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There's been lots of speculation about time jumps backwards and forwards. Someone claimed to have seen Black Widow with her red hair so there might be time travel. My proposed ending is still best though.
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Rhyno posted:There's been lots of speculation about time jumps backwards and forwards. Someone claimed to have seen Black Widow with her red hair so there might be time travel. If there is a bunch of time between the two movies it would make reversing everything more of a moral dilemma. If the universe has moved on, can you really turn it all back? Think of babies who are born in the meantime who would be unmade. Would they still end up living after the Great Cosmic Mulligan? Maybe, maybe not.
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Apr 30, 2018 01:29
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I was going to say the Avengers Cap suit wasn't that bad, but I went and looked at pictures and yeah, it is. I'm so glad Whedon's gone.
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Apr 30, 2018 01:32
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This movie, more than Whedon's, truly felt like all the characters came from where we last saw them in their own movies, to try and fight together a threat they cannot handle alone. It was all impressive as hell. I may have cried a little bit at Spider-man "dying". I was hopeful when almost the entirety of the GotG were wiped that Spidey would make it.
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Endless Mike posted:I was going to say the Avengers Cap suit wasn't that bad, but I went and looked at pictures and yeah, it is. It's just stunningly bad. Especially compared to what came before and after.
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Apr 30, 2018 02:00
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Whedon kind of reminds me of Raimi. I do love a lot about his Avengers though. Made me care about the Vision before Tom King's comic.
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Apr 30, 2018 02:06
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Open Marriage Night posted:Whedon kind of reminds me of Raimi. I do love a lot about his Avengers though. Made me care about the Vision before Tom King's comic. I put 90% of that on Paul Bettany. Edit: Chadwick's hair in Civil War is so boring, he looks so much better in BP. Regal as gently caress. Rhyno fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Apr 30, 2018 |
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Apr 30, 2018 02:08
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I feel like Whedon never truly understood Cap in his Avengers movies. Cap is a noble, upstanding guy, but he would not have been a prude worried about bad language, having grown up in Brooklyn during the Depression and fought in World War II alongside the Howling Commandos.
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Apr 30, 2018 02:43
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:I feel like Whedon never truly understood Cap in his Avengers movies. Cap is a noble, upstanding guy, but he would not have been a prude worried about bad language, having grown up in Brooklyn during the Depression and fought in World War II alongside the Howling Commandos. Absolutely, Whedon's Cap was just terrible. He may as well be a totally different character in TWS.
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Apr 30, 2018 02:47
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I will defend his exasperated "It seems to run on electricity" nonetheless. Being able to hotwire a car doesn't mean you know instantly what's going on with a piece of advanced military equipment from 70 years in the future.
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Nodosaur posted:I will defend his exasperated "It seems to run on electricity" nonetheless. I lay all the praise for that on Evans.
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Apr 30, 2018 02:48
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WhedonCap is mostly fine in Avengers 1. He’s kind of obnoxious in Ultron.
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My only semi-major complaint about Infinity War (and this is not even about Infinity War specifically, just almost all modern movies with huge set pieces) is that the difference in quality between a very bright full CGI set and a dark CGI set or a partial physical set with CGI is still very noticeable. Some of the segments in Infinity War (space, the forge, and dark sections on Titan/Nowhere) are gorgeous. The bright full-CGI backgrounds (parts of Wakanda or the city that Thanos genocides in his flashback) look fine, but "flat" and stand out more. This was egregiously bad in Jurassic World and a lot of other blockbusters that were very expensive and polished. No amount of money or time seems to be able to overcome it right now and a darker background on a full-CGI set just consistently looks better. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Apr 30, 2018 |
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Apr 30, 2018 02:53
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X-O posted:Oh man, James Cameron is going to be so pissed. Also that movie owned and I kinda don't want to see it again until Avengers 4 comes out because goddamn. I may or may not have yelled at the screen when the final message was "Thanos will return". Throw us a loving bone, god drat it you sadistic fucks! I mean, look. This is obviously the one way Dr. Strange saw to win and he's playing a long game, there's some trick in the Time Stone or something, they'll get the gauntlet off Thanos and bring everyone back. But that was still loving brutal.
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Apr 30, 2018 03:07
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Whoever decided to switch the "<Protagonist> will return" message at the end of the movie to "Thanos will return" deserves a bonus and an employee of the month award for trolling.
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Apr 30, 2018 03:14
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Cap's costume in Avengers makes sense when you remember HYDRA was SHIELD and they were clearly doing it to gently caress with him. From a story standpoint, the costume actually makes a lot of sense. It's a bit cartoonish and stiff, kinda like Cap himself. It's also designed with a heavy focus on visual to really make Cap stand out as being back in the world and making him a symbol. And it was the absolute perfect costume to wear for those videos in Homecoming. Can't hate the costume too much. It served its purpose and now we go on to better-looking costumes.
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Apr 30, 2018 03:23
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CapnAndy posted:It was Force Awaken's record, though? I think Disney is pretty okay with losing the belt to themselves. Yes, I said Cameron is going to be pissed in reference to his interview last week where he said he hoped people were getting Avengers fatigue since this is the opposite of Avengers fatigue.
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Jamesman posted:Cap's costume in Avengers makes sense when you remember HYDRA was SHIELD and they were clearly doing it to gently caress with him. This wasn't a thing yet so I will continue to blame Whedon for his bullshit.
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Rhyno posted:This wasn't a thing yet so I will continue to blame Whedon for his bullshit. I think with this one it's more a case of the broken clock being right.
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Apr 30, 2018 04:33
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We rewatched Ant-Man and we're wrapping up Civil War now and seriously, Paul Rudd is a blessing.
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Open Marriage Night posted:Whedon kind of reminds me of Raimi. I'm not really seeing this comparison, maybe some of the tone of Avengers matches up with Spider-Man, but as film-makers they seem pretty radically different. I don't really hate the Avengers 1 Cap costume, the biggest problem is the gloves and boots that are so much bulkier than the rest of it making the costume itself look a little like undergarments if you squint.
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Apr 30, 2018 05:11
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The mask is horrible.
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Calling it a mask is being charitable. It’s a glorified hoodie.
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Just got back from Infinity War. It's insane how consistently funny Dave Bautista is. "How long have you been standing there?" "An hour."
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i tried to watch ant-man recently and turned it off halfway through only mcu movie i've done that with it was just boring?
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X-O posted:Yes, I said Cameron is going to be pissed in reference to his interview last week where he said he hoped people were getting Avengers fatigue since this is the opposite of Avengers fatigue. Who the gently caress asked for Avatar sequels anyway? The movie was an incredible experience in IMAX 3D but the actual movie itself was... okay? I guess? I never felt the need to rewatch it.
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Soul Glo posted:i tried to watch ant-man recently and turned it off halfway through Your face is boring and I hate you. Paul Rudd is a DELIGHT.
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Kai Tave posted:Just got back from Infinity War. It's insane how consistently funny Dave Bautista is. I was laughing my rear end off at "WHY is gamora?!" and him going "Do it Quill, I can take it!" as a huge gun is pointed at his face
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Draz is indeed awesome. Is there really anyone in Marvel's expansive film cast that is just bad in their role? I SAID FILM CAST SHUT THE gently caress UP ABOUT IRON FIST
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Away all Goats posted:I was laughing my rear end off at "WHY is gamora?!" and him going "Do it Quill, I can take it!" as a huge gun is pointed at his face Seriously, if someone had told me that the sleeper MVP of the Guardians of the Galaxy was going to be Dave Bautista as Drax the Destroyer consistently stealing every scene with his incredible comic delivery I'd have thought you were crazy, but drat if they didn't knock it out of the park by casting him. The guy's a delight. I agree with a lot of the other points people have already made about the movie, but the thing I really enjoyed about it is that all the bits with the different characters felt like their respective movies. Going back to Whedon's kinda garbage take on the characters in Age of Ultron as an example where you'd have the characters in their solo movies and then that feeling of them being mishandled in AoU, in IW every time the scene shifted to the Guardians of the Galaxy it felt like a GotG movie, and then when it shifted back to Thor it felt like, oh yeah, this is Thor all right, straight out of Ragnarok, then Cap and his gang show up and it's back to Civil War, same with Black Panther. It's definitely a big bombastic spectacle movie, but the impressive bit is they managed to spin all those plates while preserving the various styles and tones of the slices of the universe they were mashing together in the process.
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Avengers was a success in that it was a competent sequel to four films. Infinity War is a massive triumph because it is not only a sequel to six individual films but the characters are true to their own films.
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I thought the language joke was pretty funny. I liked his "We'll lose together" bit. The speech he's giving right as they land in Sokovia. Obviously the best Cap movie is Winter Soldier, but I can't really think of any serious missteps Whedon made with the character. I know people freak out over the God thing, but it's really not that serious. Why do people keep saying Thor didn't use his power? He is blatantly using a poo poo load of lightning in the final fight. And mowing through those aliens like nobody else on the field was capable of. His eye even went all glowy. Did you guys fall asleep? VVVVV SonicRulez fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Apr 30, 2018 |
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Kai Tave posted:I agree with a lot of the other points people have already made about the movie, but the thing I really enjoyed about it is that all the bits with the different characters felt like their respective movies. "Okay so I'm not the god of hammers and in fact Mjolnir was a power limiter on me and I'm much more powerful embracing my nature as the god of thunder and just channeling the power... welp! Sounds like what I need right the gently caress away is a new hammer and to not even attempt to tap my super mode! Man, I'm good at thunder-godding."
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CapnAndy posted:I dunno, I feel like Thor sorta forgot his major lesson from the end of Ragnarok a bit. Eh, I don't really feel like he forgot it as such, his entrance to the Wakanda fight was followed by a huge amount of thunder godding all over the place, way moreso then you saw in previous movies where it was mostly about hammers and punching, but he already tried fighting Thanos once with just his godly power and he got his rear end soundly kicked, we just didn't get to see that part. Thanos is several steps above anything else including Cate Blanchett which means that it's time to pull out all the stops, which means going and getting a god-slaying weapon. SonicRulez posted:I thought the language joke was pretty funny. I liked his "We'll lose together" bit. The speech he's giving right as they land in Sokovia. Obviously the best Cap movie is Winter Soldier, but I can't really think of any serious missteps Whedon made with the character. I know people freak out over the God thing, but it's really not that serious. I think the romance subplot between Banner and Natalya was an interesting idea on paper that wound up atrociously dreadful in execution, Nick Fury showing up with SHIELD remnants out of nowhere like nothing happened after the end of Winter Soldier, etc. It's not just Cap in particular. I've long held the opinion that Whedon isn't nearly the amazing writer that nerds used to laud him as for years and years, and I'm glad his tenure on Marvel Movies is over and done with because the Russos do it better by far.
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To this day I still can't figure out what Whedon did to score the Avengers gig. Serenity was terrible.
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Also watching Ant-Man right now and yeah it's just so fun. Big fan of this movie.Rhyno posted:Draz is indeed awesome. Is there really anyone in Marvel's expansive film cast that is just bad in their role? Before Infinity War I would've said Doctor Strange. He's the only one where I felt like the casting just whiffed it, but I also hate his movie on nearly every level. After IW I'm pretty on board and he's much closer to "my" Doctor Strange.
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Unmature posted:Before Infinity War I would've said Doctor Strange. He's the only one where I felt like the casting just whiffed it, but I also hate his movie on nearly every level. After IW I'm pretty on board and he's much closer to "my" Doctor Strange. I didn't even dislike Doctor Strange all that much but I agree that he's definitely come much more into his own outside of his own movie. Cumberbatch is the most fan-casty of the major characters so far imo but he isn't terrible, and certainly improved in his bit in Ragnarok and moreso in IW.
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I feel like he hit it at "Dormammu, I've come to bargain", so maybe it was just still-learning-this-poo poo Dr. Strange that was outside his wheelhouse.
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Kai Tave posted:I didn't even dislike Doctor Strange all that much but I agree that he's definitely come much more into his own outside of his own movie. Cumberbatch is the most fan-casty of the major characters so far imo but he isn't terrible, and certainly improved in his bit in Ragnarok and moreso in IW. I always called him the most Wizard Magazine-rear end casting they could've picked. Marvel has had mostly inspired casting. They go so far out of what you'd expect and find unknowns or knowns that you wouldn't think to see in a comic movie. Cumberbatch is the first kneejerk casting you could think of.
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Rhyno posted:Draz is indeed awesome. Is there really anyone in Marvel's expansive film cast that is just bad in their role? He’s gone now, but Terrance Howard was an extremely boring Rhodey. Marvel’s been fortunate enough to avoid bad casting since then, but one issue they still have is occasionally wasting good actors and actresses on forgettable characters. Mads Mikkelsen is the most glaring example, but you could make cases for Christopher Eccleston, Glenn Close, and Karl Urban. edit: Technically this is more “wasting a cameo”, but Tunde Adebimpe only had one forgettable line in Homecoming 
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