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I'm not familiar with WoW (I'm guessing that's what everyone's referring to re: Cataclysm) what happened in that expansion and why would that affect earlier zones?
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MelvinBison posted:I'm not familiar with WoW (I'm guessing that's what everyone's referring to re: Cataclysm) what happened in that expansion and why would that affect earlier zones? the timeline of the entire non-expansion content was updated so instead of being two years ago it is “now” as of cataclysm they did not change other expansions in doing so you end up going back in time after level 60 not because of time travel nonsense but because blizzard thought it would be too much work so you are left with an inconsistent narrative that confuses the poo poo out of new players who talk to three different “current” warchiefs of the horde in a single quest chain
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May 2, 2018 20:25
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MelvinBison posted:I'm not familiar with WoW (I'm guessing that's what everyone's referring to re: Cataclysm) what happened in that expansion and why would that affect earlier zones? Storywise, a dragon burst out of the ground and caused a bunch of natural events, along with just loving some stuff up himself. Gameplay wise the 1-60 experience from the base game basically got blown away - a bunch of zones saw revamps to their layouts and biomes, others got minor touchups, all basically had their quests and stories replaced. All the quests from 1-60 reflected the world state of the time (aka, after the events of the game's first two expansions.) So to me it was kinda funny when XIV also had a dragon blow up their world so they could remake it. e: Timeline fuckery gets even sillier for Pandaren (introduced in the expansion after Cataclsym) or Allied Races (introduced in the upcoming expansion) who are basically jumping back in time to Cata-era quests up to 60, then jumping back in time again for BC & Wrath for 60-80 before leaping forward to the remainder for 85+ Granted, this is mostly dumb when you step back at look at it - it's not nearly as bad in game since stuff in WoW doesn't really have a strong through-line like XIV so it barely matters that your jumping back and forth. Oxyclean fucked around with this message at 20:34 on May 2, 2018 |
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May 2, 2018 20:28
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UHD posted:the timeline of the entire non-expansion content was updated so instead of being two years ago it is “now” as of cataclysm It's not particularly a big deal in WoW anyway since the narrative is mostly focused on specific zones and there's no overarching "MSQ" you work through until the current expansion with Legion. Even then that bit of main story progression will cease to be relevant in a gameplay sense when BOFA comes out. Hell it's not like a new player gets any closure for any of the expansions unless they do the raids anyway, which they can't/won't at an appropriate level.
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May 2, 2018 20:39
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I think people used to joke about worgen death knights since you start by being in the past, move to the present, then the past earlier than you start, then the past you started in, then the present again.
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May 2, 2018 20:42
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May 2, 2018 21:33
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This was for a Heavens' Eye VI materia. Always check your zeroes
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May 2, 2018 21:33
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Tamayachi posted:This was for a Heavens' Eye VI materia. Always check your zeroes I got two Ala Mhigan Doublets of Crafting for 22k each once. I kinda wish it would show the actual seller instead of the retainer, because I genuinely would give something like that back if it looked like an honest mistake.
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May 2, 2018 22:25
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Vermain posted:I got two Ala Mhigan Doublets of Crafting for 22k each once. I kinda wish it would show the actual seller instead of the retainer, because I genuinely would give something like that back if it looked like an honest mistake. The catch-22 of this is that the seller can see who bought the item and contact you, but anyone who contacts you over it isn't worth giving it back to. 
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May 2, 2018 22:41
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a crisp refreshing Moxie posted:The catch-22 of this is that the seller can see who bought the item and contact you, but anyone who contacts you over it isn't worth giving it back to. Also it's difficult to impossible to prove that the person contacting you is the retainer's owner (exception for things they personally crafted since the item will say who made it). I wouldn't be surprised if somebody has watched the MB for accidents like this, then claimed to be the seller with a sob story in an attempt to get something from the buyer.
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May 2, 2018 22:52
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Thundarr posted:Also it's difficult to impossible to prove that the person contacting you is the retainer's owner (exception for things they personally crafted since the item will say who made it). I wouldn't be surprised if somebody has watched the MB for accidents like this, then claimed to be the seller with a sob story in an attempt to get something from the buyer. How would they know who bought it
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May 2, 2018 22:55
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Ride The Gravitron posted:How would they know who bought it The MB history gives the name of the character who bought the item and the price they paid. So a third party won't know who the chump was that listed their nagxian silk for 70 gil but they'll see who has it now.
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May 2, 2018 22:58
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Tamayachi posted:This was for a Heavens' Eye VI materia. Always check your zeroes
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May 2, 2018 23:04
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Dwesa posted:At least they will learn from their mistakes, I guess. These are MMO players you're talking about here.
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May 3, 2018 00:27
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Anyone having issues with friends not receiving callback campaign emails?
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May 3, 2018 00:28
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Vermain posted:I got two Ala Mhigan Doublets of Crafting for 22k each once. I kinda wish it would show the actual seller instead of the retainer, because I genuinely would give something like that back if it looked like an honest mistake. The crafter is listed on the item.
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May 3, 2018 00:57
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Lizard Wizard posted:Anyone having issues with friends not receiving callback campaign emails? I've seen a lot of people complaining about this on reddit, not sure what they're doing about it, sorry. Probably best to just wait a bit.
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May 3, 2018 01:04
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Why did Square make the cutscenes in the Castrums unskippable? Whose idea was that?
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May 3, 2018 01:43
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FactsAreUseless posted:Why did Square make the cutscenes in the Castrums unskippable? Whose idea was that?
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May 3, 2018 01:45
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They wanted first-timers to be able to enjoy the cutscenes and not feel rushed
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May 3, 2018 01:46
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Problem: Players would skip the cutscene and rush the dungeon while the new person was still watching the first cutscene. Solution: Force cutscenes to autoplay and be unskippable. Problem: Players no longer run main story roulette cause they don't want to spend 1 hour in the same dungeon Solution: ????
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May 3, 2018 01:48
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homeless snail posted:People were skipping the cutscenes so their fix was to make them unskippable
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May 3, 2018 01:50
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FactsAreUseless posted:Smart, now players can never do the quest because nobody does MSQ roulette.
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May 3, 2018 01:52
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MSQ roulette still gets done just fine actually.
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May 3, 2018 01:53
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I had to wait like half an hour as a tank.
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May 3, 2018 01:56
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I mean, they did up the rewards.
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May 3, 2018 01:56
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MSQ still gets run but it's honestly not a good fix. I just imagine they have a hell of a time actually justifying fixing an ancient dungeon most people run once when they're new.
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May 3, 2018 02:00
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Oh great, now I'm dreading getting there again on this character. Those cutscenes are long too!
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May 3, 2018 02:50
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It makes doing them really unpleasant, honestly. I can't imagine this is a good experience for new players.
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May 3, 2018 03:21
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It wouldn't be bad if they were just regular-length dungeons. It's still going to be a ridiculous curbstomp, now with unskippable cutscenes.
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May 3, 2018 03:28
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I mean, if you wanted to get the story out of the old version it was a much worse experience since it was just back to back to back cut scenes. It was kind of silly the recommendation was "play with some goons who will wait for you" (as the average player doesn't have access to something like that.)
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May 3, 2018 03:40
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I watched them in the inn room, generally something I only do for the raids, and also because I wanted to see the layout of the place too for future roulettes.
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May 3, 2018 04:04
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The Cutscene (Extreme) via roulette is about 45 minutes long, gives 400 to 500 Poe and about 1.5 levels of exp pre-55. It's very good for leveling.
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May 3, 2018 04:04
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After several unsuccessful runs of O7S today that didn't even get to Virus, I found myself tired, exhausted, and frustrated. I decided to, instead of taking a break, join another party that did really well and got past Virus repeatedly... only to be dragged down by me making dumb mistakes, leaving them tired, exhausted, and frustrated. 
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May 3, 2018 05:53
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Important:
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Lizard Wizard posted:Important:
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May 3, 2018 09:32
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Vermain posted:There's an enormous amount of cruft they could pare down without affecting the overall arc or any of the (very thin) character development moments that occur. I suspect that's going to be a part of the next expansion, because the current situation isn't really tenable: you either gate new players behind multiple months of working through the story, or you start offering a free jump potion with the latest expansion and create a very confusing story for people just jumping in. I agree with all this, of course, but there is a fourth, hidden improvement that will reduce not just MSQ time, but actually reduce all questing time by at least 25%: Remove every single camera cut where the characters are literally just looking at each other and nodding.  I bought the ARR skip potion once I had killed Ultima Weapon and checked how many quests were actually left before I could move on to HW. I used the book in the inn to read up on the last events that happened before you're whisked off to Ishgard and had no problems at all with following the story when it was revisited in late HW/SB. Edit: Actually, reading it again I think the aether currents are fine, but they would be even more fine if they gave you a bit of EXP when you picked them up. Not much but like 20k+100% with RT60. Foxhound fucked around with this message at 13:16 on May 3, 2018 |
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May 3, 2018 09:54
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For how long the cutscenes are they really don't exposit much that's important at all. Even gameplay wise, of all the ridiculous things you're expected to know how to do in Castrum maybe one of them has an establishing shot suggesting you need to go somewhere next.
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May 3, 2018 10:52
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Yoshi P's nefarious plan to expose more ears to Cid's ARR English voice. This man must be stopped.
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Vermain posted:I got two Ala Mhigan Doublets of Crafting for 22k each once. I kinda wish it would show the actual seller instead of the retainer, because I genuinely would give something like that back if it looked like an honest mistake. I don't take pity on fat cat 1% crafters 
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