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SatansBestBuddy posted:Also the movie loves to frame Mogli's knowledge as an active threat against the jungle, even when doing benign stuff like harvesting honey it's pointed out that he's doing stuff that normally wouldn't be possible for the animals of the jungle, but then the movie basically slaps you in the face with that message when the jungle is on fire and everybody looks on at Mogli in fear because he started the fire. But then he stays in the end so I guess it's alright? Really the ending felt like it was just being contrary to the animated version, which is something I can say for most of the differences between the two. The spoilered part owns though. Mowgli in the stories is basically a liminal figure who will never fit in with either humanity or among animals, that's the point.
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The Ayshkerbundy posted:remember when Klasky Csupo did a Jumanji cartoon and had the guy who created Duckman do the character designs
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Ah, I thought I had heard it was KC (plus Everett Peck, the aforementioned character designer, had worked with KC on multiple shows such as Rugrats and his own Duckman) but looking it up you're right
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I loved Jumanji 2 because I am a huge idiot and Jack Black being a teenage girl is hilarious to me. It didn't even need the Jumanji name stapled onto it, it was just a dumb, funny jungle themed adventure.
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Toy Story 2 has all the quality of a saturday morning cartoon show doing an hour long special episode and Toy Story 3's ended with me actively rooting for the complete immolation of the cast.
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Barudak posted:Toy Story 2 has all the quality of a saturday morning cartoon show doing an hour long special episode and Toy Story 3's ended with me actively rooting for the complete immolation of the cast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phFISjORzQs
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If you embrace overanalysis like I do, Toy Story 3 is a lot more fun when you view it as a story about afterlife and religion.
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Toy Story is A+ but Toy Story 2 and Toy Story 3 are merely A
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I think that the biggest leg that Jumanji has over Jumanji 2 is that Jumanji is trying to mimic and improve on Spielberg's style, whereas Jumanji 2 is mimicking a mix of Jumanji and Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (which is admittedly cool as gently caress), rather than going back to the roots of the same thing Jumanji itself was mimicking. I wish Zathura were better than it is, but it is still better than Jumanji 2 (which I sadly must admit is still an okay movie, although some of the gender stuff in it is really weird and offputtingly regressive, though I suppose that in a lot of the country it's probably a step forward - sad!). Apparently they're making a Jumanji 3, which I hope is the first movie in the franchise to be better than its predecessor, though I wouldn't bet on it. Not sure why this is in the animation thread, though. 
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Toy Story 2 is the best Toy Story don't @ me
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Lmao, just lmao, that Woody throws away his shot at fame, comfort, and love to be loyal to someone who doesn't even know he's a person and shitboxes him in a couple years.
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I do wonder what Woody was doing before Andy. Like he's from a very old show so he's a very old toy. Was he also just collecting dust in some old toy store for like 30 years before ending up with Andy? If he belonged to a person you'd think he'd have been used to the whole cycle by now
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The Ayshkerbundy posted:remember when Klasky Csupo did a Jumanji cartoon and had the guy who created Duckman do the character designs That show was insanely ugly
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Macaluso posted:I do wonder what Woody was doing before Andy. Like he's from a very old show so he's a very old toy. Was he also just collecting dust in some old toy store for like 30 years before ending up with Andy? If he belonged to a person you'd think he'd have been used to the whole cycle by now There's a fan theory somewhere that Woody originally belonged to Andy's dad, which could explain why an otherwise unremarkable cowboy doll has so much significance to Andy. Acebuckeye13 fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Apr 29, 2018 |
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:The spoilered part owns though. Mowgli in the stories is basically a liminal figure who will never fit in with either humanity or among animals, that's the point. yeah, the live-action Jungle Book is really a case where I feel like you'll hate it if you're expecting "the cartoon in live-action," and you'll love it if you're expecting "the Kipling stories played basically straight but with some nods to the cartoon here and there" i feel like it's simultaneously the most faithful, most competent, and least horrifically offensive adaptation of Kipling we're ever going to get, and that's worth a bit Acebuckeye13 posted:There's a fan theory somewhere that Woody originally belonged to Andy's dad, which could explain why an otherwise unremarkable cowboy doll has so much significance to Andy. honestly, Woody's not really beat-up enough to be a hand-me-down; he looks to be the same "age" as the other new-ish toys, and they never say in 2 that he's from the original Woody's Roundup line. I always kind of figured he was a revival toy of an old line that Andy's dad got for him out of nostalgia as a toddler or something. sort of like how the original G1 Optimus Prime has been out of production since 1986, but the toy's been reissued with various little tweaks and new accessories (and no major design changes) about 20 times between Takara and Hasbro between then and now, with the former making a loving iPod dock out of the same mold at one point WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Apr 29, 2018 |
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The Kipling stories played straight? Are you high? The only film that ever did that was the Soviet animation, which is admittedly the best, but both Disney versions are leagues from that.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:honestly, Woody's not really beat-up enough to be a hand-me-down; he looks to be the same "age" as the other new-ish toys, and they never say in 2 that he's from the original Woody's Roundup line. I always kind of figured he was a revival toy of an old line that Andy's dad got for him out of nostalgia as a toddler or something. sort of like how the original G1 Optimus Prime has been out of production since 1986, but the toy's been reissued with various little tweaks and new accessories (and no major design changes) about 20 times between Takara and Hasbro between then and now, with the former making a loving iPod dock out of the same mold at one point No one is going to hold up a display at a toy museum for wont of a reissue.
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Pick posted:The Kipling stories played straight? Are you high? The only film that ever did that was the Soviet animation, which is admittedly the best, but both Disney versions are leagues from that. you left out a pretty important word there, which is "basically." it's not exact, but it's as close as a Hollywood movie can reasonably get, especially one that's beholden to the earlier Disney version in any way and one that's trying not to be horrifyingly racist. Pick posted:No one is going to hold up a display at a toy museum for wont of a reissue. i mean... i kind of like the idea that lovely goon toy guy would have just gotten owned by the museum for bringing them a reissue Woody. it makes a nice monkey's-paw twist to the whole deal.
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I thought you all should know that I searched for Jumanji on Netflix and for some reason that turned up the Emoji Movie and then for some reason I actually watched that thing and man, what a waste of good animation and also wow I'm impressed that the plot didn't make sense from the start and then the ultimate climax manage to make it WORSE and in conclusion I hate all of you.
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"Doctor it hurts when I do this."
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Hawkgirl posted:I thought you all should know that I searched for Jumanji on Netflix and for some reason that turned up the Emoji Movie and then for some reason I actually watched that thing and man, what a waste of good animation and also wow I'm impressed that the plot didn't make sense from the start and then the ultimate climax manage to make it WORSE and in conclusion I hate all of you. For reminding me this film exists and that I watched portions of it I hope a meal you order doesn't come with the appropriate sauce packets.
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which is worse bee movie or emoji movie
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Hemingway To Go! posted:which is worse Emoji
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i'm never watching either but the concept of a some rear end in a top hat comedian making a bizarre, awful movie that exposes his personal hangups offends me less than the marketing logic that allowed Emoji Movie to exist
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:i'm never watching either but the concept of a some rear end in a top hat comedian making a bizarre, awful movie that exposes his personal hangups offends me less than the marketing logic that allowed Emoji Movie to exist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbH10o2VTXI I'm someone who is perfectly fine with cliche stuff (I'm a total sucker for the "they hate each other but then by the end they're in love" trope in movies) but this clip alone is like every single cliche thing in any movie for like a solid three minutes. It's astonishing. I would defend Bee Movie over the Emoji Movie any day Macaluso fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Apr 30, 2018 |
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:i'm never watching either but the concept of a some rear end in a top hat comedian making a bizarre, awful movie that exposes his personal hangups offends me less than the marketing logic that allowed Emoji Movie to exist This stirs a memory but I don't remember the details. Can someone remind me what is this about?
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Pick posted:The Kipling stories played straight? Are you high? The only film that ever did that was the Soviet animation, which is admittedly the best, but both Disney versions are leagues from that. The Chuck Jones version of Mowgli’s Brothers is very faithful.  Oh yeah and Riki Tiki Tavi.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:you left out a pretty important word there, which is "basically." it's not exact, but it's as close as a Hollywood movie can reasonably get, especially one that's beholden to the earlier Disney version in any way and one that's trying not to be horrifyingly racist. So, by "the Kipling stories played basically straight" you actually just meant it doesn't have a sense of humor? New Jungle Book has as less in common with the original stories than old Jungle Book, as one would expect of the "serious" remake of an adaptation.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:So, by "the Kipling stories played basically straight" you actually just meant it doesn't have a sense of humor? New Jungle Book has as less in common with the original stories than old Jungle Book, as one would expect of the "serious" remake of an adaptation. okay, let me be as specific and clear as possible about what i meant by that: it tries to carry over the tone, themes, and atmosphere of the Kipling stories and largely succeeds, despite the specific events being a sort of odd hybrid between the originals and the old Disney movie. i don't know how much i have to qualify this statement before y'all stop trying to fishmech it.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:i mean... i kind of like the idea that lovely goon toy guy would have just gotten owned by the museum for bringing them a reissue Woody. it makes a nice monkey's-paw twist to the whole deal. lmbo if you think Big Al doesn't have the exact specs of a first run Sheriff Woody memorized forwards and backwards
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Not getting into how accurate LORD OF BOOTY's comment was or was not, but didn't Disney already do a "more-accurate" live-action Jungle Book adaptation in the early 1990s?
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I enjoyed that film.
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Macaluso posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbH10o2VTXI I almost smiled at the emoticon joke. So much good animation wasted for that though. Yikes.
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Neon Noodle posted:The Chuck Jones version of Mowgli's Brothers is very faithful. Yeah I remember that part in the book where Kipling described Tabaqui as being lime green, kind of a weird choice but I guess the dude did have some hangups about color.  (don't forget The White Seal, that was a faithful adaptation too!) It's been a while since I watched it but I didn't care for new Jungle Book, it just felt really bland to me. Like they wanted to do straight up Kipling but they couldn't commit all the way so you're left with something that tries to be both serious and appealing to children and doesn't really have much to say for itself. The thing that makes the old Soviet animation so good (other than the fact that it's just fuckin gorgeous to watch) is that they didn't shy away from the source material and they didn't dumb the main character down. Mowgli in the books is a crafty little badass. Mowgli in the Disney versions is a clueless kid blundering his way through wacky animal adventures. Anyway, consider: Beemoji Movie
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Squarely Circle posted:Anyway, consider: Beemoji Movie Now, is this the Emoji Movie except all of the emojis are bee emojis, or is it Bee Movie but characters can only communicate through emojis?
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CeallaSo posted:Now, is this the Emoji Movie except all of the emojis are bee emojis, or is it Bee Movie but characters can only communicate through emojis? Yes.
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Spotted at Cinemacon, a movie that is definitely coming out for real you guys
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Crackers_(2017_film) It's not Food Fight, but it is troubled.
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