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MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

Dunno-Lars posted:

I would also guess that pellets bounce back... But my knowledge of firearms are also pretty basic.

I doubt it would cause them to bounce back, that metal isn't strong enough, they might not all pierce through though. I suppose it also depends on range, you could also toss slug shots in and those'll gently caress the drive right up without a second thought.

I am the metalhead that's a sys/net admin, also ex-raver. I work with 2 guys that were ravers, 1 was a happy hardcore kandikid and I could totally tell before hand, those kids were always a little off. Also a couple other guys are metalheads as well, most are cool, 1 dude is someone I would not hang out with outside of work though.

MF_James fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Apr 28, 2018

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Myrridinos
Jan 7, 2010

MF_James posted:

I doubt it would cause them to bounce back, that metal isn't strong enough, they might not all pierce through though. I suppose it also depends on range, you could also toss slug shots in and those'll gently caress the drive right up without a second thought.

I am the metalhead that's a sys/net admin, also ex-raver. I work with 2 guys that were ravers, 1 was a happy hardcore kandikid and I could totally tell before hand, those kids were always a little off. Also a couple other guys are metalheads as well, most are cool, 1 dude is someone I would not hang out with outside of work though.

Might cause a ricochet though. Good excuse to use the .30-06

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal
Expense the rounds under 'data security'

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Proteus Jones posted:

Well, *I* appreciated this. But not at a super high level, because I wanted to make the same comment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12LLJFSBnS4

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

Judge Schnoopy posted:

Expense the rounds under 'data security'

I was told by the boss that as long as I was willing to certify under penalty of perjury that the data was destroyed. And that I could and should expense it.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



100 yards, tannerite. For good luck yell “Cease Fire Bitch!” after you’re done.

22 Eargesplitten fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Apr 29, 2018

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

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Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

22 Eargesplitten posted:

100 yards, tannerite. For good luck yell “Cease Fire Bitch!” after you’re done.

Tannerite plus anything is bad juju, because you eventually figure 'why not?'. 'Because its a loving IED now you fuckwit' is why not.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

22 Eargesplitten posted:

100 yards, tannerite. For good luck yell “Cease Fire Bitch!” after you’re done.

gently caress yes, what a wonderful time I had at Guncon that I would never want to repeat.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Regarding explosives, I’m just going to link this article from my home town paper.

http://www.newsminer.com/news/local...1a4bcf6878.html

Myrridinos
Jan 7, 2010
Might wanna leave civilization far away from other people and their property if you are gonna be playing with explosions.

What kinda pisses me off is when clients don't respond with confirmation on scheduling. I left emails and voice-mails with no response. Means I am going to have to migrate their email services over a week-day instead of the weekend as it has to be done before next weekend regardless.

I am most certainly not going to pull the trigger on something like that without a confirmation.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

Myrridinos posted:

Might wanna leave civilization far away from other people and their property if you are gonna be playing with explosions.

What kinda pisses me off is when clients don't respond with confirmation on scheduling. I left emails and voice-mails with no response. Means I am going to have to migrate their email services over a week-day instead of the weekend as it has to be done before next weekend regardless.

I am most certainly not going to pull the trigger on something like that without a confirmation.

Client: Why didn't you do it when you said you would in the e-mail?
You: You never confirmed!
Client: But you said you were going to do it... Why didn't you?!?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Drive me nuts with requests to look poo poo up for people. Old orders, etc.

"Sorry, I don't keep them from that far back"

Why not! They're sooo important! I need a copy of the original!

"Why the gently caress didn't you keep it then?"

:haw:

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

MF_James posted:

Client: Why didn't you do it when you said you would in the e-mail?
You: You never confirmed!
Client: But you said you were going to do it... Why didn't you?!?

Asking for "please confirm" in anything 100% guarantees they will never respond. If you want a ticket to get dusty and die off, make a suggestion that may or may not help then ask "please confirm if this helps." Guarantee it's the last time you'll have to work on it.

Slack3r
Feb 20, 2004
This. AR vs HP Laser printer and other assorted PC hardware. AR wins every time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elC3XOkpxLI

7.62 seems to do more damage to printers than .223..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xRH9tCqtHQ

Slack3r fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Apr 30, 2018

Aunt Beth
Feb 24, 2006

Baby, you're ready!
Grimey Drawer

xzzy posted:

Asking for "please confirm" in anything 100% guarantees they will never respond. If you want a ticket to get dusty and die off, make a suggestion that may or may not help then ask "please confirm if this helps." Guarantee it's the last time you'll have to work on it.
Similarly, when I worked for IBM, the #1 way to get our offshore administrators off our backs was to force them into a yes or no question via email. Whatever questionable thing they were trying to bully you into doing would instantly and silently be abandoned the moment they were faced with making a decision on the record.

Coincidentally, IBM is doing just fine, why do you ask?

Aunt Beth fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Apr 30, 2018

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else

Agrikk posted:

In my career, I’ve worked with ravers, the hygienically challenged, ponytail-down-to-the-beltline guys, and your stock button-down nerds.

But I’ve never worked with metalheads or goths and I am sad because of it.

I actually presently work with a metalhead with a huge beard. Live vicariously through me, friend.

Whipstickagostop
Apr 30, 2006

Planet: Xeno Prime
So I've always known that the two Directors for my company can be quite rude when it comes down to paying attention during meetings, but I have never seen it this bad...

They are finally holding interviews to replace the member of staff in the Sales department who quit before Christmas, which is great news as other departments have been under pressure answering sales calls while trying to do their own work.

My office is in the same corridor as our boardroom, but I usually have my door closed and some music playing quietly. I accidentally left the radiator on full last Friday, so I have all the doors and windows open to try and drop the temperature.

In the 30 minutes that they have been in the boardroom, they have stopped the interview 6 times to answer phone calls about :

Turf deliveries for the garden
Horses
Wheel refurbishment on a Porsche
Horses again
Something else I didn't catch as I was on the phone
Horses AGAIN

Speaking from experience, I can guarantee that the interviewee will be asked to repeat what was missed by whichever Director was out of the room at that time.

On top of that, they both have recently installed those Ring movement based cameras - one at his house (which has the turf deliveries and groundworks) and the other at his wife's side business, so every 30 seconds their phones are blasting out a wind chime noise as the app signals the motion detection.

They are wondering why none of the previous candidates have taken them up on the job offer - I sure as hell wouldn't have taken the job if they paid that little attention to my interview...

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Whipstickagostop posted:

Turf deliveries for the garden
Horses
Wheel refurbishment on a Porsche
Horses again
Something else I didn't catch as I was on the phone
Horses AGAIN

I got booted from a conference room once so the owners daughter could look at tile samples or some poo poo for their kitchen remodel

BaronVonVaderham
Jul 31, 2011

All hail the queen!
This piece of poo poo overpriced mac the company gave me against my will has failed to install literally every update it has ever attempted, today to the point that I had to figure out how to reboot into recovery mode and reinstall macOS completely.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


How did you manage that?

BaronVonVaderham
Jul 31, 2011

All hail the queen!
It said "hey there's an update", I said "ok, install that poo poo". It downloaded a thing, attempted to reboot itself and imploded.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


If you're an account contact for customers but you aren't doing much technical work (officespacetwobobs.jpg), I can think of a few ways of getting the right information passed between each party:

1. Pass each email back-and-forth verbatim
2. Introduce the two sides to each other, maybe offer to set up a webex or whatever to talk things through, make sure you're on the call so any commercial stuff can be agreed on
3. Learn enough about what your job is to be able to answer the lower level stuff to make things go smoother

Why do I seem to only ever work with people who choose to do number 4, which is to paraphrase everything coming from me or the customer in a way that totally changes the meaning and neither side realises until the wrong thing gets delivered.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


You're just not a people person.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!



Required date is the date the customer needs the product by.

What's the meeting for? Maybe it's because it means 5 different things for 5 different customers?

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Just put all the information about each job in a free-field text box and then shove dummy data into all the validated fields to get it to submit, imo

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

ratbert90 posted:

Update:

Third party engineering company:

Some bright guys, but even they were super SUPER apprehensive at the scope of the project with a lot of push back. Their initial attitude of "yeah, 6 weeks no problem" turned into "we will get you a estimate." The more info I gave them the more stammering there was.

CEO:
Rambled for several hours, and told me that even though I was hired as a systems engineer, I should be happy with 80K because:
1) That's the salary I negotiated originally (as a systems engineer)
2) You are expected to do the work you are given, and that job responsibilities don't matter when it comes to pay if it's in the same industry. So when I asked him: If you hired a guy to do PHP and then asked him to do low level kernel drivers he should get the original salery? He responded with a yes.

Another fun thing that came out of that situation:
- Positive reinforcement is dumb and you should never expect it.
- Communication issues are always the underlings fault, never management (IE: You should always go to management, management should never have to go to you.)

- Yes, we could have paid you 120k all along, but we decided a new ERP system was more important, and we actually didn't want to pay you 120k.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Did you spend a lot of your time laughing?

LawfulWaffle
Mar 11, 2014

Well, that aligns with the vibes I was getting. Which was, like, "normal" kinda vibes.
My coworker just got off the phone with the supply room. I overheard him say that the supply guy must have a box that say "Xerox fuser" because there's no such thing as a "Xerox phaser" and he proceeded to "explain" that a phaser meant that something would be put out of phase. Then he turned to me and said "they think they have some Star Trek poo poo down stairs."

I had to show him that Xerox Workstations are also (confusingly) referred to as Xerox Phasers. He has been in this position for five years.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


ratbert90 posted:

No raises stuff
You'd be surprised how many places think that way: Never give anyone a raise ever.

When a place shows you that, you should stick with them only until you stop learning new skills or you don't see any way to acquire another skill that will increase your market value. These places end up in a cycle of new people learning their methods and them leaving just when they get everything automated, they then lose that knowledge and someone else has to build it all up again.

Let them burn, that or someone will just be happy with whatever and work there until they die. That will eventually happen on a long enough time scale.

If your new duties pay better on the market do the job for a few months then throw out your resume. It will significantly increase your odds of being hired and the amount you will make if you have actual experience doing it (assuming you do want to do it).

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Thanks Ants posted:

Did you spend a lot of your time laughing?

I think I decided that today was my last day, and that I won't be finishing out my last week.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

LawfulWaffle posted:

I had to show him that Xerox Workstations are also (confusingly) referred to as Xerox Phasers. He has been in this position for five years.

What? I have heard of Xerox (Tektronix) phaser printers...Xerox makes loving workstations?

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe
I realize I'm probably just being excessively naive but it is starting to irritate me when I get calls from recruiters who clearly haven't even glanced at my resume or the job posting they're calling about.

We've got an exciting opportunity for you! It will be a real chance to advance your career! *is two steps down from what I actually do, is night work, or involves maintaining the chicken rear end in a top hat removal machine in Bumfuck, Iowa*

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

tactlessbastard posted:

I realize I'm probably just being excessively naive but it is starting to irritate me when I get calls from recruiters who clearly haven't even glanced at my resume or the job posting they're calling about.

We've got an exciting opportunity for you! It will be a real chance to advance your career! *is two steps down from what I actually do, is night work, or involves maintaining the chicken rear end in a top hat removal machine in Bumfuck, Iowa*

I wear headphones when I work. When I get a recruiter call, I tend to just let them go to voicemail.

Every once in a while I will get multiple calls in a row. When that happens I take the headphones off, put them on my desk, put my phone in between them, and answer the call and go back to work.

Longest I had someone hang on was 2 minutesish.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


I don't want to know how your phone numbers are getting out there with a resume attached.

I've had my number for 10 years and go to great lengths to stop even my current employer from having it.

LawfulWaffle
Mar 11, 2014

Well, that aligns with the vibes I was getting. Which was, like, "normal" kinda vibes.

Bob Morales posted:

What? I have heard of Xerox (Tektronix) phaser printers...Xerox makes loving workstations?

Eh, it looks like I misspoke. They called them a WorkCentre

Myrridinos
Jan 7, 2010

Jaded Burnout posted:

I don't want to know how your phone numbers are getting out there with a resume attached.

I've had my number for 10 years and go to great lengths to stop even my current employer from having it.

I will take and receive calls at work all day long on my desk phone however I generally will not answer my cell unless its a name on my contact list or otherwise expected number.

I refuse to answer a robot spam call which results in a steady stream of that garbage.

Panthrax
Jul 12, 2001
I'm gonna hit you until candy comes out.
I get so many sales calls on both my work line and my personal cell that unless I know the number or I'm expecting the call, it goes to VM. I answer maybe 10% of calls I receive. I've had people/companies/robots call multiple times a week or month and never leave a voice mail. Like, what the hell guys, this is the perfect way to get put on my DND list that never even rings me, let alone gets forwarded to my cell/VM. You want to talk to me? Leave a voicemail!

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer
I use a Burner number for my resumes, so I can just get rid of it at will.

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Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Thanatosian posted:

I use a Burner number for my resumes, so I can just get rid of it at will.

Recruiters, 3 in fact, have somehow got my work skype for business number and have called me in the past 2 weeks. I have used this number on any form on any site. I have no clue how they got it.

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