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Little Mac posted:Not a joke, but they enlisted Wizard Magazine to run an article about how the Sentry was really this long lost Stan Lee creation. It was a hoax for advertising proposes but I think they revealed it the next month or something There we go, I had Wizard flashing in my mind but couldn't recall their role in it.
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the Sentry/Void is a stupid stupid stupid character that completely went off the rails some time before Siege, and it did not please me in the slightest to see him brought back in Remender's nonsensical Uncanny Avengers pre-SW or Aaron's yawn-inducing Doctor Strange post-SW. hell I'm even mad his dumb ugly Watchtower appeared in a Spider-Man video game from about the same timeframe as the height of his usage
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Apr 29, 2018 21:10
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:There we go, I had Wizard flashing in my mind but couldn't recall their role in it. I remember falling for it when I was like fifteen. Didn’t read the Sentry until years later. The turn of the century was an exciting time at Marvel.
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Apr 29, 2018 21:27
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Donny Cates brought Sentry back in Strange, not Jason Aaron.
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Apr 29, 2018 21:29
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I stand corrected, I forgot the writers changed with Legacy
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Apr 29, 2018 21:39
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Autism Sneaks posted:hell I'm even mad his dumb ugly Watchtower appeared in a Spider-Man video game from about the same timeframe as the height of his usage I was more bothered that it wasn't a solid object.
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Apr 29, 2018 22:20
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I started catching up on Ms. Marvel today and god dammit why did Becky have to come back? Get into the trash along with the rest of CWII.
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Apr 29, 2018 23:04
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I like the Sentry but am still flabbergasted there's no definitive Void origin.
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Apr 29, 2018 23:08
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Maybe that will change when that new Lemire series starts because that will undoubtedly be the only good extended run the Sentry character has ever featured in.
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Apr 29, 2018 23:48
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I bet that Sentry series is twelve issues unless they have some big plans for the character. Just read the last issue of The Mighty Thor. The back cover took me by surprise when I finished reading.
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Apr 30, 2018 00:39
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Little Mac posted:I like the Sentry but am still flabbergasted there's no definitive Void origin. There's no definitive anything origin for Sentry. Bendis tried to retcon it and then Jenkins re-retconned it again in the second mini and then Bendis implied Moses was the void or some loving thing.
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Apr 30, 2018 00:57
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it doesn't help that the whole deal is extremely vague in the original series. I think that it was like, the darkness inside Robbie, given form and power and the ability to go off and do stuff by itself by the serum? But that doesn't explain why everyone in the world had to forget about the Sentry, and not just Robbie. If it was just that Robbie needed to stop drinking the serum but was addicted to it, couldn't they just have made him forget that he was the Sentry?
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Apr 30, 2018 01:03
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Open Marriage Night posted:I bet that Sentry series is twelve issues unless they have some big plans for the character. 12 issues is a long run these days.
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Guy Goodbody posted:it doesn't help that the whole deal is extremely vague in the original series. I think that it was like, the darkness inside Robbie, given form and power and the ability to go off and do stuff by itself by the serum? I mean the entire thing was metaphorical, it didn't have to make 100% sense in the text. But then he became part of actual continuity and things got muddy.
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Apr 30, 2018 01:09
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Lurdiak posted:There's no definitive anything origin for Sentry. Bendis tried to retcon it and then Jenkins re-retconned it again in the second mini and then Bendis implied Moses was the void or some loving thing. it was the Biblical Angel of Death that Passover is observed for, which would make the Void like the third or fourth being in Marvel heavily implied to be that Angel of Death
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Apr 30, 2018 01:30
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I don't see why one couldn't make a team of adult Valeria and adult Franklin Richards, Blue Marvel, Hyperion, Spider-UK-Capt. Universe, a Phoenix, Abyss, Ex Nihilo, Doom and Mary Jane Parker to explore the multi-verse as a team of Avengers or their own Pantheon written by Hickman. Something akin to Planetary as a team of explorers of the new and unique.
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Apr 30, 2018 02:47
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Autism Sneaks posted:it was the Biblical Angel of Death that Passover is observed for, which would make the Void like the third or fourth being in Marvel heavily implied to be that Angel of Death My read of that was that the Sentry/Void is a force (or entity) that attaches to people and can express as both their idealized paragon-of-humanity form—a superhero in modern Marvel, a prophet for this dude millennia ago—and as a dark, consuming hate-cloud taking inspiration from that person's fears and beliefs—a cosmic supervillain, the Angel of Death.
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Apr 30, 2018 03:10
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Boy howdy love that hamhanded appropriation of actual living religion into dudes in pajamas punching each other.
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Apr 30, 2018 03:14
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Or, hell, maybe not even that deep. It makes someone a hero as they conceptualize such a thing, and at full power it expresses as a tentacle hate cloud thing that tends to describe itself in threatening ways that its audience will find scary. Florid, nonliteral self-description isn't a new idea in the ol' funnybooks.
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Mr. Maltose posted:Boy howdy love that hamhanded appropriation of actual living religion into dudes in pajamas punching each other.   
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Apr 30, 2018 03:23
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Mr. Maltose posted:Boy howdy love that hamhanded appropriation of actual living religion into dudes in pajamas punching each other. ehh, the bar's already set at a battle android inhabited by the soul of Mary Magdalene doing battle with her former body transformed into a soulless battle cyborg. It's hard to get up in arms about anything short of that
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Apr 30, 2018 03:28
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I mean, there’s a bit of difference of magnitude there but okay.
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Apr 30, 2018 03:36
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There was a great Green Lantern one-shot from Tom King last year about his Catholicism, and having read all of Geoff Johns' almost decade long run previously, I had no idea Hal was religious at all.
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Apr 30, 2018 03:36
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Teenage Fansub posted:There was a great Green Lantern one-shot from Tom King last year about his Catholicism, and having read all of Geoff Johns' almost decade long run previously, I had no idea Hal was religious at all. Geoff Johns got exactly zero characters' personalities right in his run. Well, maybe Mogo's.
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Apr 30, 2018 03:51
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Remembered that time when Geoff Johns wrote Avengers for like two years? No? Neither do I because it wasn’t any good.
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Apr 30, 2018 03:57
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X-O posted:Remembered that time when Geoff Johns wrote Avengers for like two years? No? Neither do I because it wasn’t any good. Was it the one where we had a scene of Hank Pym very tiny giving Janet orgasms showing him walking up her all tiny like from down the sheets then saying it was her turn now?
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Apr 30, 2018 04:24
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Teenage Fansub posted:There was a great Green Lantern one-shot from Tom King last year about his Catholicism, and having read all of Geoff Johns' almost decade long run previously, I had no idea Hal was religious at all. his legendary willpower comes from harnessing the Catholic guilt from almost destroying the universe
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Apr 30, 2018 04:28
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Mr. Maltose posted:Boy howdy love that hamhanded appropriation of actual living religion into dudes in pajamas punching each other. I’m not sure the angel of death is really actual living religion anymore.
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Lurdiak posted:Geoff Johns got exactly zero characters' personalities right in his run. Not really, Mogo doesn’t socialize.
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Apr 30, 2018 04:34
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Teenage Fansub posted:There was a great Green Lantern one-shot from Tom King last year about his Catholicism, and having read all of Geoff Johns' almost decade long run previously, I had no idea Hal was religious at all. Hal is also Catholic? I recall that King also made Kyle Catholic in his Omega Men run
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Apr 30, 2018 04:52
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I think Kyle being Catholic goes back to his original run.
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I read through early X-Factor a whole bunch as a kid, and while I clearly remembered the pages of Apocalypse turning into different gods, I never noticed that it was basically a powerpoint presentation.
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Gatts posted:Was it the one where we had a scene of Hank Pym very tiny giving Janet orgasms showing him walking up her all tiny like from down the sheets then saying it was her turn now? Yes. That sure is! Then the question becomes where did he want Jan to go?
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Codependent Poster posted:Yes. That sure is! Then the question becomes where did he want Jan to go? My dude have you heard of sounding?
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Apr 30, 2018 07:33
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Codependent Poster posted:Yes. That sure is! Then the question becomes where did he want Jan to go? "Boop. And then, zing!"
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X-O posted:Remembered that time when Geoff Johns wrote Avengers for like two years? No? Neither do I because it wasn’t any good. Almost all of those stories were about the Iraq War in some way, weren't they? Even the one where Thor incurs international outrage when he leads Asgard to intervene in an Eastern European country where his worshippers are oppressed by the tyrannical government (it's all part of a plan by Dr Doom). That one had some pretty good Alan Davis art, though. Isn't that also where the Red Skull masquerading as "Dell Rusk" comes from? There's one good bit in that story where the Red Skull faces off against T'Challa and gets his jaw punched half off.
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Skwirl posted:I remember enjoying a Spider-Man/Batman crossover where Carnage is being transferred to Arkham and escapes with the Joker. Although it has Batman beating up Carnage in a physical fight, which is almost as dumb as Venom succesfully using a judo flip on loving Superman. Advice: if that kind of thing bugs you, never ever read the Batman / Hulk crossover.
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X-O posted:Remembered that time when Geoff Johns wrote Avengers for like two years? No? Neither do I because it wasn’t any good. I do... because he wrote an incredibly lovely She-Hulk story. And speaking of religion and comics, did you know third-tier Nova villain The Sphinx was the wizard for the biblical pharaoh in Exodus who got fired because he staff got eaten by Moses?
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Apr 30, 2018 12:30
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What was the terrible issue of She Hulk about?
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Random Stranger posted:And speaking of religion and comics, did you know third-tier Nova villain The Sphinx was the wizard for the biblical pharaoh in Exodus who got fired because he staff got eaten by Moses? It's sort of funny how the Sphinx became the arch-villain for the New Warriors in the 90s because of his Nova connection. Sort of like how Graviton somehow ended up as the main enemy of the Thunderbolts when Fabian Nicieza wrote them. Actually, Nicieza's done that a few times. Remember in New Thunderbolts how the villain was the Purple Man for a while and in one scene he reveals that he's mind controlling all of Earth's heroes using the old FF villain Overmind and quips that he "found him on the discarded characters pile"?
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