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Payday 2 Illuminati confirmed since 25 June 2015.
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May 1, 2018 19:54
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Discendo Vox posted:FWIW, and (I know this is going to sound nuts), almost all the core material now has been planned from before launch. The many added characters, the Butcher and Kento probably weren't, Locke wasn't, and it's possible that the Dentist and the Elephant were originally the same character, but Murkywater, Kataru and the boxes and the alchemy symbols and a bunch of the specific heists? All intended. i wonder if human beings taste good
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May 1, 2018 20:49
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You can toss a white phosphorus grenade into a group of cowed civilians with no greater penalty than a loss of some money and a scolding. Guys I don’t think we’re playing as the heroes.
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May 1, 2018 22:46
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This is all leading up to a final mission where it crosses over to Twisted Metal and we get a final wish
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May 1, 2018 23:50
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HebrewMagic posted:This is all leading up to a final mission where it crosses over to Twisted Metal and we get a final wish and what was Dallas' wish? "LET'S DO IT ALL AGAIN!" for some, the action really is the juice
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May 2, 2018 00:08
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Jimmy wishes for cocaine planet
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May 2, 2018 01:04
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instead jimmy gets a cocaine dwarf star. Calypsooooo! 
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May 2, 2018 01:06
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HebrewMagic posted:This is all leading up to a final mission where it crosses over to Twisted Metal and we get a final wish spit on my clit posted:i wonder if human beings taste good
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May 2, 2018 12:11
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I don't know why old rich guys are in a pissing match over some immortality gubbin when injectors filled with drugs are right there for the taking and let me tell you, it works real good at making you an immortal God King.
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May 2, 2018 14:00
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But what if the Dentist was the ur-Kingpin?
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May 2, 2018 14:12
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Discendo Vox posted:FWIW, and (I know this is going to sound nuts), almost all the core material now has been planned from before launch. The many added characters, the Butcher and Kento probably weren't, Locke wasn't, and it's possible that the Dentist and the Elephant were originally the same character, but Murkywater, Kataru and the boxes and the alchemy symbols and a bunch of the specific heists? All intended. I can see them having the idea of making a conspiracy theory real (the PD: TH secret and Overvault was basically that) but I'm quite sure the storyline has become a lot longer and more involved than they previously intended. After all, they've extended support for the game more than once already.
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May 2, 2018 14:55
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Wastrel_ posted:I can see them having the idea of making a conspiracy theory real (the PD: TH secret and Overvault was basically that) but I'm quite sure the storyline has become a lot longer and more involved than they previously intended. After all, they've extended support for the game more than once already. Yeah I'm not buying that aliens and immortal dudes were part of the plan all along.
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May 2, 2018 16:40
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Mendrian posted:Yeah I'm not buying that aliens and immortal dudes were part of the plan all along. The Yacht heist, the Diamond, the Golden Grin Casino, and a character with the general role of the Dentist, were all planned in advance of release. Word from Overkill_Wordsmith, the writer hired in late 2017 to manage the rest of the plotline, is that Bo Andersson basically had everything written out and only required minor revisions to fit it all together. The Secret stuff was firewalled off from everyone but a couple of the producers. It appears probable that originally there was going to be one box and the Diamond and maybe one additional item before support was extended. Most other content was planned as a sort of "crumple zone" that could be cut or revised depending on how long support went. A lot of the tie-in material was reworked from planned main plotline stuff. For example, Murky Station and probably day 2 of Biker were going to be Elephant jobs hitting Murkywater, and based on leftover code references, it looks like Brooklyn 10-10 was going to be Kataru trying to take out Gage in a gun deal gone bad. It's worth bearing in mind just how long the actual production timeline is on some of this material- resources for Reservoir Dogs (which was, explicitly, for a tie-in with Reservoir Dogs) was briefly leaked within about the first year of production. The devs went absolutely bonkers when people asked them about it, but thankfully no one recognized what they were for. Similarly, it's also become clear that PD2 was designed for VR integration from early development, too. It's why there's location-specific, icon-based interaction points for things like doors. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 18:09 on May 2, 2018 |
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May 2, 2018 18:03
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I mean, considering the metaplot stuff is obviously tying into The Secret in a big way, and we had Bain's Guide at launch...it'd be really stupid to not have this stuff planned out to some extent. Not that it would be out of character for Overkill to do otherwise, admittedly.
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May 2, 2018 18:23
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Someone, right now, in the Overkill office read your post and shouted "oh gently caress, we forgot the guide" while sprinting through the halls slamming Panic Buttons mounted on the walls every fifteen feet
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May 2, 2018 18:25
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I still wanna know how the mind control device from Biker Heist day 2 ties into all of the plot.
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May 2, 2018 18:57
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What about the goats?
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May 2, 2018 19:13
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Goat mind control, duh.
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May 2, 2018 19:20
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Discendo Vox posted:The Yacht heist, the Diamond, the Golden Grin Casino, and a character with the general role of the Dentist, were all planned in advance of release. Word from Overkill_Wordsmith, the writer hired in late 2017 to manage the rest of the plotline, is that Bo Andersson basically had everything written out and only required minor revisions to fit it all together. The Secret stuff was firewalled off from everyone but a couple of the producers. It appears probable that originally there was going to be one box and the Diamond and maybe one additional item before support was extended. Most other content was planned as a sort of "crumple zone" that could be cut or revised depending on how long support went. A lot of the tie-in material was reworked from planned main plotline stuff. For example, Murky Station and probably day 2 of Biker were going to be Elephant jobs hitting Murkywater, and based on leftover code references, it looks like Brooklyn 10-10 was going to be Kataru trying to take out Gage in a gun deal gone bad. Thats great man, and i know you've got inside knowledge, but I just don't believe it. I've seen enough writing to know post-hoc tie ins when I see them and I just can't square "let's rob a 7-11" with "immortal dudes." I totally believe they had some vague outlines for an illuminati thing or something like it but I think the rest of it is looking at the pieces they made and saying, "okay, what can we actually do with this weird stuff?"
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May 2, 2018 19:33
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the increasing stakes in the heists were something that goldfarb got asked about a lot and his response always was that bain was slowly training up the crew for something huge, the biggest heist in history and perhaps for all time. everyone took at as pointless hyperbole at the time because of goldfarb's nonsensical comments about dark souls and so on but there's LOTS of evidence that these elements have been meticulously planned.
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May 2, 2018 20:05
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Kikas posted:I still wanna know how the mind control device from Biker Heist day 2 ties into all of the plot. It appears that the idea was that it was Murky tech for controlling camera drones, like the ones in Murky Station. There were leftover assets for a "drone part" inventory item, as well. It's possible this was originally going to be the justification for the drone cameras we have gotten on a couple heists.
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May 2, 2018 20:19
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Coolguye posted:the increasing stakes in the heists were something that goldfarb got asked about a lot and his response always was that bain was slowly training up the crew for something huge, the biggest heist in history and perhaps for all time. everyone took at as pointless hyperbole at the time because of goldfarb's nonsensical comments about dark souls and so on but there's LOTS of evidence that these elements have been meticulously planned. Lots of evidence, sure. One of the laziest writing tricks is to make a ton of noise and then make sense of it later so that it looks planned, also known as "the Lost method." I won't argue that there have been a ton of little hints but many of them also turned out to be meaningless and I'll believe it was "meticulous" when I see it, is all.
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May 2, 2018 20:21
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Mendrian posted:Lots of evidence, sure. serialized plots can be both planned and improvised at the same time, no one is saying Overkill has a master document with 'and then immortal Gus Fring arrives for crimedad's checkup', we all remember when bonnie was clover, but there's been a thread of weird alchemy bullshit since the pdf guide I paid extra on my pre-order to have, and I'm honestly way happier with illuminati bullshit than the 'quick, add lead, no wait, I mean quicksilver' philosopher's stone poo poo we most likely had coming back then
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May 2, 2018 21:01
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one of the pre-order bonuses of PD2 was that you got bain's "book of secrets" or some poo poo, yeah?...is any of that tying into payday 2 yet or will we have to wait for the heist with the secret or will that whole thing just be scrapped
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May 2, 2018 21:02
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spit on my clit posted:one of the pre-order bonuses of PD2 was that you got bain's "book of secrets" or some poo poo, yeah?...is any of that tying into payday 2 yet or will we have to wait for the heist with the secret or will that whole thing just be scrapped the secret is that it's all three
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May 2, 2018 21:04
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So the Elephant stole the free-energy machine for himself too.... power..... his.... um.... Volcano base? The final battle is in a volcano base isn't it? with Murkys and Gensec and Russian mercs all fighting each other? And then we steal the artifacts and that summons Demons and/or the Arch-copwizard? And we have to break the demon seal with a drill the size of a house?
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May 2, 2018 21:07
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ahhh i need some holy water
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May 2, 2018 21:26
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Dropping a communion wafer!
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May 2, 2018 21:27
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Guys, the communion wine, go get it.
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May 2, 2018 22:21
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Mendrian posted:Lots of evidence, sure. lol bro what would it even take for you to be 'convinced' here, them releasing a full pdf of internal writing notes, fully timestamped? you just keep doubling down on nebulous skepticism no matter how many times people point out that this isn't coming from nowhere and we've known it hasn't been coming from nowhere for a long time. i don't even know what you're talking about with hints that turned out to be meaningless, there's a bunch of people who thought poo poo meant something that they later realized was whatever.
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May 2, 2018 22:30
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There's a placard referencing nergal in the latest heist so we're obviously going to get a crossover with Vermintide
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May 2, 2018 22:35
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Grapplejack posted:There's a placard referencing nergal in the latest heist so we're obviously going to get a crossover with Vermintide Nah, it'll be 40k and Bain will be a tech priest, which explains why he never gets better drills. He found a crappy STC and he's sticking to it 'till we heist a better one. And all the weapon upgrades will be purity seals.
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May 2, 2018 22:49
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Shadowed Bacon posted:So the Elephant stole the free-energy machine for himself too.... power..... his.... um.... Volcano base? The final battle is in a volcano base isn't it? with Murkys and Gensec and Russian mercs all fighting each other? And then we steal the artifacts and that summons Demons and/or the Arch-copwizard? And we have to break the demon seal with a drill the size of a house? I'd love to see Payday go full Bond-villian nuttiness. Payday 3 could even be the Payday gang working for the highest bidder, who just happens to be a US/British/Secret world government agency hiring whoever can stop the villian of the week. It's the Payday gang, they can kill all the goons while we "lower the doomsday laser into the lava pool" Read: steal it for ourselves. Grapplejack posted:There's a placard referencing nergal in the latest heist so we're obviously going to get a crossover with Vermintide Shadowed Bacon posted:Nah, it'll be 40k and Bain will be a tech priest, which explains why he never gets better drills. He found a crappy STC and he's sticking to it 'till we heist a better one. Don't you fuckers go and play with my heart like that. If anything would get me excited about 40k again it'd be a Payday 40k.
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May 2, 2018 23:09
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I would kill three million adeptus arbites if it meant we got a fps Rogue Trader game. Akimbo bolt guns for days.
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May 2, 2018 23:17
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I pre-emptively call the Chaos option as my main
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May 2, 2018 23:18
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Grapplejack posted:There's a placard referencing nergal in the latest heist so we're obviously going to get a crossover with Vermintide Sorry, it's referencing the original Nergal: the Sumerian/Babylonian/Akkadian underworld/death god. Like I said, that big post up there was the short version.
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May 3, 2018 02:57
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it's spelled Nurgle in Warhammer anyway
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May 3, 2018 02:59
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UnknownMercenary posted:But what if the Dentist was the ur-Kingpin? I've perfected the build, time to take out the trash. ArkInBlack fucked around with this message at 03:13 on May 3, 2018 |
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May 3, 2018 03:11
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So what's a good inspire build for Death Sentence/One Down now? I haven't played enough lately to max out either of the two newest perk decks but that won't take long.
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May 3, 2018 03:34
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clockworkjoe posted:So what's a good inspire build for Death Sentence/One Down now? I haven't played enough lately to max out either of the two newest perk decks but that won't take long. Joker skills, particularly with forced friendship aced, continue to be crucial.
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May 3, 2018 04:25
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