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TheScott2K posted:Microsoft's console has been out for 4 years and nobody's running pirated games on it Yeah. They're pirating the PC ports. Duh.
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It was pretty cool that a lot of indie games were able to get a second life on the Switch. It's a shame piracy is going to gently caress that up too.
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May 2, 2018 13:06
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I don't think it will be a major issue. It sounds like a huge hassle, you gotta put on a thing and load a bunch of poo poo from USB every single time you want to boot up in the mode where you can do that stuff. It goes completely against why you would want to play any of those games on the switch in the first place.
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May 2, 2018 13:11
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im going to buy my games legit on the Switch unless they don't give me the option like, if you give me the option to buy an indie game, I buy it if you give me the option to buy LttP, I buy it if you don't, then im putting loving LttP on my switch and im playing it god drat it nintendo
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May 2, 2018 13:13
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eonwe posted:im going to buy my games legit on the Switch unless they don't give me the option Why would you want to play LttP when ALBW is superior in all ways.
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May 2, 2018 13:15
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"Oh, you wanted me to pay for your games? Well, maybe the platform holder should have re-re-re-released a game I already have six copies of, not counting the portable GBA port I have three copies of.  "
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May 2, 2018 13:16
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eonwe posted:im going to buy my games legit on the Switch unless they don't give me the option yeah, what the gently caress, why did Nintendo make it so hard to play Link to the Past?! 
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May 2, 2018 13:17
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:Why would you want to play LttP when ALBW is superior in all ways. both good
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May 2, 2018 13:17
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Guy Goodbody posted:yeah, what the gently caress, why did Nintendo make it so hard to play Link to the Past?! those aren't the Nintendo Switch, the console i am now playing, and would like to carry around with me and play my games of choice on
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May 2, 2018 13:18
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:Why would you want to play LttP when ALBW is superior in all ways. Cause you probably can't emulate ALBW on the Switch (But if you could, hoo boy)
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May 2, 2018 13:20
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:Why would you want to play LttP when ALBW is superior in all ways. There isn't ALBW Randomizer.
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May 2, 2018 14:03
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Guy Goodbody posted:It was pretty cool that a lot of indie games were able to get a second life on the Switch. It's a shame piracy is going to gently caress that up too. Do you mean like how the 3DS was killed off by its massive homebrew scene, causing Nintendo to prematurely stop making games for it? You should try reading your posts out loud sometimes, this is like the fifth time you've complained about the Big Bad Hackers. We get it
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May 2, 2018 14:07
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KingSlime posted:Do you mean like how the 3DS was killed off by its massive homebrew scene, causing Nintendo to prematurely stop making games for it? 3DS piracy was way harder to do than it seems like Switch piracy will be. Plus the specific thing I'm talking about, Indie ports, is different. Looking at the way people in this thread justify their piracy, I assume a lot of them will also be like, "I already bought a copy of *3 year old indie game*, why should I have to pay for it again to play it on the Switch when I can just 'homebrew' it?" which will negatively effect the sales of Indie ports in the future. Which is a shame. You should try not being how you are
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May 2, 2018 14:11
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Guy Goodbody posted:3DS piracy was way harder to do than it seems like Switch piracy will be. Plus the specific thing I'm talking about, Indie ports, is different. Looking at the way people in this thread justify their piracy, I assume a lot of them will also be like, "I already bought a copy of *3 year old indie game*, why should I have to pay for it again to play it on the Switch when I can just 'homebrew' it?" which will negatively effect the sales of Indie ports in the future. Which is a shame. Oh gently caress, I didn't think about that. Yeah, there's going to be a poo poo ton of "I bought this for 99 cents on Steam. They already got my money."
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May 2, 2018 14:12
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The Kins posted:"Oh, you wanted me to pay for your games? Well, maybe the platform holder should have re-re-re-released a game I already have six copies of, not counting the portable GBA port I have three copies of. this seems reasonable imo
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May 2, 2018 14:14
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i just want yoshi's island and viewtiful joe on switch! i already bought them in 1976 so its cool pirates do what nintendon't
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May 2, 2018 14:15
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Jusging by how anti-piracy people are lately for some reason I doubt its going to be an issue. Personally a better UI and emulation potential would be dope
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May 2, 2018 14:20
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Guy Goodbody posted:3DS piracy was way harder to do than it seems like Switch piracy will be. Nah, Browserhax and the later stuff was really, really easy, as was Freeshop.
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May 2, 2018 14:25
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If you can pirate a brand new release game with 0 impunity, you can bet your arse most people will do so regardless of what moral high ground they choose to put forward on the internet. Emulators are to be expected, but what everyone really wants to ask is if they can pirate Switch games with this hack.
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May 2, 2018 14:27
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Infinitum posted:If you can pirate a brand new release game with 0 impunity, you can bet your arse most people will do so regardless of what moral high ground they choose to put forward on the internet. No most people won't. Most people won't ever even bother or even be aware of it.
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May 2, 2018 14:30
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I'm just worried about cheating. People have datamined the hell out of Splatoon 2 at this point and the word is that it literally has zero anti-cheat protection built into it lol
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May 2, 2018 14:31
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:No most people won't. Most people won't ever even bother or even be aware of it. Rephrase: most people who are aware that a paperclip is all you need for free games 
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May 2, 2018 14:33
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My only real question is what Nintendo's response is going to be. They could detect if people are going online with cracked Switches, but what do they do then? Do they ban them outright? If they did that, they could turn someone who is just running emulator software into somebody who's now pirating new first party games because they can't buy them legit anymore. Do they tolerate it? That person could already be pirating first party games and could also be cheating online, driving people away from the online service. I would assume at the very least they're going to do a hardware recall and revision.
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May 2, 2018 14:33
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Infinitum posted:Rephrase: most people who are aware that a paperclip is all you need for free games It's not though. Aside from the paper clip you have to do a whole bunch of work installing poo poo and getting the files you want and following step by step instructions, and on top of that you gotta do it every time you boot. It's a huge hassle.
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May 2, 2018 14:35
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There is a rumored revision that will fix this which I assume will swiftly replace existing switches. A recall makes no sense and wont happen
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May 2, 2018 14:35
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King Vidiot posted:My only real question is what Nintendo's response is going to be. They could detect if people are going online with cracked Switches, but what do they do then? Do they ban them outright? If they did that, they could turn someone who is just running emulator software into somebody who's now pirating new first party games because they can't buy them legit anymore. Do they tolerate it? That person could already be pirating first party games and could also be cheating online, driving people away from the online service. Nintendo would never block you from purchasing games, they'd just kill your online multiplayer access (Like they did with the 3DS if you were detected) Theoretically the possibility of being deteched by Nintendo if you use a Switch bootloader/homebrew/pirate will be quite low.. that's just me talking out of my arse tho
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May 2, 2018 14:36
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Barudak posted:There is a rumored revision that will fix this which I assume will swiftly replace existing switches. Nintendo can recall my Switch if they give me free stuff.
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May 2, 2018 14:37
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nopantsjack posted:i just want yoshi's island and viewtiful joe on switch! i already bought them in 1976 so its cool I know its not your point but yeah re-release Viewtiful Joe.
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May 2, 2018 14:38
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:It's not though. Aside from the paper clip you have to do a whole bunch of work installing poo poo and getting the files you want and following step by step instructions, and on top of that you gotta do it every time you boot. It's a huge hassle. At the moment sure. Just like it was a pain in the arse to do anything on the 3DS for ages. Now it's super simple But give it time and they'll probably simplify the process, get a homebrew app into the main Switch menu to circumvent the need for dual booting, allow custom app creation for emulators, etc, etc.
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May 2, 2018 14:39
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King Vidiot posted:My only real question is what Nintendo's response is going to be. They could detect if people are going online with cracked Switches, but what do they do then? Do they ban them outright? If they did that, they could turn someone who is just running emulator software into somebody who's now pirating new first party games because they can't buy them legit anymore. Do they tolerate it? That person could already be pirating first party games and could also be cheating online, driving people away from the online service. They will likely try and ban accounts and console IDs from online play. Operative word being try. We all know what Nintendo's history with online services is like by this point.
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May 2, 2018 14:40
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Infinitum posted:Nintendo would never block you from purchasing games, they'd just kill your online multiplayer access (Like they did with the 3DS if you were detected) There is at least one version of the 3DS ban that blocks eShop access as well. I think it's the one that hit people who played Pokemon Sun/Moon online before the release date.
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May 2, 2018 14:41
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Guy Goodbody posted:You should try not being how you are My post was def more cranky than it was funky, but I still think the fears are a bit overblown. Nintendo is literally printing money from this thing and devs are scrambling to port something, anything, to get in on the feast. No need to get into gloom n doom territory for Indies til we see some actual damage I think a lot less people pirate than you might think. Consumers are going to continue spending hand over fist on anything Nintendo switch for a while I'm personally a massive homebrew nerd who also has ongoing subscriptions to Netflix, HBO, Spotify, etc and have probably spent over $1k on various Nintendo eshops within the last year or so. I'm just one person sure, but most people are not into nerdy poo poo like homebrew and those who are aren't necessarily sticking to piracy for most of their content consumption Anyways I've yet to see piracy cause the kind of harm many gamers proclaim, and in fact have only seen it objectively improve an experience (emulators) or allow for completely unique creations like project M. The worst of it is probably increased hacking in multiplayer games but the moneyed interests will survive this one
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May 2, 2018 14:48
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It's going to be terrible when piracy kills the Switch just like it killed DS, 3DS, Wii and PC gaming
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May 2, 2018 14:49
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It does kill them in developing countries though. I remember the ps2/gamecube generation got pirated to all hell but nowadays losing multiplayer is a big deterrent for people who would otherwise pirate (broke teenagers). Sadly, the Switch has two games with good multiplayer on them... so, I don't know.
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May 2, 2018 14:52
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Wasn't there at least one PSP game that injected a multi-minute rant about piracy into the English version script, with a "do you understand" prompt that defaulted to no and forced you to sit through it again? I swear I heard something about that.
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May 2, 2018 14:52
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The SNES Classic is trivially easy to put games on with helpful apps already designed with decent UI"s, but even that is kind of a hassle I wouldn't recommend to a layperson, and if you look through threads about it on other forums, they are full of people doing it wrong, getting errors, and asking for help.
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May 2, 2018 14:53
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gmq posted:It does kill them in developing countries though. I remember the ps2/gamecube generation got pirated to all hell but nowadays losing multiplayer it's a big deterrent for people who would pirate (broke teenagers). Sadly, the Switch has two games with good multiplayer on them... so, I don't know. Yeah but most of those pirates literally don't have money to give to these companies in the first place so I'm not really sure how much they actually "lose" here They undoubtedly lose out on some sales I'm sure but companies will always hyperinflate these figures
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May 2, 2018 14:56
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Infinitum posted:If you can pirate a brand new release game with 0 impunity, you can bet your arse most people will do so regardless of what moral high ground they choose to put forward on the internet. i wont
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May 2, 2018 15:00
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Guy Goodbody posted:It was pretty cool that a lot of indie games were able to get a second life on the Switch. It's a shame piracy is going to gently caress that up too. You're overestimating the reach of console piracy, the vast majority of Switch owners won't even know, care or think to try. It'll be fine.
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I stopped pirating games and music when I got a job. The other main issue was ease of access/purchase. Now that I can digitally download anything I want, it's easier than pirating.
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