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Tomn posted:Given that the odds of a major air raid on the American mainland were slim to none, I feel like that whole pamphlet has some psychological value in terms of helping people not panic and feel like they’re contributing and can be prepared for ill-defined dangers. Pretty much non stop on the west coast in the first few months of the war. Check out The Battle of Los Angeles. edit: tl;dr one nervous AA crew took a shot at a weather balloon they misidentified as the Japanese and before long everyone was letting loose like it was the Berlin night sky ca. 1944.
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Very little in that pamphlet is actually bad advice if you're caught in an air raid and there are no bomb shelters handy.
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May 3, 2018 00:05
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Cyrano4747 posted:Apparently you can also end up with that one princess who is all over the internet for looking pretty good wearing a death's head on her fluffy hat running poo poo, but it's a BIT of a chain of events. And if you pull it off, she can rebrand Germany as the Holy Roman Empire reborn.  But yeah, that requires a very specific series of events to happen and decisions for the player to make, and some of it is down to luck.
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feedmegin posted:Is that what they are? T-34 at the front is on point but those turrets don't look nearly rounded enough. (Sadly) I can tell they are indeed T-54/55s by the details and stuff like the boxes on the sides. The turret/gun detail is kind of a mashup of early 54s and the later 55, but that’s close enough to not really matter. Also that looks to be East Germany at a glance so that narrows down the options I think. Cessna posted:They had to make design compromises in order to make it 1/3 scale and still able to cram a 12 year old in the TC hatch. That too Mazz fucked around with this message at 00:57 on May 3, 2018 |
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May 3, 2018 00:11
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There was only one air attack against the mainland United States, in late 1942, a Japanese submarine launched a floatplane attack on Brookings, Oregon. If it were done once, it could be replicated, and it were better the pamphlets were made available before the attack than after.
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May 3, 2018 00:27
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sullat posted:There was only one air attack against the mainland United States Not true, there's also the balloons with bombs that they sent after the US, only one of which hit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_balloon#Single_lethal_attack
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Cyrano4747 posted:Pretty much non stop on the west coast in the first few months of the war. As depicted in the documentary 1941.
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feedmegin posted:Is that what they are? T-34 at the front is on point but those turrets don't look nearly rounded enough. Not sure what #2 and #3 are (different hulls), but the T-34 had a billion and a half turret designs as they found they could put bigger and bigger guns/turrets on the sucker and the chassis would still support them. #4 and #5 look like fixed gun SPGs of some sort, but those are generally hard to guess what they are at this angle without seeing the size/position of the gun and gun-mantlet since they all had the same general shape of "Trapezoidal-ish fighting compartment of various sizes on T-34/KV chassis."
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Tomn posted:Given that the odds of a major air raid on the American mainland were slim to none, I feel like that whole pamphlet has some psychological value in terms of helping people not panic and feel like they’re contributing and can be prepared for ill-defined dangers. In December 1941, General Hap Arnold was quite concerned that the Graf Zeppelin was going to perform a carrier raid on the East Coast. The issue of safeguarding America from being raided would come up intermittently at Combined Chiefs of Staff meeting. My favorite possibility is Admiral Ingersoll's idea, who in 1945 was concerned that the few remaining Japanese carriers would perform a kamikaze raid on San Francisco.
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How close was the Graf Zeppelin to being ready to conduct operations? I got the vibe the Germans realized it was a huge waste of time/materials pretty early on.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Not true, there's also the balloons with bombs that they sent after the US, only one of which hit. Well, I'm distinguishing that from a bombing attack for reasons which I'm not entirely sure are important. The main point, of course, being that it was hypothetically possible for the Axis powers to bomb US cities using submarines & planes, which if not terribly dangerous, could at least cause panic, so having reassuring sounding civil defense pamphlets circulating is a pretty good idea. Also the Germans were working on a 4 engined bomber, which, thanks to the blogposts written by that goon, we know really had no chance of succeeding, but they wouldn't; have known that in 1942.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Not true, there's also the balloons with bombs that they sent after the US, only one of which hit. No, a number hit, but those were the only casualties. Reports of the balloons were kept under wraps initially for morale/security reasons, but after those deaths the censorship stopped because they didn't want more people finding them and messing around with them and getting killed. One of them actually managed to land on some power lines and knocked out power to the coolant pumps at the Hanford reactor.
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The first of my grandpa’s old WW2 documents. He got a deferral for age after initially being classified 1A, so he never actually served.   The address is nothing but an empty plot of land in the ghetto now.
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The first notice of classification he received. He was 27 at the time. The Parkside Projects no longer exist but there’s other apartments there. As for the name, he’s the Polish side of my family. The woman he married was German, I believe. My dad’s side is pure Clan Urquhart.  
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chitoryu12 posted:As for the name, he’s the Polish side of my family. The woman he married was German, I believe. My dad’s side is pure Clan Urquhart. and i am way more spanish-jewish than my mom had been led to believe. my dad's salty about the turkish part lol edit: well, it said "western asia." that could be a whoooole lot of things i guess HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 03:43 on May 3, 2018 |
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HEY GUNS posted:get a DNA test, you might be surprised. i found out my dad is equal parts italian, greek, and turkish--we thought his family was just italian. I haven't gotten a DNA test, but my dad's side of the family kept extensive records on their family history back to the 1600s. Their family tree is really big and really Scottish.
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MANime in the sheets posted:How close was the Graf Zeppelin to being ready to conduct operations? I got the vibe the Germans realized it was a huge waste of time/materials pretty early on. Not really close- the ship was largely built, but the Germans did not really practice carrier operations in the interwar years and it fell in an awkward position in the various German fiefdoms. It also wasn't particularly necessary. It probably could've been rushed into service with an air complement but it probably would've been somewhere around the IJN carriers in 1944 in terms of capability(not much at all). Still, if a TF including it had broken free and gotten into the Atlantic, it would have drawn a disproportionate response.
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chitoryu12 posted:I haven't gotten a DNA test, but my dad's side of the family kept extensive records on their family history back to the 1600s. Their family tree is really big and really Scottish. If it's back to the 1600s I'd be interested to check that out--if any of them went to war in Europe I might be able to find them for you, or know someone who could
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SlothfulCobra posted:Not true, there's also the balloons with bombs that they sent after the US, only one of which hit. One of them blew up over a neighborhood near me and they put up a plaque to commemorate the Japanese balloon bomb that just made everyone wonder what in tarnation just happened
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HEY GUNS posted:My mom's side had decent records but my dad was hampered by the language barrier and the fact that his dad moved countries. I'll send you a PM with what little I have, since I'm intentionally not very close to that side of the family. They're old money douchebags.
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MANime in the sheets posted:How close was the Graf Zeppelin to being ready to conduct operations? I got the vibe the Germans realized it was a huge waste of time/materials pretty early on. It was a realistic threat. After all, the Nazis had already firebombed a Naval Air Station in New Jersey in 1937.
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What to do in an air raid: ROLL UP YOUR SLEEVES AND START WRECKING SOME poo poo FOR UNCLE SAM, SON
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fishmech posted:It was a realistic threat. After all, the Nazis had already firebombed a Naval Air Station in New Jersey in 1937. A+++ A good post
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 The drink is Everclear and Dr Pepper. Best way to use up the bottle. St. Florian is I think one of two addresses in this document pile that still exists, again part of the Detroit area. My mom's side of my family was born and raised in Detroit starting with my grandfather.
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 I was of the understanding that grandpa got an age deferment, but 4A is a “completed service” classification. How would I go about checking records to see if he served?
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chitoryu12 posted:
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HEY GUNS posted:to be baptized five days after birth is unusually quick; Stanley Kozlowski may have been in poor health as an infant Chester was his name. Stanley was his dad, my great-grandfather. Not surprising for a 1916 birth. They had my mom very old (my grandpa was 48 when she was born), so my grandparents were disproportionately old compared to me.
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HEY GUNS posted:get a DNA test, you might be surprised. i found out my dad is equal parts italian, greek, and turkish--we thought his family was just italian. Aren't modern Greeks and Turks basically identical genetically speaking?
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HEY GUNS posted:to be baptized five days after birth is unusually quick; Stanley Kozlowski may have been in poor health as an infant Is it? At least during the Baroque it wasn’t uncommon for Catholics to be baptised very soon after birth no matter the health (and sometimes even before birth  ). Three days afterwards was „normal“ iirc, and sometimes it even happened on the same day. Which is why the mothers were almost never present at the baptism of their children because they were ritually prohibited from entering the church for a while after giving birth. I know that at least in southern Germany/Austria/northern Italy this was common until the late 19th/early 20th century, I‘m pretty sure St John XXIII was one of those same-day baptisms for example and he was born in 1881.
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System Metternich posted:Is it? At least during the Baroque it wasn’t uncommon for Catholics to be baptised very soon after birth no matter the health (and sometimes even before birth i thought you were supposed to wait until 40 days. I was baptized early because I had surgery.
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In Renaissance Florence they were so concerned about infant mortality that they barely bothered to wash the baby before running to the Baptistery.
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chitoryu12 posted:The first of my grandpa’s old WW2 documents. He got a deferral for age after initially being classified 1A, so he never actually served. IDK the milspeak of the era so when you say he got a deferral for age after being classified 1A, what does that mean? Both my grandfathers should have been ineligible but the one who was 16-17 and the one who was 30+ (IIRC) somehow got into the marines. I figure that had to have been by a waiver of some kind e: i meant ineligible lol. Milo and POTUS fucked around with this message at 08:03 on May 3, 2018 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:Pretty much non stop on the west coast in the first few months of the war. Five deaths.
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I'm reading Massie's Catherine the Great and I did not realize that the Russians pulled a Tsushima against the Ottomans. They sailed the Baltic fleet into the Agaean and it worked brilliantly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Turkish_War_(1768%E2%80%931774)#Russian_Mediterranean_expedition Also the picture it paints of Russia as a socioeconomic entity is kinda gross. Half the population is serfs and literally don't own the shirt on their back and can be used for sexual gratification and on the other hand you just need to fart wrong around the empress and you'll get five digit rubles as a present in a diamond-encrusted bucket. Another thing that seemed remarkable was how they raised their kids. For years all Catherine does is hang out at the court and play cards, if she is allowed to see people, and her husband has tin soldiers and drills his servants, and they have basically nothing useful to do. Like Elizabeth had reasons for what she did that are well laid out but it's surprising really that at least Catherine ended up competent to rule after all that. I suppose less putschy courts with a more defined succession process could get away with having their heirs dip their toes in things earlier. aphid_licker fucked around with this message at 10:10 on May 3, 2018 |
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fishmech posted:It was a realistic threat. After all, the Nazis had already firebombed a Naval Air Station in New Jersey in 1937. jesus CHRIST
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fishmech posted:It was a realistic threat. After all, the Nazis had already firebombed a Naval Air Station in New Jersey in 1937. 
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fishmech posted:It was a realistic threat. After all, the Nazis had already firebombed a Naval Air Station in New Jersey in 1937. Oh the humanity
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Milo and POTUS posted:IDK the milspeak of the era so when you say he got a deferral for age after being classified 1A, what does that mean? Both my grandfathers should have been ineligible but the one who was 16-17 and the one who was 30+ (IIRC) somehow got into the marines. I figure that had to have been by a waiver of some kind 1A is the highest level of Selective Service classification, meaning ideal health and age for military service. On the opposite side, 4F is the lowest and completely ineligible for service due to physical or mental problems.
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fishmech posted:It was a realistic threat. After all, the Nazis had already firebombed a Naval Air Station in New Jersey in 1937. drat
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