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The Iron Rose posted:Whatever emotions or outfits you like is all that's good? I don’t know you can upgrade gear and poo poo and I have no clue what to use. I really suck rear end at this and I feel like I’m just reinforcing my bad habits as I play more. All the character guides I find are a year old and out of date.
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Just be boring and use gear that has +5% better everything instead of the insane poo poo that’s +20 one stat, -20% everything else. I don’t like to use those crazy swing stat gear pieces because I don’t want damage/stamina to change drastically as I switch between gear stat modes (4v4) and non gear stat modes 1v1, 2v2). What character would you like a current guide for? Captain Beans fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Apr 8, 2018 |
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You can upgrade your gears with steel and salvage. Salvage you can get from salvaging gears that you don't use. Salvage the gear for salvage. Get it? :v I wouldn't bother much about upgrading unless you're gonna stop at Rep 2/4/6 when you get guaranteed (does not drop mix of current and previous colors, which happen at Rep 1/3/5/7) blue/purple/yellow (Rare/Heroic/Epic) gears. Also you can copy gear looks (probably have to be of same color) from one to another. Max gear grade is teal (Legendary) and you can get guaranteed drop at Rep 8. As for gear stats, most people just aim for all-round 3 stats boost ones, but if you don't care much about Block damage (damage applied to enemy when they block your attack) then you can get something else. Not that gear stats matter if you're not playing 4v4. edit: Some people (I think Reddit, forgot) were arguing about having Defense boost stat or not due to Armor Penetration. Apparently if your Defense boost stat is flat 0% then armor penetration does not apply because you don't have any extra defense. Armor penetration seems to be a must just because most people use 3 + stats gears so they get defense bonus, but defense bonus doesn't seem to be necessary as long as you just keep it at 0%. Aesis fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Apr 8, 2018 |
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Apr 8, 2018 04:54
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I read on Reddit that you can sacrifice defense and try to get it to be +0% because everyone piles on defense penetration which only works against the bonus gear defense.
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Shear Modulus posted:I read on Reddit that you can sacrifice defense and try to get it to be +0% because everyone piles on defense penetration which only works against the bonus gear defense.
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Apr 8, 2018 05:07
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In that sense you can ignore all of it and wear the prettiest hats.
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Glory to Italia!
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Man I finally bought this and I'm having an absolute blast (occasionally interrupted by rage bouts when I miss a Parry) Are there any stats from Ubi about the playerbase? I know due to server issues plenty of people bailed on the game, but is it picking up since the dedicated server changes? Can I expect more content in the future? Also I'm terrible, but if there are eu goons playing this and don't mind an awful teammate that will probably hit you by accident and gently caress up your chain, I'd love to join.
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Hugoon Chavez posted:
Echoing this, but I'm us. I saw the discord in the op but was wondering if we had a steam group or something so we can just scrub it up. Cent chat- with the gb after parry Nerf, is the best parry punish always the knee to the face- Spartan kick - fish for lights into grab combos? Also I guess cent is... Not as good as he used to be? I just picked the game back up from launch, and he seems hilariously good and it's freaking me out when people say he's super nerfed now. I guess anything feels op after you mained release nobusbi.
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I'm pretty bad but I swear the loving Cent is my bane. I can never avoid his grab into knockdown into sword to my chest combo. INCREDIBILIS.
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ILL Machina posted:In that sense you can ignore all of it and wear the prettiest hats. Double Monocle posted:Cent chat- with the gb after parry Nerf, is the best parry punish always the knee to the face- Spartan kick - fish for lights into grab combos? If you don't even attempt to parry they can't trick you with charged heavy attacks anymore, which means the only other way to falcon punch is with the unblockable that you can see coming from miles away. Apparently they're gonna get buffed soon though!
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I guess I'm still at the scrub tier because I've never seen anyone just go full turtle. I've had defensive players but normally the mix up is strong enough they are a missed tech away from ADMORTEM INNUMICUES. Normally I can open the super defensive people up by faking heavies into gbs. I got the (idiot newbie) impression that cent was designed to crack open turtles and it's sorta sad to hear at actually good player skill that's not the case. Also hosing bashes with your leap attack is the most satisfying thing ever. vvvvvvvvvvvvvv God your right lol. Been playing with a bud who's running the law and most of our games are just loud angry men shouting Latin at the poor dude we are.pummeling. Double Monocle fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Apr 18, 2018 |
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Don't get me wrong, I'm a big scrub as well and I regularly see Cents owning people left and right in my games. But it's always because people keep trying to parry their variable-timed heavies, which ultimately leads to them getting pounced on. If the opponent just blocks then soft-feinting into a guardbreak doesn't really work either, since they can fully focus on counter-guardbreaking as the heavy itself is no threat. The Cent's kick, his other anti-turtle tool, is also fairly predictable since you can only do it if you dodge forwards. Even if you do land it you only really get a single guaranteed light out of it, which is pitiful if you compare it to the Highlander's kick that leads to a guaranteed 40 damage. (Kinda apples and oranges, but still) Edit: I guess a better comparison would be the Conqueror's dodge shieldbash, which they can do after after either a forward dodge or a side dodge. It's also way faster and much harder to punish. ... Also isn't the ADMORTEM line from the Lawbringer? 
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Apr 18, 2018 17:25
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Exodee posted:Don't get me wrong, I'm a big scrub as well and I regularly see Cents owning people left and right in my games. But it's always because people keep trying to parry their variable-timed heavies, which ultimately leads to them getting pounced on. ... oh poo poo they Dodge back? Ok.
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Exodee posted:I guess a better comparison would be the Conqueror's dodge shieldbash, which they can do after after either a forward dodge or a side dodge. It's also way faster and much harder to punish.
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cock hero flux posted:I don't think they ever fixed the bug that lets you guaranteed chain shieldbashes into each other until the person runs out of stamina, either. Edit: Also it would cost more stamina than it drains anyway, so it's not really all that useful beyond ledging Exodee fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Apr 19, 2018 |
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Apr 19, 2018 21:30
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Exodee posted:Nah there's too much of a delay in between bashes. Yes but there is a bug that completely removes the delay and lets you just powerslam people infinitely. And they definitely run out of stamina while you still have at least 30% left. I don't know that they ever patched it and it's an extremely easy bug to pull off.
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From what I can gather you used to be able to hold your charged attack while bashing to skip a part of the delay, but from testing with a bot (that's set to dodge everything I throw at it) it just dodges the second bash without fail. Even if I just set the bot to passive, shield bash spamming exhausts me quicker than it does the bot, so I'm pretty sure that's been fixed. You'll definitely do the second bash much quicker than otherwise though, but since you don't really get anything out of it (while giving the enemy a shitton of revenge meter to boot) I don't think that's very useful compared to just throwing out the guaranteed light attack. Edit: However there's a new exploit with the newly buffed Centurion, who can almost infinitely chain his light into unblockable after a single succesful knockdown. You can try to parry it but the timing is extremely tight. Apparently that'll get hotfixed soon though. Exodee fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Apr 20, 2018 |
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Apr 20, 2018 01:20
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Free weekend coming up. You can preload starting tomorrow.
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Thinking of checking this out, is starter edition ok?
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spb posted:Thinking of checking this out, is starter edition ok? There's apparently a free weekend literally this coming weekend so do that instead.
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The 2 main problems with this game are: 1. Not enough players to provide an actual skill curve for matchmaking, I can only find balanced teams post 12am EST 2. Most the heroes rely on 1 moveset to attack, you see certain heroes using 1 tactic exclusively to deal any sort of damage and abuse mechanics. Start with an assassin or any other fast hero like the kensai, it will prep you for the slower, fat characters.
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As a complete chump finding games isn’t a problem but that seems pretty typical of most games once you actually make it to the upper levels. Player count is harder to get because people usually go by steam numbers but you can buy it directly on uplay too. I got my key from the humble store and it wasn’t a steam key. When I stopped playing last night uplay popped up an ad for “up to” 75% off for honor but when I checked the store it wasn’t active yet. Check again this afternoon when he free weekend kicks in. If the full version really is 75% off I’d say that’s for sure worth it but hey you can try it for free anyway.
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Don't buy starter editions, neither here nor in Siege, you save some cash but they ramp the costs of everything in-game up an insane amount.
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The game on uplay is priced at £8~ currently, what version is that? It doesn't even say. I was told to avoid the starter edition. edit: I figured it out, the versions are shown on a separate link at the bottom of the page, sneaky Ubisoft. Starter is £8, standard version is £12.50. I really enjoyed what little I've played so far so I'll take the plunge.
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I think you can buy the season pass off the starter for the same price, which saves you the four dollars diff between starter and base, and it goes on sale sometimes. But if you'd getting the base for <$15 do it. It'll help the devs and you'll have more options if you don't like just the starter bundle classes for some reason. They're good, but variety is nice, and new heroes cost about 8h playtime in currency.
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This game owns for $15 but I can’t even get any of my friends to download it for the free weekend.
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May 5, 2018 01:40
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Last played this in Open Beta. Decided to pick it back up for the free weekend. Berserker is still loads of fun.
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Got this because of the discount. So far I haven't learned even half of the stuff. I just know the basic block, attack and guard break. Some people are doing crazy poo poo special moves. Been enjoying it, I played a bunch of Kensei. Not sure how good he is but I am getting a ton of kills as him every game. The only people I have trouble dueling was other Kensei. Viking/slow dudes were super easy to fight. Any tips on when you are 1v2? I try rolling but I get confused with all the guard indicators.
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Ulio posted:Got this because of the discount. So far I haven't learned even half of the stuff. I just know the basic block, attack and guard break. Some people are doing crazy poo poo special moves. Kensei's pretty decent these days. He's got a pretty straightforward dynamic that's easy to get used to while still have enough tools to mix it up. Just keep building up that one-two-three combo and vary the final attack. As for fighting while outnumbered, stay relatively defensive and focus on filling up your revenge meter. Revenge builds primarily when you block and parry, so you kind of want to fish for careless enemy attacks that you can easily block/parry. Clever opponents will try to guardbreak you while your back is turned, so stay on the lookout for that. Try to dodge in such a way that your opponents get into each other's way and can't get at you from the side easily. Once you have revenge full, try to time it so that you can interrupt an enemy attack with it (causing them to go prone) and then just go ham on them with the extra damage. A useful trick is to switch targets in the middle of a chain, that will often catch your opponents off guard and allow you to get a bit of free damage in, especially after popping revenge. Kensei works particularly well with that tactic, since you can easily launch unblockables from your chain.
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Ulio posted:Got this because of the discount. So far I haven't learned even half of the stuff. I just know the basic block, attack and guard break. Some people are doing crazy poo poo special moves. One big mechanic that's important to work on is parrying, if you've had people basically block but also turn your sword and put you off balance, that's what they were doing. You do that by getting your indicator on the direction of the attack like you were gonna block it, then hitting heavy just as the attack's gonna land on you, so there's a good bit of learning required for different characters timing and stuff like that, but it's a fight winner once you get consistently good enough at it.
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I still hate centurion. Get hit once and you've lost all your stamina, get knocked against a wall and you're basically instantly dead :ohear:
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Yardbomb posted:One big mechanic that's important to work on is parrying, if you've had people basically block but also turn your sword and put you off balance, that's what they were doing. You do that by getting your indicator on the direction of the attack like you were gonna block it, then hitting heavy just as the attack's gonna land on you, so there's a good bit of learning required for different characters timing and stuff like that, but it's a fight winner once you get consistently good enough at it. Perestroika posted:Kensei's pretty decent these days. He's got a pretty straightforward dynamic that's easy to get used to while still have enough tools to mix it up. Just keep building up that one-two-three combo and vary the final attack. That's some good advice. I am just learning the basics right now but it is good to know there is some depth in this game. Also any tips for people who just run? I haven't really used the feats much but I see there is a arrow one?
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Other real good tip to know related to parrying even, if you see an orange move flying your way it's unblockable, unblockable however does not mean unparryable.
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Sultan Tarquin posted:I still hate centurion. Get hit once and you've lost all your stamina, get knocked against a wall and you're basically instantly dead :ohear: I used to hate him too until I unlocked him and realized all of his openers can be shut down with a light attack. His kick has to follow a forward dodge, if you see him dodge forward, just light attack. Don’t try to predict dodge his kick because he may just forward dodge into gb and catch you. If he goes for a charge heavy, don’t try to parry it. The variable charge time will get you in trouble every time. Instead just light attack. If you play a character with slow light attacks just accept your death. Although you are right about being OOS vs cent is very bad indeed.
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Ulio posted:Been enjoying it, I played a bunch of Kensei. Not sure how good he is but I am getting a ton of kills as him every game. The only people I have trouble dueling was other Kensei. Viking/slow dudes were super easy to fight. As for 1v2ing, the Kensei gets a fuckton of iFrames whenever he does his side dodge -> heavy attack (Swift Strike, I believe it's called). In addition, you can only get parried by the opponent you're currently locked on to, so basically spam the poo poo out of your dodge attack and switch targets mid-attack. Edit: also abuse the crap out of your level 1 smoke bombs. Those things are rude as gently caress. Sultan Tarquin posted:I still hate centurion. Get hit once and you've lost all your stamina, get knocked against a wall and you're basically instantly dead :ohear: I'd recommend checking him out in training mode, (which you can do without spending steel) once you've figured out his moveset you'll realize he has no real options against a defensive player. Exodee fucked around with this message at 16:05 on May 6, 2018 |
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I think it's just my inability to tell if he's doing a charged heavy or a punch and can't react in time and just get hosed to death by the unblockables. Can never dodge out of the way in time.
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Yeah, if you try him out in training mode you'll realize he can't actually feint his charged heavies (including the unblockable) except for really early in the animation, so he can't fool you there. At most he can soft-feint his charged heavy into a guardbreak, which is why I recommend not trying to parry him as that's really the only way he's gonna get you. As for the jab, he can only do that after a successful heavy, and even then it's always dodgeable except if he's managed to hit you with a charged heavy. If you're having trouble distinguishing a charged jab from a regular one then just dodge backwards to make him whiff regardless. Or use your dodge-attack if you have one and get a free punish out of it to boot.
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Noob question. Should you switch directions mid combo or is it not worth it? I see a video saying top light on Kensei does more damage than his other lights or was it only if you start the combo with top light? Right now I see most people don't block even if you combo in just 1 direction because they are probably new players like me but I am wondering overall if it is better to mix it up. Also on Kensei when you do light heavy heavy it seems you can cancel the animation on the last heavy but I did it by mistake a few times not sure how it is done maye
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Yeah mixing up directions is a good idea. Kensei's gimmick is you can cancel all the top heavy attacks in the combo into something else like a heavy from another direction or a light attack or a dodge or the super-abusable hilt strike (only on the first hit for the hilt strike).
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