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Wheeee posted:Ford should just replace their gross looking blue oval with a bold black FORD across the board Ford didn't even bother with using the blue oval before the early 1980s, fyi.
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I liked our flex (did a 3 year lease) and I'd consider another one if it got better fuel economy and had some more modern doodads available. Looked good, was comfortable, and never needed a repair.
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ilkhan posted:GF and I are going to end up with F-150/Model 3 and an Outback, respectively, before we have our kid(s). So much space. We just checked out Outbacks and were really disappointed, even coming from a previous Outback that we loved and ended up with a Mazda CX-9 which is lightyears ahead and only a little bigger.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:Perhaps, but I'm sick of people justifying their gigantic SUV's they can't even see out of, park or drive properly because MY CHILDREN. killing my family in a rollover because they were uncomfortable driving an SUV to own the libs
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Flyinglemur posted:Also, is there a "loving Dealerships man" thread? Because gently caress everything about the Ford dealership I went to this morning. There was one but goons gonna goon and drama ensued and they ran off a Good Poster.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:killing my family in a rollover because they were uncomfortable driving an SUV to own the libs lol if you actually believe this poo poo is relevant to modern CUVs oh gently caress consumer reports flipped a Samurai while trying back in the 80s and for a while the primitive old Explorers and poo poo had a much higher chance of rollover in the event of a collision, i would never put my family in a death trap like a CX-9, or allow them to wear seatbelts after my best friends uncle had a crash that the police told him he never would have survived if he wasnt thrown free!!! Why are Internet Car Guys generally so ignorant of the actual engineering and broader industry related to cars? opengl128 posted:There was one but goons gonna goon and drama ensued and they ran off a Good Poster. If you’re talking about Kia salesman guy lol no he was not a Good Poster. Wheeee fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Apr 29, 2018 |
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thats not what i said you fuckstick
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The CX-9 isn’t the problem (aside from being obnoxiously large) it’s the pickup based SUVs (and double cab versions of pickups themselves) that are inappropriate for onroad usage.
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Wheeee posted:If you’re talking about Kia salesman guy lol no he was not a Good Poster. lol no, this was longer ago. Forget her forum name but she still posts neat stuff on the FB group sometimes.
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Wheeee posted:If you’re talking about Kia salesman guy lol no he was not a Good Poster. 
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dissss posted:The CX-9 isn’t the problem (aside from being obnoxiously large) it’s the pickup based SUVs (and double cab versions of pickups themselves) that are inappropriate for onroad usage. Trolling is generally supposed to make the other person look stupid, so you should re-work this post
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Apr 30, 2018 01:36
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Disss is in NZ so they have different vehicles. All our SUVs in North America have gone on to be unibody vehicles.
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Charles posted:Disss is in NZ so they have different vehicles. All our SUVs in North America have gone on to be unibody vehicles. What?
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We don't really have any body on frame SUVs any more.
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Charles posted:We don't really have any body on frame SUVs any more. Except for the Expedition, Yukon, 4runner, Sequoia, Armada, Wranger, G-class, Lexux GX, Lexus LX, and all the various luxury variants of those vehicles. Apart from all those, yeah, there's none
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Powershift posted:Except for the Expedition, Yukon, 4runner, Sequoia, Armada, Wranger, G-class, Lexux GX, Lexus LX, and all the various luxury variants of those vehicles. Well I didn't mean literally but I mean like the Ford Explorer is a FWD unibody now. The stuff that most people buy like RAV4s and Hyundai whatever.
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You can’t tell me an Everest or Fortuner is a suitable faintly vehicle. They simply do not handle on road conditions very well.
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dissss posted:You can’t tell me an Everest or Fortuner is a suitable faintly vehicle. They simply do not handle on road conditions very well. Why yes, that extra few inches of height and BoF construction really impede me from dropping my kids off at school and driving to swim lessons... You do realize that one of the complaints of the last 20 years is that trucks and SUVs are being designed for on-road driving first, and losing some of their work/off-road capability as a result, right?
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I am concerned that 80% of the vehicles on the road are 4000lb - 5000lb high COG CUVS/SUVS that will absolutely flatten my 944 when they blow a red light because they're busy snapchatting or whatever people do these days instead of paying attention to the road. They'll get a dent and my car won't be recognizable as a vehicle.
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CornHolio posted:I am concerned that 80% of the vehicles on the road are 4000lb - 5000lb high COG CUVS/SUVS that will absolutely flatten my 944 when they blow a red light because they're busy snapchatting or whatever people do these days instead of paying attention to the road. They'll get a dent and my car won't be recognizable as a vehicle. I deal with that by driving my miata the way I rode my motorcycles or ride my bicycles: imagine you're invisible to everyone on the road and plan accordingly.
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opengl128 posted:lol no, this was longer ago. Forget her forum name but she still posts neat stuff on the FB group sometimes. I forget her name too, all I remember was her custom title, "Forum Bicycle" 
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Apr 30, 2018 17:12
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"goatse guy" i thought the reference to running off the car salesman was the guy who had the escalade and was a complete apologist for how lovely dealerships and salesmen are. he deleted all his project car posts and never came back.
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goatse guy and her dealership lap doggo were pretty cool, and I legit miss her
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Goober Peas posted:goatse guy and her dealership lap doggo were pretty cool, and I legit miss her She has good taste in dogs and cars. Is a cool person.
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Dogs are good.
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TheMadMilkman posted:Why yes, that extra few inches of height and BoF construction really impede me from dropping my kids off at school and driving to swim lessons... Let me guess - you haven’t driven one of the aforementioned medium-sized pickup based ‘SUVs’ have you? The difference between a Fortuner and a Highlander on the road is stark and many people are now inappropriately choosing the former where they really need the latter.
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dissss posted:Let me guess - you haven’t driven one of the aforementioned medium-sized pickup based ‘SUVs’ have you? Well, I’m not Australian, so no, I haven’t. I have shopped 4Runners and Lexus GXs, though, which are also mid-sized SUVs. They’re fine. Sure, you get a bit more body roll, they accelerate fairly slowly, and don’t corner as well, but their performance is well within the parameters that an average person needs. Saying they’re completely inappropriate for on-road use is completely asinine.
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TheMadMilkman posted:Well, I’m not Australian, so no, I haven’t. The average person parks their corolla in every corner anyway. They drive their sedans like they're a 13 foot tall box truck loaded with fish, so it's not like it matters to the vast majority. As long as they can neglect it like a washing machine and it still starts in the morning, they don't care.
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BloodBag posted:The average person parks their corolla in every corner anyway. They drive their sedans like they're a 13 foot tall box truck loaded with fish, so it's not like it matters to the vast majority. As long as they can neglect it like a washing machine and it still starts in the morning, they don't care. That's the thing I don't understand about people saying "oh, the poorer handling doesn't matter with a taller vehicle." I mean, obviously it does, because people feel they're unable to corner at a reasonable goddamn speed, and crawl around exits and roundabouts at 20 km/h. Something's giving them that feeling.
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I feel like most people aren't getting in their cars/CUVs/SUVs/trucks in the morning and going "strap yourself in and feel the Gs!!!" regardless of how cornering-capable their vehicles are. Whether or not this is a (probably good for just regular driving) learned behavior from driving things that feel unstable when pushed or because people just kinda don't give a poo poo and would rather warp gate to work I can't say.
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All the same, these are corners I've taken at speed in a Jeep Wrangler without feeling uncomfortable. I don't get why you'd go to the trouble of pressing the brakes unless you're in something that feels really unstable, or are carrying an aquarium with an open top or some stupid poo poo like that. That's extra work, I'm lazy.
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https://twitter.com/Automotive_News/status/991326676679348231 That seems like a lot
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PT6A posted:Something's giving them that feeling. The 4 year old tires that they paid $35/per for that have 120k miles on them probably don't help much. I love encountering the mildest curve on interstates. You know, the ones that cause massive backups because there's a <5 degree change in course. I've seen people drop 20mph through them even when there's no other traffic. It's insane.
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PT6A posted:All the same, these are corners I've taken at speed in a Jeep Wrangler without feeling uncomfortable. I don't get why you'd go to the trouble of pressing the brakes unless you're in something that feels really unstable, or are carrying an aquarium with an open top or some stupid poo poo like that. That's extra work, I'm lazy. Could be a lack of attention I guess- kind of a "I'm not focusing enough to know if I can take this curve at speed; better brake just to be sure" type thing
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PT6A posted:That's the thing I don't understand about people saying "oh, the poorer handling doesn't matter with a taller vehicle." I mean, obviously it does, because people feel they're unable to corner at a reasonable goddamn speed, and crawl around exits and roundabouts at 20 km/h. Something's giving them that feeling.
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ilkhan posted:Put those same people/drivers in a Miata and they'd still corner at 5mph. Oh my, I’m so close to the ground and everything just looks so fast!
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I try to give people the benefit of the doubt so I don't road rage myself to an early grave, so I just imagine that everyone taking turns slowly is transporting a potted plant in the back seat.
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There are plenty of people out there who feel like they're cornering too fast if they can feel any perceptible g-forces.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:There are plenty of people out there who feel like they're cornering too fast if they can feel any perceptible g-forces. Anytime my mom used to ride with me she would hang on for dear life any time I cornered at more than a full stop, yelling JESUS CHRIST the entire time.
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