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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Yeah with dealerships always negotiate on out the door price otherwise they do that BS I went to a used small-town dealer because there was truly nothing good I could find on CL for my first bike. Offered $2200 for the ex500 (not out the door, just the bike), it was in very clean condition and it was an '07, he balked at that. Told him his price was hilariously high, showed him examples, showed him the NADAguides value. Offered $2500 out the door (was $3000 + taxes fees originally). He took it. The invoice had $300-something in fees/taxes/things, and $21xx for the bike.  edit: it probably helped that I'd been looking at that bike for 7 months on their website, and 95% of their business were used harleys, busas, and gixxers. spouse fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Apr 16, 2018 |
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Another goon ate it on gravel there this weekend without being an idiot. So yeah, it's hella dumb to go in blind turns like that.
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 It's loving April, and I've still got all my winter gear because on Monday it was 10 degrees.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:
gently caress you it's mid 20s there now and English April Summer is in full effect and I still haven't seen double digit temps* here since last loving year. *that's positive loving temps
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Finger Prince posted:gently caress you it's mid 20s there now and English April Summer is in full effect and I still haven't seen double digit temps* here since last loving year. The official high was 24, but I live in the dystopian urban hellscape that is E14, with it's ridiculous microclimate, so it was loving stupid hot.
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Apr 19, 2018 22:02
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At least it wasn't raining as well as hot, like it will be in a few months! 
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My pop just got an Ultra and is pressing me hard to buy his Road King. I don't need money anyways.
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I’d own the gently caress out of a Road King at the right price, especially if it wasn’t my only bike.
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Quite A Tool posted:I’d own the gently caress out of a Road King at the right price, especially if it wasn’t my only bike. It must be amazing having a bike where you can jump on, fire it up and decide to go for a ride to the other end of the country... ...and not having the immense disappiontment in yourself as a human being that comes with that bike being a goldwing.
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Slavvy posted:It must be amazing having a bike where you can jump on, fire it up and decide to go for a ride to the other end of the country... I chuckled. I'd own a goldwing. Those rolling couches (Ultras, too) are amazing in their own right.
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I've given some thought to the idea of renting a Gold Wing Tour so the girlfriend and I could go riding for a few days, as a way to see what a rolling couch was like. I was just looking at the specs and they only hold 5.5 gallons of fuel. I dunno what I expected, but it was more than that.
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20L is a shitload though? Keep in mind if you ride a goldwing as intended, the fuel mileage is like double what a harley big twin can manage.
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Slavvy posted:20L is a shitload though? I guess I had this mental association between the size of the bike and expecting something like a 7 gallon fuel tank. It looks like 40 mpg is the reported average rolling down the highway, so that's better than 200 miles which is nice.
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I would love to ride one. I know they're pigs, but drat I bet when you pin the throttle on the highway it's like a goddamn freight train.
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In my limited experience the only thing the big tourers like a Goldwing have over the larger sport touring rides like the FJR/Concours/BMW KGT is passenger comfort and a little more fuel and/or luggage capacity. And, specific to the pre-2018 Goldwings, a fuckload of buttons and switches around the dash that you'd never use. There's a reason so many Iron Butt riders go with those bikes over Goldwings or Ultras. I see old dudes riding Goldwings by themselves and wonder why they'd deal with an 800lb beast around town for solo riding when some bar risers and lower pegs would make an FJR just as comfortable (actually sold my FJR to an old dude with an Ultra who had the same idea).
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Jazzzzz posted:In my limited experience the only thing the big tourers like a Goldwing have over the larger sport touring rides like the FJR/Concours/BMW KGT is passenger comfort and a little more fuel and/or luggage capacity. Well, that and 500cc and two cylinders. That's the thing that I'm most curious about with the Gold Wing is that 1800cc flat six.
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Jazzzzz posted:In my limited experience the only thing the big tourers like a Goldwing have over the larger sport touring rides like the FJR/Concours/BMW KGT is passenger comfort and a little more fuel and/or luggage capacity. And, specific to the pre-2018 Goldwings, a fuckload of buttons and switches around the dash that you'd never use. It's cause old people only ride what other old people tell them to. There's an entire magazine dedicated to being old and having a goldwing.
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captainOrbital posted:Well, that and 500cc and two cylinders. The Wing has a little less hp, way more torques, but is carrying around another ~200lbs too. K1600GT is the middle ground motor and power-wise between the examples I was using. It all comes down to personal preference, but riding the previous-gen GL1800 felt like piloting a barn to me. The new one is way smaller in person but I haven't ridden one.
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Naked goldwings definitely do it for me.
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One great thing about Wings is how smooth the engine is, it's like an electric motor even at WOT
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The beauty of perfect balance. I'm told the I6 BMW is quite similar but with a lot more zing.
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Pulled the Hawk GT I sold Coydog off my insurance today and my annual premium went UP $40. "You lost your multiple bike discount" "I still have two bikes on that policy" "Call your local agent" Must be time to go insurance shopping again.
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tell em you changed your mind and got the bike back
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nsaP posted:tell em you changed your mind and got the bike back eh they're trying to jack my home insurance rates too, so it's probably a good time to go talk to Jake from State Farm
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Insurance has gone all over the place for me over the last 6 months, with every company stating that the risk pool for our area is now higher for some weird reason. I’m talking Geico going from asking for $89 a month for a car to $130. State Farm pulled the same poo poo, raising the rate by 15% over 6 months with no change in driver history.  I’ve got the feeling some CEOs are looking at the historically “business friendly” political parties in charge so they’re figuring it’s the best chance they have at just screwing people and getting away with it. Even if we were to figure out companies are colluding in our areas, what the hell can we do about it? That said, Progressive still thinks the Zero motorcycle is “1 cc” in displacement after I exhaustedly explained over the phone that there is no gasoline motor in the bike, so their risk pool calculation is all hosed up and offering me $120 a year for full coverage. 
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That is very good to know, I’m shopping for an fxs in the near future
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I just got back in town from a trip, get on my bike, start it up, and it vomits coolant everywhere. The outlet from the radiator is broken off from the housing and the radiator stay (a horizontal mount at the top of the radiator that connects the rad to the bike) is broken in half. No sign of any other damage. It was parked on a public street. It doesn't look like the bike fell over or was hit. What the gently caress?! The damage is in between the cost of my comp and collision deductibles so I am torn on making a claim. I could replace the rad myself for under $400 but that's only assuming the fans are OK and nothing else was damaged. I have no clue how this happened.
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Ripoff posted:Insurance has gone all over the place for me over the last 6 months, with every company stating that the risk pool for our area is now higher for some weird reason. I’m talking Geico going from asking for $89 a month for a car to $130. State Farm pulled the same poo poo, raising the rate by 15% over 6 months with no change in driver history. i'm confused are you saying you did something like correct them on that?
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Razzled posted:i'm confused are you saying you did something like correct them on that? Progressive kept asking about the size of the engine in CC’s so I told them it’s fully electric, so I think they just assigned it a “size” of 1 cc and that may have messed up their risk pool formula. They have the VIN and everything so I have no idea why they can’t have their adjusters and risk analysts do a 5-minute google search to add a line in their systems. The person on the phone seemed genuinely confused but they got the VIN perfect, so I have no idea what’s going on there. A MIRACLE posted:That is very good to know, I’m shopping for an fxs in the near future It’s a good bike, and Zero is crazy about pushing dealers to let folks go for a test ride.
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"What's the bike called?" "Zero. " "Ok. How many cc's?" "Zero. "
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Tyro posted:I just got back in town from a trip, get on my bike, start it up, and it vomits coolant everywhere. The outlet from the radiator is broken off from the housing and the radiator stay (a horizontal mount at the top of the radiator that connects the rad to the bike) is broken in half. No sign of any other damage. It was parked on a public street. It doesn't look like the bike fell over or was hit. What the gently caress?! Post a pic. Bunch of my friends have used the ebay rads on anything from racebike to tourer and been fine. Also wouldn’t really ever make a claim for anything that’s not an mva.
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M42 posted:Post a pic. Bunch of my friends have used the ebay rads on anything from racebike to tourer and been fine. Also wouldn’t really ever make a claim for anything that’s not an mva. Thanks. Yeah I could definitely fix it myself on the cheap as long as there's no hidden damage, that possibility is the only thing that had me even thinking about insurance. I had what I thought was a minor crash a long time ago and then discovered frame damage, so I'm a bit cautious there. In the first pic you can see the radiator is slightly bent. The second shows the broken fitting on the other side.  
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Oh hey VA buddy! Yeah that's a bizarre spot for it to break, even if dropped, since it's not sticking out to the side... I say just throw an ebay rad on honestly
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M42 posted:Oh hey VA buddy! Yeah that's a bizarre spot for it to break, even if dropped, since it's not sticking out to the side... I say just throw an ebay rad on honestly Yeah it almost makes me wonder if it was vandalism.
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I have never purchased a bike new from a dealer. I decided to do some price shopping at the local dealer and then CycleTrader for a 2017 FZ09, because I really like that bike and am probably going to sell my Multistrada in the next few weeks. Local dealer has the bike listed for $7699, including the $750 rebate from Yahama. Initial price they gave me out the door is just shy of $9K, told them I had to do some comparisons and would let them know. Go home, fire up Chrome, and find another dealer 5 hours away that has a 2017 FZ09 listed on CycleTrader for $7085, including the rebate. Out the door = $8483.18, INCLUDING TAX - breaks down to 450 for freight, 289 assembly (BS fee), 159 doc fee, 15 title + temp tag, and the remainder is tax. Sales guy on the phone was honest and easy to deal with, and if he were local I probably would've picked up the bike today. Just for grins, I searched nationwide on CycleTrader and found a bike in Temecula,CA that's listed for $5999. OK - even if I pay $600 in shipping this will still probably put me ahead of the game. Call to get an out the door price, guy says he'll call me back - 3 hours later, he calls with the out the door price at $7839 (keep in mind there's no tax in that figure b/c I'm out of state). Wouldn't break the extra $1839 down. 25% in bullshit dealer fees? Sure, why not. What is it about vehicle dealers, car or bike/powersports, that requires such douchebaggery? Enough with the BS, just mark the poo poo with a reasonable out the door price right up front and set yourself up for return visits from the customer to the parts and service department where you make your money anyway. Also, if anyone is interested, there's a dealer just outside St. Louis (Holzhauer) blowing out 2016 XSR900s for $6757 out the door before sales tax. They have 3 left on the floor but they'll only hold one for 48 hours and make it damned near impossible to deal with them if you can't get to the dealership.
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Yeah I just posted recently about a friend trying to buy a $5000 fz07 but the dealer wanting to add $2500 in fees. It's good though, it keeps me from ever doing something like buying a brand new bike.
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pokie posted:TBH, I think all prices should be listed with tax etc. Anything else seems like a deceptive practice at best. It is. Curiously here in AU every sale on any goods or services that includes our equivalent of sales tax (GST) has to have the GST included in the declared up front price, but bike/car dealers still pull that poo poo with registration and other dealer fees.
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