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sheep-dodger posted:This one really annoys me, as if the only thing that's missing to stop the opioid epidemic was a ban. Also: Who's controlling all three branches of government right now again? Why would it need activists to tell that mysterious party what to do if the solution is so obvious? Are they just really dumb or actually malevolent?  DEEEEEEP STAAAAAAATE The answer is both.
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Ashcans posted:Obviously giving MREs out is too generous, what we should be doing is distributing Plumpy'nut (fortified peanut paste) to people. It's used as a relief food because it requires no prep and is stable for two years, and is edible by all ages (unless you are allergic to peanuts, RIP). It costs $60 delivered for 150 packets, and each packet is 500 calories. Ok, yeah that seems reason- quote:Plumpy'Nut is said to be "surprisingly tasty".[3] What, you think the poors shouldn't have to force down every bite!? No deal. 
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Apr 30, 2018 17:47
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Ashcans posted:The people hating on SNAP and similar programs never seem to process that the money the government gives out is churned directly through the economy. “Any money taken and spent by the government for any purpose is worse than private industry, always!”  *this is what libertarians actually believe
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DreamShipWrecked posted:It amazes me that people still honestly go "steak and lobster" when in reality you can't even buy food with SNAP if it was warmed up first because then it stops being groceries. In a similar vein, I had a fun thread pop up on my facebook that I posted about a while back that started with  s about "illegials getting all the free welfare instead of US citizens and also vets!" and ended up becoming a long back and forth involving bootstraps and welfare queens. It basically ended when the person said "well at the very least we should have time limits on welfare" and was immediately shown that there are in fact time limits on welfare programs.
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Apr 30, 2018 17:52
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nobody who complains about lazy poors on welfare has any idea how welfare works. they just want to complain about lazy poors and are looking for an angle to do it that doesn't make them sound like the heartless monsters they are
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Apr 30, 2018 17:57
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Apr 30, 2018 18:11
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Just one more step for Gerry to admit that he thinks anyone who isn't economically valuable to him should die.
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Apr 30, 2018 18:29
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The Macaroni posted:No because they're buying steak and lobster imported from overseas, except when they're trading their benefits for drug money TEST ALL BENEFIT RECIPIENTS NOW. Which charities does he give to? Also what's the difference between buying fifty 2 dollar steaks or one 100 dollar steak? You get the same amount each month regardless of what you spend it on.
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Charities are a lovely replacement for social services, because there are plenty of things that are not interesting or compelling enough to draw lots of donations, but can make a remarkable difference when they're properly funded. Lots of people want to give money for charismatic or nice-sounding causes, not so many want to give to things that sound dull or boring or help the 'wrong' people. Interestingly, Charities also face this sort of problem internally, in that it is much easier for them to get funding for a large or dramatic project than for daily expenses. Big donors like to donate to projects that has a lot of flash or get their name, like an expansion or a facility, not paying the water bill for the year. You also get situations where a charity is in the news or has some other momentary highlight and will get 10X its donations in a month, and then everyone forgets it again. There are plenty that do great work, but they aren't a real replacement for actual services.
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BarbarianElephant posted:Our boys need prunes! This is no joke. Being in the field either means constipation or making GBS threads your brains out.
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Apr 30, 2018 19:24
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DreamShipWrecked posted:It amazes me that people still honestly go "steak and lobster" when in reality you can't even buy food with SNAP if it was warmed up first because then it stops being groceries. Ahh but you see you can take the money you would otherwise have spent on those groceries and use those for steak and lobster, ergo SNAP finances the undue luxury of the undeserving poor. - Things idiots actually believe.
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Apr 30, 2018 19:41
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Maybe we should, as a society, create a service that would collect charitable contributions from people in a single lump sum, say once a year, and then distribute the contributions as they were needed. We could call it the Institute for Righteous Subsidies.
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Orange Devil posted:Ahh but you see you can take the money you would otherwise have spent on those groceries and use those for steak and lobster, ergo SNAP finances the undue luxury of the undeserving poor. "Money is fungible when paying poors or planned parenthood, but not when it is for a president paying off a porn star"
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Ashcans posted:Charities are a lovely replacement for social services, because there are plenty of things that are not interesting or compelling enough to draw lots of donations, but can make a remarkable difference when they're properly funded. Lots of people want to give money for charismatic or nice-sounding causes, not so many want to give to things that sound dull or boring or help the 'wrong' people. And thanks to people being upset that money they donated for 9/11 relief was used for non-9/11 things, congress passed a law that donations can only be used for their requested purpose instead of the best use the charity finds for them.
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Thump! posted:This is no joke. Being in the field either means constipation or making GBS threads your brains out. I guess morphine and mercury aren't the best things for troop performance though.
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Apr 30, 2018 22:32
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Guavanaut posted:Opium in one hand and calomel in the other was a thing for army surgeons for quite some time. Motrin covers all sins
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Apr 30, 2018 23:02
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Scruff McGruff posted:One of my favorite things is someone posting that picture of someone buying a boatload of lobsters and steak with food stamps because you get to tell them that the picture is specifically from the case that was prosecuting that person for welfare fraud. Not that it's right to really judge what someone is buying with their benefits, but because it's always posted with an assumption that it's from someone bragging about buying all that stuff on the government's dime and not from someone being punished for exactly what the poster wants people to be punished for thus showing that the system already protects against what they're complaining about. How would ol' Gerry feel about moving to Somalia, where the government isn't involved at all? I'm sure he could become a multi-millionaire in no time, given his pluck and courage and pocket full of dreams, and the complete lack of  GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE into his and his loved ones' lives.
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Apr 30, 2018 23:33
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Seppo memes are like, really bad.   
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May 1, 2018 01:55
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TinTower posted:Seppo memes are like, really bad. Right wingers taking advantage of this family's tragedy to make incoherent points about socialized medicine is probably one of the more disgusting conservative talking points I've seen.
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May 1, 2018 01:57
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Didn’t the doctors say something along the lines of: “trying the procedure wouldn’t work and would be cruel to the child to try”?
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May 1, 2018 02:12
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ratbert90 posted:Didn’t the doctors say something along the lines of: “trying the procedure wouldn’t work and would be cruel to the child to try”? The pope himself offered to take the boy at the Vatican hospital but their own doctors rescinded the offer when they felt it wouldnt work anyway. Its a tragedy but it looks like the parents were trying to fight the inevitable. It had nothing to do with socialized medicine, medical technology just isnt far enough.
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May 1, 2018 02:50
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Can't wait until we get prosthetic brains, I'm dumping this ball of crap for a shiny new one preloaded with Wikipedia and Duolingo.
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May 1, 2018 03:33
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RagnarokAngel posted:The pope himself offered to take the boy at the Vatican hospital but their own doctors rescinded the offer when they felt it wouldnt work anyway. It's a case of why doctors need to be very careful about giving false hope. There are thousands of dangerous, painful, experimental procedures you can use for treatment that almost never work, but people will grasp at straws.
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T-man posted:Can't wait until we get prosthetic brains, I'm dumping this ball of crap for a shiny new one preloaded with Wikipedia and Duolingo. lol you're brain is getting tossed in the trashbin and your body will get a barely functioning potato to power it in Zuckerberg's salt mines.
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May 1, 2018 04:27
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RagnarokAngel posted:Its a tragedy but it looks like the parents were trying to fight the inevitable. It had nothing to do with socialized medicine, medical technology just isnt far enough.
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Defenestration posted:
If I recall correctly, the Hooters girls were bringing the protesters something to drink.
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.Edward Penischin posted:If I recall correctly, the Hooters girls were bringing the protesters something to drink. I can't find a story to confirm, but yeah, the original photo had the Hooters women bringing out cups of drinks instead of a snarky sign.
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.Edward Penischin posted:If I recall correctly, the Hooters girls were bringing the protesters something to drink. 
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Defenestration posted:
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RagnarokAngel posted:The pope himself offered to take the boy at the Vatican hospital but their own doctors rescinded the offer when they felt it wouldnt work anyway. From what I remember reading the judgement, the Italian hospital's initial offer was based on a note by a German doctor, stating that air travel could be conducted with negligible risk. During the trial, it turned out that that this doctor had barely seen any of the relevant files and had drawn up a travel plan that was outright faulty and included unsuitable medication. That revelation was apparently the main reason why the hospital in Rome then withdrew the offer again.
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At least by the point that they did the actual review, moving the kid would have been an unacceptable seizure risk. Basically gently caress the Christian Legal Centre and every other vulture who hovered around the family putting a bunch of other kids' lives at risk to make some hot takes about all life being valuable while wanting to further defund healthcare.
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Guavanaut posted:At least by the point that they did the actual review, moving the kid would have been an unacceptable seizure risk. I've also seen some homeopathic people swoop in and say how this is evidence how "mainstream medicine" is evil and murders children for shits and giggles.
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btw the "can't even speak out on social media because the thought police are watching" bit was because some of the protestors were openly discussing pulling fire alarms or calling in bomb threats on the children's hospital, so the police said they'd be keeping an eye on some of the groups. I'm not even sure how you get to the stage where you're planning to evacuate a building full of sick kids on medical equipment or even on the operating table for spurious purposes because 'all life is valuable' and then become convinced you're being unfairly persecuted, but I'm sure it's a wild ride.
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broken britain, cant even threaten drs for weeks on end, call in death threats, or block off access to a childrens hospital for protests any more. makes you sick. I blame foreigners and socialism.
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Going to discuss all the crimes I'm thinking of doing on a public platform. What, now the police are watching the public platform where I'm talking about all these crimes I'm thinking of doing, loving thought police.
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May 1, 2018 11:44
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Guavanaut posted:Going to discuss all the crimes I'm thinking of doing on a public platform. Uhhhh I think you'll find the FIRST AMENDMENT protects anything I as a Briton posts in private on social media! Checkmate socialailures!
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InsertPotPun posted:Which charities does he give to? I get where he's coming from--he's about as close to an actual self-made man as you get (immigrant physician that came from nothing and no money), but if I were in the same situation I'd hope that I'd have more empathy. I'm not in the same situation financially, though I did get a ton of privilege and advantage from his wealth. And I got empathy from somewhere.
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Weatherman posted:Uhhhh I think you'll find the FIRST AMENDMENT protects anything I as a Briton posts in private on social media! Checkmate socialailures! My favorite sub-genre of sovcit are the Canadian and Australian (and probably some British ones though I don't think I've seen any of those yet) ones that use the same script as the US ones so they're citing US Commercial Code sections at the annoyed police officer.
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Guavanaut posted:Going to discuss all the crimes I'm thinking of doing on a public platform. It never ceases to amaze me that people get antsy about the thought police when basically 100% of the times it comes up is people voluntarily screaming their thoughts as loudly as possible.
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OwlFancier posted:It never ceases to amaze me that people get antsy about the thought police when basically 100% of the times it comes up is people voluntarily screaming their thoughts as loudly as possible. It goes hand and hand with their utter terror at being doxxed. In some cases it's legitimate fear (LGBT being the most obvious case), but most of the time they are just afraid of being held responsible for their actions.
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