|
Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Which were then traced over as the Atlas in battletech, yes. I thought you were crazy but the TRO: 3025 Atlas is clearly in the same pose as the Scopedog art. Not very many shared lines but the pose must have been used as a reference.
|
#
?
Apr 30, 2018 23:09
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 9, 2024 10:56 |
|
|
It's only really the case with the original, lovely art.  
|
|
#
?
Apr 30, 2018 23:09
|
|
|
Improbable Lobster posted:It's only really the case with the original, lovely art. Yeah it only just then clicked into place. Thankfully we've come a long way: 
|
|
#
?
Apr 30, 2018 23:11
|
|
|
I just want to reiterate that the original battletech art is comically bad, just the worst
|
|
#
?
Apr 30, 2018 23:17
|
|
|
I'm just amused that the Scopedog was used as the initial art for the toughest mech in the setting.
|
|
#
?
Apr 30, 2018 23:28
|
|
|
My favorite thing about lovely old Battletech art is that Studio Nue got contracted to do the art for the Japanese sourcebook. As a result, we get to see their redesign of FASA's lovely redesign of the VF-1 Valkyrie, which was originally a Studio Nue design to begin with. From:  To:  And then:  You can see the other Studio Nue battletech designs here, they put more thought into the Macross-derived unseens than FASA ever did.
|
|
#
?
Apr 30, 2018 23:50
|
|
|
I know Noin/Wing hasn't been mentioned in a few weeks, but I was just reminded that in the climax of Wing Noin not only fails to even try and stop Zechs from destroying a ship her allies and ostensible friends are on but that she later decides to go with him and when she joins him says that she won't try and stop him but just wants to be by his side in a really dispirited voice, betraying basically everything she did in the series up to that point just so that she can be Zechs' doormat. I remembered that her introduction made her seem weirdly obsessive, but I'd forgotten about that part in the finale and that's just sad. Especially that Quatre seems to know what's happening and think letting her go to do it is a good thing. I really don't understand why people find Noin such a great character. Like, I'd understand if the show was building her up to a regressive end and that played in to the overall themes or arc of her character or something, but I don't recall her having one at all and in Endless Waltz all that is ignored to act like her and Zechs are a nice couple rather than her being majorly dependent on him.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 00:36
|
|
|
She doesn't start actively killing people in that battle so she's still a much better person than Quatre. Noin spends all of Wing trying to fulfil Zechs wishes. Taking care of the Gundam pilots he fetishises and starting up a military unit in Relena's little pacifist nation is all part of that, she never really understands what she's doing beyond wanting senpai to notice her.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 01:18
|
|
|
3 posted:My favorite thing about lovely old Battletech art is that Studio Nue got contracted to do the art for the Japanese sourcebook. As a result, we get to see their redesign of FASA's lovely redesign of the VF-1 Valkyrie, which was originally a Studio Nue design to begin with. The Studio Nue Battletech designs are really loving cool, but the slick, professional aesthetic with all the curved surfaces and rounded edges doesn't really fit with the slow, ponderous, super crunchy and ramshackle feeling of the setting. Their art is way better as art and as designs than any of the early Battletech art but my old Battletech player senses still feel like fat metal babies and chunky dudes fit the setting more.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 01:32
|
|
|
Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Which were then traced over as the Atlas in battletech, yes. Yup. Thankfully the FD redesign makes it look like its own, hulking beast of a robot.  But the original lineart is pretty obviously a silhouette kludge of the scopedog when you line up the art side by side. 
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 02:07
|
|
|
Snooze Cruise posted:Please watch my F91 AMV It’s really good.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 02:08
|
|
|
So, all this talk has gotten me to try to knuckle down on F91 again, and yeah. What a mess. It's also impressive how poor a showing the Federation puts up. You're supposed to wait at least an hour into a crisis before making active plans to use civilians as human shields. It's basic common courtesy.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 04:38
|
|
|
F91 should have been a few OVAs or something. Give events some breathing room.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 04:50
|
|
|
chiasaur11 posted:So, all this talk has gotten me to try to knuckle down on F91 again, and yeah. What a mess. The Federation has a lot of experience in giving up by that point. They have it down to a science.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 04:58
|
|
|
Improbable Lobster posted:F91 should have been a few OVAs or something. Give events some breathing room. I still hold out hope that they decide to do something animated in that time period. While some of the side story comics set around the UC 0100 timeframe are good, for the most part the area is interesting concepts and untapped potential with mostly bungled execution.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 05:05
|
|
|
We'll probably get animated Crossbone at some point, for better or worse, especially since they're already tapping into wells like Hathaway's Flash.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 08:41
|
|
|
Improbable Lobster posted:F91 should have been a few OVAs or something. Give events some breathing room. If I remember right, they made plans not knowing if they'd have OVAs, a full series, or a movie. Which lead to, well, the movie we got. It's interesting how a lot of Tomino Gundam series have one or two moments early on that set up a character, really good economy on display, but here, the first we get of Seabook... really doesn't do much to establish him. I think it was trying to give us a relationship between him and Cecily, but it didn't really feel much like their later interactions. And man there was a lot in the movie that didn't go anywhere. It didn't just have too little time for everything it did. It felt like it spent a lot of the time it did have on tangents that didn't pay off.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 10:00
|
|
|
chiasaur11 posted:If I remember right, they made plans not knowing if they'd have OVAs, a full series, or a movie. Which lead to, well, the movie we got. That's the story I've always heard, yeah. Or that Tomino was originally promised a series and planned accordingly, but for some reason it was cut down to a movie, with a deadline way too short to give him time to retool the story well enough. Not sure how much of that is true, but the final product sure makes it feel true.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 12:14
|
|
|
Mr. Belpit posted:That's the story I've always heard, yeah. Or that Tomino was originally promised a series and planned accordingly, but for some reason it was cut down to a movie, with a deadline way too short to give him time to retool the story well enough. Here’s the full story - chiasaur is right.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 12:21
|
|
|
Raxivace posted:We'll probably get animated Crossbone at some point, for better or worse, especially since they're already tapping into wells like Hathaway's Flash. That'd be really cool because it'd allow maybe a competent artist to do Crossbone, thus fixing its main flaw, and because at this point I've accepted Ghost and onwards will never be translated but an anime would actually get subs.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 15:56
|
|
|
I stole this from Reddit. 
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 20:01
|
|
|
Raxivace posted:We'll probably get animated Crossbone at some point, for better or worse, especially since they're already tapping into wells like Hathaway's Flash. Even without knowing the details of the UC NexT 0100 project, I'd say Crossbone stands a better chance than most mangas or novels of getting animated. Like Hathaway's Flash, it's a Tomino joint. I would not be shocked to see Char's Deleted Affair get the The Origin treatment though. Beyond that you've got poo poo like Johnny Ridden collecting gunpla or video game adaptations with names like We're Feddie Hooligans.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 22:19
|
|
|
Taintrunner posted:I stole this from Reddit. Amuro, Char's neo zeon uniform is stylish as gently caress, you are clearly in the wrong here  .
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 22:20
|
|
|
sure, if your aim is took like a circus ringmaster
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 22:22
|
|
|
chiasaur11 posted:If I remember right, they made plans not knowing if they'd have OVAs, a full series, or a movie. Which lead to, well, the movie we got. Taintrunner posted:I stole this from Reddit. It also lets you do things like this.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 22:28
|
|
|
I'm still kinda amazed that we can get SRW games in english now. I remember playing Alpha 3 a over a decade ago and thinking these games would never, ever get translate.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 22:34
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/56_usan/status/991331162608955392?s=19
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 22:49
|
|
|
What the gently caress did I just watch? Ever increasing combos? Is that a player character in Crossbone? I would love to have an official release of something like that here in the US.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 22:52
|
|
|
SRW V and X have fine to good English TLs, minus some issues here and there with SR points and stuff. You just gotta buy from an import shop.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 22:56
|
|
|
The Notorious ZSB posted:What the gently caress did I just watch? Ever increasing combos? Is that a player character in Crossbone? I would love to have an official release of something like that here in the US. That's Klim Nick in the Crossbones. He's a genius, you know.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 22:58
|
|
|
GMsy Danger.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 23:10
|
|
|
The Notorious ZSB posted:What the gently caress did I just watch? Ever increasing combos? Is that a player character in Crossbone? I would love to have an official release of something like that here in the US.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 23:19
|
|
|
Taintrunner posted:I stole this from Reddit.    ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 23:26 on May 1, 2018 |
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 23:22
|
|
|
AradoBalanga posted:Nope. That's Klim Nick from G-Reco. SRW has always lets characters (usually, the real robots like Gundam) from similar timelines pilot other machines from outside their native series. Since G-Reco is connected to the Universal Century timeline, Klim can get access to stuff like the Gundam X1 Full Cloth (that's the machine in the video). Admittedly, there are limits; if someone doesn't have a Newtype or Cyber Newtype skill, they cannot use stuff like Nu Gundam's fin funnels or Zeta Gundam's biosensor shenanigans. gently caress I have a vacation coming up and I have this game coming to me on Vita I'm so pumped I can finally play this
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 23:29
|
|
|
A goon was on the translation team.
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2018 23:47
|
|
|
HitTheTargets posted:Even without knowing the details of the UC NexT 0100 project, I'd say Crossbone stands a better chance than most mangas or novels of getting animated. Like Hathaway's Flash, it's a Tomino joint. Tomino being the writer of Crossbone has been a persistent note for years but beyond his name being on the front of the volume I don't buy it personally, since nothing about it really seems in line with the story, characters, tone etc. of F91 which Tomino would presumably want to continue or even particularly Tomino in some ways. And every Gundam manga has Tomino's name attributed on the front. It's basically a franchise creator credit thing. Crossbone's credit seems no different in that regard, but it's the one work that people seem to constantly talk about him being involved in in some way. HitTheTargets posted:I would not be shocked to see Char's Deleted Affair get the The Origin treatment though. Beyond that you've got poo poo like Johnny Ridden collecting gunpla or video game adaptations with names like We're Feddie Hooligans. I haven't read it, but I hope not, because Char's Deleted Affair sounds all kinds of stupid. I mostly just hate it though because it seems to be positing that Char and Haman were so bitter because Haman killed someone Char loved and if she'd really done that then Char would be much more personally invested in killing her, while the actual relationship they have in Zeta seems less personal than that and more ideological. It seems like 0083, and inventing a needlessly dramatic backstory for something the original shows involved already cover adequately.
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2018 01:29
|
|
|
I wouldn't mind watching a Return of Johnny Ridden thing
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2018 01:45
|
|
|
I'd like to see more new stuff instead of adaptations.
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2018 01:49
|
|
|
Guy Goodbody posted:I'd like to see more new stuff instead of adaptations. In another franchise I'd agree but there's a lot of stuff in Gundam that is genuinely hard to get and it becomes far easier to get in the international market if it becomes an anime. Hathaway's Flash seems like the most obvious example of that right now.
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2018 01:57
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 9, 2024 10:56 |
|
|
I'm also glad for adaptations because it means we're more likely to get new kits that way. Like there was no way we were gonna get an MG FA Gundam without Thunderbolt getting OVAs, and I'm hoping that we get at least a RE/100 Xi and Penelope from the Hathaway's Flash adaptation.
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2018 02:05
|
|
