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Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:It all happened. Mueller got copies of Hillary Clinton's adrenochrome pizza emails and Peter Strzok's Trump assassination texts from Michael Cohen's .iso of Anthony Weiner's laptop, but the public isn't ready to hear the truth yet. It would blow their tiny sheeple minds. So for the moment Trump's just focusing on peace in Korea now that the CIA no longer controls Kim Jong-Un. Don't forget that HRC Prime may or may not have been killed in an FBI raid
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Potato Salad posted:Don't forget that HRC Prime may or may not have been killed in an FBI raid She running right for us!
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Feinne posted:I mean they do it with their own religion so it's not a surprise they'll do it with some rando poo poo too. They conflate 'demons' who are enemies of god with Satan, who is a dude employed by god to test people's faith. Yea, the whole Fall stuff is from Apocrypha that was reinserted into doctrine to explain why bad things happen with an all powerful and all loving god. Then Milton and Dante picks it up and that becomes the template that pop culture images of Satan and the devil. You know the world QAnon presents is very similar to what the tabloids were saying last year. Constant cover stories about how Hillary has been arrested (one had "Hillary's first day in federal prison!) and that the crimes of the Clintons, Obamas, Kennedys and basically everyone even slightly to the left of Hitler will be exposed and arrested. How Trump single handedly ended the Deep State Threats and secretly put Putin in a choke hold and had him give up Hillary. Though I think the Satanic Cannibal stuff is too much more supermarket tabloids.
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twistedmentat posted:Yea, the whole Fall stuff is from Apocrypha that was reinserted into doctrine to explain why bad things happen with an all powerful and all loving god. Then Milton and Dante picks it up and that becomes the template that pop culture images of Satan and the devil. If one goes back to early Christianity the demonic and the angelic is much more along the lines of ideas that have reality, in the sense of Neo-platonism. Origen's cosmology is a good example to look at.
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I particularly like this thread because, as far as all-encompassing Q theories goes, it’s actually kind of tame https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8gvt4f/qthe_calm_before_the_stormstormy_danielsthe_great/ TL;DR The Stormy Daniels fiasco is a bit of theatrical misdirection by Trump in order to secretly end the federal reserve and get the US back onto the gold standard Time Crisis Actor fucked around with this message at 19:00 on May 4, 2018 |
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It's always the gold standard. I saw a graffiti removal guy cleaning some that said "google Qanon" near me. Great they're local now.
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May 4, 2018 19:06
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twistedmentat posted:It's always the gold standard. The thing is the political party in power keeps winking and nudging at the Qanon poo poo so it’s gonna spread faster then other conspiracy bullshit. Like imagine if during Obama’s presidency and while the democrats held majority they started to winkk and nod to 9/11 inside job bullshit. It would’ve fed the flame and you’d have a lot of people suddenly jumping on to that. It’s just the conspiracy the GOP is stoking happens to be one in which Democrats are running a shadowy cabal of Jewish-pedophile-satanists new world order Deep State crap and it’s going to lead to some violent people getting indoctrinated in this stuff that are going to get innocent people hurt. Hell we almost saw it when the GOP was toying with that pizzagate stuff and someone marched in there with a gun. The more they legitimize Qanon stuff the more likely someone’s going to attack a “Deep State” target
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May 4, 2018 19:34
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I bet some people in trumps inner circle probably believe the Q stuff genuinely.
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twistedmentat posted:It's always the gold standard. Why exactly do people fetishize the gold standard?
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May 5, 2018 03:32
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They don't understand monetary policy and gold is shiny.
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Renaissance Spam posted:Why exactly do people fetishize the gold standard? People miss when $10 could top off their gas tanks from empty and desperately want those days back. Also, a fundamental failure to understand why literally every advanced economy in the world switched to fiat sooner or later. And that slight inflation tends to be actually good for the average consumer and bad for rich people due to its tendency to devalue debt, and that deflation tends to be the opposite. Unless they have just enough self-awareness to immediately pull a "temporarily embarrassed millionaire" tack.
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Kerning Chameleon posted:People miss when $10 could top off their gas tanks from empty and desperately want those days back. I think part of it is also not liking the idea that money is just an ephemeral thing that isn't really WORTH anything except because the government says so. Along with an underlying distrust of the government in general. I'd be willing to bet that there's a lot of overlap between gold standard types and qanoners.
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MANime in the sheets posted:I think part of it is also not liking the idea that money is just an ephemeral thing that isn't really WORTH anything except because the government says so. Along with an underlying distrust of the government in general. I'd be willing to bet that there's a lot of overlap between gold standard types and qanoners. But we stamped IN GOD WE TRUST on it, what more do they want?
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I mean, have you yet to meet a freep or libertarian with an even passably sophisticated internal model of The Way It (government) Is?
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MANime in the sheets posted:I think part of it is also not liking the idea that money is just an ephemeral thing that isn't really WORTH anything Unlike gold.
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Kerning Chameleon posted:And that slight inflation tends to be actually good for the average consumer and bad for rich people due to its tendency to devalue debt, and that deflation tends to be the opposite. But I used to be able to buy a new car for 15,000 dollars and now it costs 30,000 dollars therefore inflation is clearly bad and hurts consumers. Just ignore the part where wages have horribly lagged behind inflation. OwlFancier posted:Unlike gold. Gold and bitcoin have intrinsic value, unlike water and food.
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OwlFancier posted:Unlike gold. No you see, gold is a physical tangible thing that is WORTH something. They just never finish that thought with 'because people all agreed it is, just like fiat currency.
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Yea, gold fetishes don't seem to understand gold is only worth something because we say it is. It doesn't have a lot of uses outside of electronics and other applications. you can't make a knife or a pot out of it and be useful, so having stockpiles of it when things go all Fallout/Mad Max it won't do you poo poo. But the conspiracy crowd has been hustling gold since the start, and that really pisses me off because all the gold sellers they pimp for aren't actually selling gold. You don't get 5k worth of Krugerans when you buy into it, you get a certificate saying that you own x amount of gold that's kept in a secure location. Good luck getting to it when the world is ending. I feel like its actually in part it's something the government has told you that you can't own, and also how gold has always been a symbol of wealth. All those sheep out there with their fiat money and credit cards, I have my entire life savings in gold. In a secure location 5 states away. Bip Roberts posted:I bet some people in trumps inner circle probably believe the Q stuff genuinely. I'd not be surprised Trump believes it too. That he is honestly dismantling some giant Democratic Satanic Pedophile Cannibal network by being the bestest Donny he can be, yes he is!
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That people go along with this alwasys suprises me. If I (entirely hypothetically) bought 5K of Gold, I'd want it in my possession, not 'Oh it's in a vault somewhere, but here's your certificate of ownership'. Am I correct when I assume oversight is minimal on these businesses, and they regularly go bust or sell the same gold to 6 different suckers.
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Deptfordx posted:That people go along with this alwasys suprises me. If I (entirely hypothetically) bought 5K of Gold, I'd want it in my possession, not 'Oh it's in a vault somewhere, but here's your certificate of ownership'. Not just that, but the certificate is actually less valuable than the equivalent amount of fiat, because it's not going to be easy exchanging it for goods and services.
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Fiat is just an IOU, but this certificate is a promise to give me a certain amount of gold whenever I ask for it.
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MANime in the sheets posted:Not just that, but the certificate is actually less valuable than the equivalent amount of fiat, because it's not going to be easy exchanging it for goods and services. Yea, it's not unlike bitcoin. Though you can find places online that you can spend bitcoin.
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Deptfordx posted:That people go along with this alwasys suprises me. If I (entirely hypothetically) bought 5K of Gold, I'd want it in my possession, not 'Oh it's in a vault somewhere, but here's your certificate of ownership'. It really seems like the target market for that kind of thing is exactly the same crowd that doesn't want THE GOVERNMENT telling you this guy selling gold does not, in fact, have any gold and sold you a worthless piece of paper and that merely being advertised during your favorite talk radio show does not imply any degree of trustworthiness or legitimacy comparable to any traditional financial instrument subject to things like "laws" or "regulations".
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Deptfordx posted:Am I correct when I assume oversight is minimal on these businesses, and they regularly go bust or sell the same gold to 6 different suckers. I had a quick look and the only thing I could find on the FTC site was a warning to google the company name before buying anything to see if other buyers had made any complaints about them. It does not appear that there is any regulation at all over them. quote:- Some sellers deliver bullion or bars to a secured facility rather than to a consumer. When you buy metals without taking delivery, take extra precautions to ensure that the metal exists, is of the quality described, and is properly insured.
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I think it might be an industry where you don't even have to scam them (although I'm sure some still do). Pretty sure that these companies, at least a while ago, just charged a crazy markup on the gold compared to what it was worth on the market. Anyone looking to buy physical gold is by definition not savvy, so I'm sure they slap on whatever fees and markups they want.
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And their customer base will fight tooth and nail against any and all kinds of consumer protection regulation that was proposed as "GUVMINT TIRUNY KEEPIN ME FROM MAH GOLD!", so there isn't even an incentive for anyone to even try to regulate it.
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Wait, was that the same kid that she ripped their face off and wore it as a mask? I can't keep track of these videos of Clinton.
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These have been popping up all over my area. This particular set didn't have "GOOGLE QANON" but the ones on the trashcan at my Wawa have that and #podestapizzaparty
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The fact the pizzagate thing is still a thing after the key component of it, a basement at this pizza place, didn’t exist because the pizza joint physically doesn’t have a basement cements Qanon and Pizzagate people as the most out of touch conspiracy people. Other conspiracy stuff ties into stuff that actually exists with their insane theories but you have to ignore literal physical existence to believe in Qanon and Pizzagate because they both hinge on a secret ring of Satan pedophiles that have met in a location that is physically impossible 
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Dr. VooDoo posted:The fact the pizzagate thing is still a thing after the key component of it, a basement at this pizza place, didn’t exist because the pizza joint physically doesn’t have a basement cements Qanon and Pizzagate people as the most out of touch conspiracy people. Other conspiracy stuff ties into stuff that actually exists with their insane theories but you have to ignore literal physical existence to believe in Qanon and Pizzagate because they both hinge on a secret ring of Satan pedophiles that have met in a location that is physically impossible The ability for large scale ignorance of physical reality is one of the special gifts bestowed by the information age.
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Dr. VooDoo posted:The fact the pizzagate thing is still a thing after the key component of it, a basement at this pizza place, didn’t exist because the pizza joint physically doesn’t have a basement cements Qanon and Pizzagate people as the most out of touch conspiracy people. Other conspiracy stuff ties into stuff that actually exists with their insane theories but you have to ignore literal physical existence to believe in Qanon and Pizzagate because they both hinge on a secret ring of Satan pedophiles that have met in a location that is physically impossible "They're just SAYING it doesn't exist! Have you been there? Of course not. WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!" is the obvious response they'd put forward. Why do you think that people they say are all liars telling them something would make them reconsider anything?
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Dr. VooDoo posted:The fact the pizzagate thing is still a thing after the key component of it, a basement at this pizza place, didn’t exist because the pizza joint physically doesn’t have a basement cements Qanon and Pizzagate people as the most out of touch conspiracy people. Other conspiracy stuff ties into stuff that actually exists with their insane theories but you have to ignore literal physical existence to believe in Qanon and Pizzagate because they both hinge on a secret ring of Satan pedophiles that have met in a location that is physically impossible It's weird, but we have records of this exact same phenomenon happening. In the McMartin Preschool trial - the thing that kicked off the Satanic Panic of the 80's - a big deal was made out of the supposedly-secret tunnels that went underneath the preschool, where they alleged that the teachers were killing/dismembering/raping students secretly. Of course, no tunnels were found - they found what appeared to be an old hollowed-out trash pit, but nothing resembling a tunnel. But, the conspiracy required there to be tunnels, so the kids could be whisked away to remote locations for abuse, including the homes of famous celebrities and politicians. So, to this very day, you have people saying that, no, the tunnels are REAL, and anyone who says otherwise was in on the cover-up! It seems like people who buy into Satanic Panic conspiracies just inherently need there to be basements and tunnels involved. Most of the tropes of the old Satanic Panic are coming back full force with Pizzagate and Qanon, they're just buried beneath all of the Pepes and confusing charts.
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:It seems like people who buy into Satanic Panic conspiracies just inherently need there to be basements and tunnels involved. Hell is underground. Therefore, evil deeds need to be committed underground.
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The fantastical narrative used as the basis of conspiracy theories isn't immune to common fiction tropes and cliches. Like bad things happen in dark places underground, hence basements and sewers, ideally with literal chains and cages hanging around like a BDSM dungeon in the former case, and ample space to perform all sorts of heinous acts in the latter. This isn't even all that uncommon among non-crazy people and is likely a byproduct of entertainment increasingly becoming the lens through which most people interpret the world.
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Fojar38 posted:The fantastical narrative used as the basis of conspiracy theories isn't immune to common fiction tropes and cliches. Having been to a BDSM dungeon, they're comically benign. You've got hardcore metal playing in the background constantly and the sounds of moaning and screaming and crying...and then there's a completely naked dude standing in a corner with a cup of water from the cooler, chatting with someone else. And in the back is a girl sleeping on a couch wrapped up in a blanket because she's tuckered out from getting whipped for an hour. People are casually talking as they observe horrifically filthy acts and wait their turn on the equipment. It's like a gym for sex instead of exercise.
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Rape Stink posted:These have been popping up all over my area. This particular set didn't have "GOOGLE QANON" but the ones on the trashcan at my Wawa have that and #podestapizzaparty Huh, the only sticker I’ve seen around here was one from the flat earthers. Same style though, plain white rectangle with bold black text. Must be a crazy conspiracy template that they all use.
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chitoryu12 posted:Having been to a BDSM dungeon, they're comically benign. You've got hardcore metal playing in the background constantly and the sounds of moaning and screaming and crying...and then there's a completely naked dude standing in a corner with a cup of water from the cooler, chatting with someone else. And in the back is a girl sleeping on a couch wrapped up in a blanket because she's tuckered out from getting whipped for an hour. People are casually talking as they observe horrifically filthy acts and wait their turn on the equipment. As someone who was in a toxic relationship with a sexual sadist, the ability to stop the entire thing at any time makes a fuckload of difference to your feelings towards a bondage dungeon.
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Frankly, I'm unimpressed by the quality of their scholarship. Rituals are performed skyclad under the full moon on top of the tallest available building. The Conspiracy likes to be brazen etc. and tunnels, basements, or sex caves are declasse. Sex labyrinths are totally real though. Beware the sexy manotaur!
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