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Rick_Hunter
Jan 5, 2004

My guys are still fighting the hard fight!
(weapons, shields and drones are still online!)

nael posted:

The Thernovish strategy?

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At Waterloo
Dec 16, 2007

Oh baby darling you will see, your blood belongs to him a soulless feast.
I may just be an idiot but this guy’s facial expression is loving funny




Like...did they not have another pic to use? Charged with possession of kid porn so I guess his big dumb face really doesn’t matter.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


So there was apparently a white girl in the US that wore a Chinese dress to prom and it went viral as an evil cultural appropriation thing? Am I just too old and racist to understand why that's a horrible thing?

Rick_Hunter
Jan 5, 2004

My guys are still fighting the hard fight!
(weapons, shields and drones are still online!)

Len posted:

So there was apparently a white girl in the US that wore a Chinese dress to prom and it went viral as an evil cultural appropriation thing? Am I just too old and racist to understand why that's a horrible thing?

There you go.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum
Man; cultural appropriation is such a hard thing to pin down. There was some kerfuffle over a museum having a kimono display where you could try on some of the garments, and people freaked out about cultural appropriation, despite tons of quotes from Japanese people about how their fashion was meant to be shared and appreciated worldwide.

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

Len posted:

So there was apparently a white girl in the US that wore a Chinese dress to prom and it went viral as an evil cultural appropriation thing? Am I just too old and racist to understand why that's a horrible thing?

Do you understand why cultural appropriation is bad? Because that’s step one. Step two is realizing that people draw the line at different places. Step three is realizing white people dont get to say if it is or isn’t.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


jivjov posted:

Man; cultural appropriation is such a hard thing to pin down. There was some kerfuffle over a museum having a kimono display where you could try on some of the garments, and people freaked out about cultural appropriation, despite tons of quotes from Japanese people about how their fashion was meant to be shared and appreciated worldwide.

Yeah I only ever hear that phrase online and it feels like it comes up anytime someone from culture A wears thing from culture B. How is it a bad thing?

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

Len posted:

Yeah I only ever hear that phrase online and it feels like it comes up anytime someone from culture A wears thing from culture B. How is it a bad thing?

The post right above yours sums it up really well; but yeah; there's definite good and bad usages of other culture's stuff. Like, I live in Kansas City. Every year I get to cringe at people wearing Native American headdresses to football games.

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

thank god i'm not white so i'm allowed to say that a prom dress is so far below the realm of things worth caring about

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

Bunni-kat posted:

Do you understand why cultural appropriation is bad? Because that’s step one. Step two is realizing that people draw the line at different places. Step three is realizing white people dont get to say if it is or isn’t.

I showed my wife those pictures of the young girl who was having a "Japanese tea party" at home while wearing a kids' kimono -- the pictures that the Internet went up in arms about over "cultural appropriation" and how it was "insulting to the Japanese" and all that.

She said "oh, that's cute. But the belt is tied the wrong way." I specifically asked her if she was offended by what the kid was doing and she looked at me like I had two heads. IIRC after I explained how the Internet was gasping for breath over the pictures, she said something like "I think you should stop reading the Internet."

I guess the moral is that white people shouldn't immediately start screeching ":byodame: CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!!!!!!!!" if they don't actually know anything about the culture in question.

edit: Also Western clothing styles were literally appropriated here and are now the norm. Where are the Tumblrites protesting at the Japanese embassy about this horrible transgressions against Western culture?

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

Len posted:

Yeah I only ever hear that phrase online and it feels like it comes up anytime someone from culture A wears thing from culture B. How is it a bad thing?

Because Culture A is usually the one who went in and poo poo all over Culture B, historically treating said culture like garbage right up until "oh look at these funny/pretty things I can wear! Who cares about what any of this stuff means, it's mine now!"

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

Weatherman posted:

I showed my wife those pictures of the young girl who was having a "Japanese tea party" at home while wearing a kids' kimono -- the pictures that the Internet went up in arms about over "cultural appropriation" and how it was "insulting to the Japanese" and all that.

She said "oh, that's cute. But the belt is tied the wrong way." I specifically asked her if she was offended by what the kid was doing and she looked at me like I had two heads. IIRC after I explained how the Internet was gasping for breath over the pictures, she said something like "I think you should stop reading the Internet."

I guess the moral is that white people shouldn't immediately start screeching ":byodame: CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!!!!!!!!" if they don't actually know anything about the culture in question.

edit: Also Western clothing styles were literally appropriated here and are now the norm. Where are the Tumblrites protesting at the Japanese embassy about this horrible transgressions against Western culture?

Yeah, white people love to speak "on behalf of others" and usually go too far, which is why I included step 3. Pretty sure the idea of appropriation doesn’t extend to "conquered" (sorry, don’t have better vocabulary for this) taking from "conquering" cultures, so Japan taking from the west doesn’t seem to qualify under the usual understanding.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!
I just found this loving thing on imgur and it makes my skin crawl in a way that won't stop: https://imgur.com/gallery/WLRrALF

Guy kept a journal of his relentless pining after the girl in the cubicle next to him. Here's the first page!


This dude's diary is gonna be worth a fortune someday after they find all the bodies. :stare:

Waterbed Wendy
Jan 29, 2009

Yawgmoth posted:

I just found this loving thing on imgur and it makes my skin crawl in a way that won't stop: https://imgur.com/gallery/WLRrALF

Guy kept a journal of his relentless pining after the girl in the cubicle next to him. Here's the first page!


This dude's diary is gonna be worth a fortune someday after they find all the bodies. :stare:

I just read that whole thread and dear loving lord, what an insane creep. He's in jail now apparently for stalking her.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Len posted:

So there was apparently a white girl in the US that wore a Chinese dress to prom and it went viral as an evil cultural appropriation thing? Am I just too old and racist to understand why that's a horrible thing?

that's just something to be mocked regardless of politics

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Weatherman posted:

I showed my wife those pictures of the young girl who was having a "Japanese tea party" at home while wearing a kids' kimono -- the pictures that the Internet went up in arms about over "cultural appropriation" and how it was "insulting to the Japanese" and all that.

She said "oh, that's cute. But the belt is tied the wrong way." I specifically asked her if she was offended by what the kid was doing and she looked at me like I had two heads. IIRC after I explained how the Internet was gasping for breath over the pictures, she said something like "I think you should stop reading the Internet."

I guess the moral is that white people shouldn't immediately start screeching ":byodame: CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!!!!!!!!" if they don't actually know anything about the culture in question.

edit: Also Western clothing styles were literally appropriated here and are now the norm. Where are the Tumblrites protesting at the Japanese embassy about this horrible transgressions against Western culture?

Take your own advice and stop being bothered by something you don't understand.

Tiberius Thyben
Feb 7, 2013

Gone Phishing


Len posted:

Yeah I only ever hear that phrase online and it feels like it comes up anytime someone from culture A wears thing from culture B. How is it a bad thing?

So, as people have said, there is a lot of variation in what some people are upset by, and some not. Sometimes I think people are too offended by some things, but it's their right. But let's take an example, wearing a headdress. Now, I can;t speak for every indigenous North American, but it is a very important and symbolic item for people hereabout and it is really dick to just make or wear one yourself for whatever stupid poo poo. And then you got fuckers like Ted Nugent wearing it around while ranting about how he is more indigenous than we are, and that we barely qualify as people. And poo poo, look at the stuff the boy scouts and poo poo get up to. It's horrifyingly racist and lovely.

But, if anyone wants my kokhoms sick rear end bannock recipe, they can have it. They just need to listen to my story about it first.

Tiberius Thyben has a new favorite as of 02:58 on May 3, 2018

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Doc Hawkins posted:

Take your own advice and stop being bothered by something you don't understand.

I do find it funny he has turned his wife into an object to own random people on the internet.

It’s the I have a black friend on steroids.

kru
Oct 5, 2003

CharlestheHammer posted:

I do find it funny he has turned his wife into an object to own random people on the internet.

It’s the I have a black friend on steroids.

Or he just asked his wife's opinion on something he was thinking about, to see what she thought? You know, like normal adults do?

Jesus loving Christ.

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.
Cultural appropriation is supposed to be a neutral term. A phenomena that happens in society (or there's probably arguments out there that it's a phenomena in colonizing/capitalist society) that can either be good or bad depending on context. I think as long as you care about doing a thing justice and do it with respect then there isn't a lot to get mad about. Like if a boardroom of white execs decide to use iconography from another culture to sell softdrinks or something would be rightfully offensive (how offensive is up to the people affected).

I'm a dumb idiot so I just side on caution hoping that people get to learn, understand and experience other cultures in a way that benefits everyone and promotes understanding. But I'm an idiot.

Anyway, content:

https://twitter.com/cocksailor/status/991743574331899905

Included screenshots:






Idiots on Social Media: Baby mad? Are you trying to seduce me?

Dumb question, does rehosting rules apply for twitter? Should I be rehosting them on Imgur anyway?

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK
edit: whoops missed a page

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

kru posted:

Or he just asked his wife's opinion on something he was thinking about, to see what she thought? You know, like normal adults do?

Jesus loving Christ.

Lol no he didn’t or he wouldn’t have posted gloating.

Jesus Christ don’t be so dumb.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Tiberius Thyben posted:


But, if anyone wants my kokhoms sick rear end bannock recipe, they can have it. They just need to listen to my story about it first.

Sweet, let's hear it.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

CharlestheHammer posted:

Lol no he didn’t or he wouldn’t have posted gloating.

Jesus Christ don’t be so dumb.

Relating an anecdote is "gloating" now?

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

CharlestheHammer posted:

Lol no he didn’t or he wouldn’t have posted gloating.

Jesus Christ don’t be so dumb.

Speaking of normal adults, here's a great example of not-one.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
The correct way to have a discussion about appropriation is to discuss it so both sides can come to an agreement on where the line should be drawn, rather than getting into slapfights.

This scenario never happens.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Arcsquad12 posted:

The correct way to have a discussion about appropriation is to discuss it so both sides can come to an agreement on where the line should be drawn, rather than getting into slapfights.

This scenario never happens.

Basically but apparently smugly declaring everyone’s feelings worthless based of the opinion of one person is just giving an a anecdote.

Goons can be real dense some times.

Tiberius Thyben
Feb 7, 2013

Gone Phishing


Who What Now posted:

Sweet, let's hear it.

I'll just quote myself from the BYOB cooking thread.

Tiberius Thyben posted:

Fair enough! Bannock is a type of quick bread. The term bannock itself is a loan word from the the Scots, who made a similar type of bread. Most recipes are made with flour, water, lard, baking powder, and optionally eggs, powdered or fresh milk, currants, and anything else on hand. Some recipes are fried, some deep fried, others baked, and others still done over a fire.

While breads made from corn and such were made long before contact, Indian bannocks, made from wheat flour, only really started to spread among North American aboriginal peoples (including First Nations) after about 1870. In Canada, the Treaties among many other things promised food in times of shortage, and First Nations were considered wards of the state after the Indian Act in 1867. However, the government naturally did the absolute bare minimum it could in fulfilling any obligations. Somewhat famously, Prime Minister John A MacDonald responded to accusations by the Liberal Party that he was overspending on Indians that food was refused "until the Indians were on the verge of starvation, to reduce the expense." Food and the threat of starvation were a key tool for keeping us in line after we were shunted off to the most marginal land. When the government did provide the promised food, it was whatever was absolutely cheapest, among them flour and lard. So, we made Bannock, and we got really good at making bannock.

This recipe is one I got from my kokum. It results in a pretty large about of bannock, as she would usually make a whole bunch, and give some of it to anyone who came by, so feel free to halve or quarter if anyone gives it a shot.

8c flour
6 tbs lard
1 tsp salt
4 tbs baking powder
1 litre water (or milk)
Eggs, if desired.

- Pre-heat oven to 400 F
- Place all dry ingredients in a bowl and mix
- Melt the lard in saucepan until liquid
- Make hole in middle of dry ingredients to poor liquids into.
- Pour water and lard into hole, and mix with a spoon into a batter.
- Remove from bowl onto floured surface. Knead and add flour until dry.
- Place onto baking sheet and press down to just over ½ inch thickness.
- Bake until pale brown.

I forgot to take photos when I made it last, but here's one from a friend who gave it a shot, but with duck fat instead of lard.



This recipe is also really good over a fire, either in a cast iron pan, or wrapped in a braid on a stick. Not over the smoke, it will turn it into a charred mess, and be patient. It will take 10-20 minutes, and if you rush it it'll burn before the middle cooks.

Also got a pan fried bannock recipe somewhere, but I need to remember where I saved it.

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK
Mate I don't know why you're so angry about this but I'm nowhere near as invested in the topic as you imagine I am, so feel free to have the last words.

kru
Oct 5, 2003

CharlestheHammer posted:

Basically but apparently smugly declaring everyone’s feelings worthless based of the opinion of one person is just giving an a anecdote.

Nobody did this, and you seem absolutely mental.

Nostradingus
Jul 13, 2009

I have literally never met a non white person who cares about cultural appropriation.

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

Nostradingus posted:

I have literally never met a non white person who cares about cultural appropriation.

Do you know many Native (American Indian) people? Because several of the ones I know are pissed off by ladies wearing war bonnets to Coachella and the like.

Tiberius Thyben
Feb 7, 2013

Gone Phishing


Nostradingus posted:

I have literally never met a non white person who cares about cultural appropriation.

I'm literally right here, in this thread, talking about it.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Nostradingus posted:

I have literally never met a non white person who cares about cultural appropriation.

People who have been actively discriminated against and marginalized by colonial powers have some strong opinions about appropriation. "Strong" is about the most neutral term I can use.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
https://twitter.com/GamerTakes/status/991787383237509120?s=19

funmanguy
Apr 20, 2006

What time is it?

Nostradingus posted:

I have literally never met a non white person who cares about cultural appropriation.

Ive met a whole bunch, they're fine folks with a lot of informed opinions. Hope you meet some soon.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Nostradingus posted:

I have literally never met a non white person who cares about cultural appropriation.

How fascinating. Good thing you told us.

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

The gently caress is that person talking about?

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.

Bunni-kat posted:

The gently caress is that person talking about?

He thinks people only play women in games because they're creeps, wants to use said logic to "prove" the person is a pedophile too.

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Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Bunni-kat posted:

The gently caress is that person talking about?

All I know is that they definitely hated Uncharted Lost Legacy, and if God of War DLC let's you play as the kid and you buy it, you're definitely a pedophile.

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