blocking. murray's a way overqualified backup anyway

generally stacked D other than maybe the edge rush

anyhoo it made sense for them to go for depth

PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Apr 29, 2018

SirPablo
May 1, 2004

Pillbug
MIN has been more of a draft for development kind of team anyways during the Spielman era.

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


i think just not having any pass rushers and hoping to get into shootouts with cousins, stafford, and aaron loving rodgers is a winning football strategy

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


https://twitter.com/ZouCast/status/777311583114375168

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


the packers picked up monster northwestern DT tyler lancaster as part of their program to specifically antagonize me

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


R.D. Mangles posted:

the packers picked up monster northwestern DT tyler lancaster as part of their program to specifically antagonize me

https://twitter.com/BigLanny6767/status/990368388206813185

xsf421
Feb 17, 2011

The Lions signed a 6'6" 260lb kicker/punter as a UDFA. Hopefully the competition gets Martin back to where he was in 2016.

https://twitter.com/RyanSantoso90/status/990377724039528453

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004



ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Paracaidas
Sep 24, 2016
Consistently Tedious!

xsf421 posted:

The Lions signed a 6'6" 260lb kicker/punter as a UDFA. Hopefully the competition gets Martin back to where he was in 2016.

https://twitter.com/RyanSantoso90/status/990377724039528453

Most impressively, this is Santoso's size after losing a considerable amount of weight.

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