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Davros1 posted:I still want to know what Lucas had planned for Eps 7-9 Based in the timeline presented, some of the "guided imagery" from the TFA art book might be from Lucas' version, such as the Millennium Falcon being rediscovered on Felucia, a more alien Kylo Ren stand-in, and a journey to the Death Star II throne room, which sank to the bottom of a lake on Endor.
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SimonCat posted:So you're just talking out your rear end here. I am stating what actually happened in the film. Poe was going all Loose Cannon before Holdo's field promotion and so got cut out of the loop. Was it an optimal decision? Probably not. People don't always make optimal decisions. That's not plot holes, that's just human nature.
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Ingmar terdman posted:Although I hope "Han Solo: liar?" enters the canon of perennial thread topics alongside "are droids people" and "is rey a mary sue" I hope the new movie shows Lando hitting the button on a space stopwatch and saying "Hann, you just did the Kessel run in [#] parsecs" Well again, it’s a literacy test. Nobody actually cares about the fictional obstacle course. And a movie based on that line of dialogue, 40 years later, can only be its own interpretation - or misinterpretation - of the 1978 film. What’s at stake is your ability to read. When the vast majority of Star Wars fans have no clue about what happens in the movie Star Wars, you begin to think that Star Wars fans do not actually like Star Wars. As Bill points out, the fan version of Han Solo - the pure original superhero, raped by George Lucas in their meme - is actually derived from the Special Editions. SE Han is a rockstar pilot who’s not only Jabba’s peer but his friend. SE Han is carefree, spending money like water and routinely killing low-level ‘twerps’ for fun because he’s just that good. Of course fans presume that this Han can’t be wrong; language must be wrong - reality itself must be wrong. (By this same logic, Luke can’t own slaves - therefore, when he chains and whips C3PO, he’s just chaining and whipping his toaster. If Luke were to torture R2D2 to death, this would be a necessary sacrifice to confirm Luke’s axiomatic righteousness.) But the real Han, from the good version of the film, is at the bottom of the totem pole - lower in rank than even Greedo is. He’s bad at his job and hopelessly in debt. He lies and kills out of desperation - and not even to stay alive. Han kills to prevent the confiscation of his last remaining asset: a broken-down cargo boat. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Jan 20, 2020 |
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Even though I think Lucas has become a terrible filmmaker (particularly post-SE), I do like how he intentionally modeled the Empire after America, even though most people still think it was initially modeled after Nazi Germany.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:can only be its own interpretation - or misinterpretation - of the 1978 film. 
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Apr 30, 2018 20:25
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I’m referring, of course, to the Holiday Special.
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maybe the truth is in the middle.
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It's actually pretty interesting to follow the evolution of Han through the various drafts of the script. In the earliest handwritten outline, Han Solo doesn't appear, but "Han Dardell Thorpe" is mentioned as the captain of a galactic cruiser, and the father of the protagonist - Chuiee "C.J." Thorpe Han doesn't appear in the early synopsis based on The Hidden Fortress, but does reappear in the rough draft as "a huge, green skinned monster with no nose and large gills." Here he's an old friend of General Luke Skywalker, and helps Luke and Annikin Starkiller(the young protaginist) smuggle two unconscious young boys offworld in a stolen ship. The first draft is pretty much identical to the rough draft, except some of the characters' names are changed - Annikin Starkiller is now called Justin Valor. The second draft introduces the first human version of Han: Star Wars Second Draft posted:Luke is standing next to HAN SOLO, a young Corellian pirate only a few years older than himself. He is a burly-bearded but ruggedly handsome boy dressed in a gaudy array of flamboyant apparel. In fact, after bullshitting his way into a contract with Luke (who is trying to rescue his older brother from the Empire), it's revealed that Han is just a cabin boy, and works with Chewbacca and a cyborg named Montross to steal the ship before Luke arrives for the trip. By the third draft, Luke is joined by Obi-Wan, and Han is: Star Wars Third Draft posted:a tough James Dean style starpilot about twenty-five years old. A cowboy in a starship — simple, sentimental and cocksure of himself. Han in the fourth draft is described identically to the third, but is aged up by 5 years. By this draft, Harrison Ford had already been cast in the role. The major difference in this version is that the Falcon finally belongs to Han, and he's menaced by an Imperial Officer before he escapes the planet with Luke and Ben. The revised fourth draft, which is what ended up onscreen, swapped the Imperial with Greedo and Jabba, bringing back more of Han's criminal edge. The actor they hired to play the Imperial in the third draft was given a new character, and ended up getting force-choked by Vader.
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Brother Entropy posted:'they died' was genuinely a good response that sums up the problems with being unable to let characters you're attached to have the stories they already have and stop; the happy ending that was achieved in RotJ is undone only a few decades later because disney wanted to give people more han luke and leia It also gave us the loving Hobbit movies.
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Snowman_McK posted:It also gave us the loving Hobbit movies. not one PIEEEEEEEEEECE
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RBA Starblade posted:not Also this: https://youtu.be/g0WDfNKX0Os?t=420
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Gonz posted:Solo is going to feature Han kicking some dude in the balls so hard, the guy shits his pants. because the Ace Ventura version was accidentally sent to theaters instead
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May 1, 2018 02:20
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Allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllrighty then!
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Turtlicious posted:maybe the truth is in the middle. If you displace the truth to mitigate its effects, you aren’t dealing with truth anymore. That’s the thinking that leads to ‘grey jedi’. Like, “yeah bitch I’m a gray jedi; I believe in ethical consumption under capitalism.” If we cut to the chase, fans reject the real Han Solo because he’s poor. He’s poor in an unglamorous way, where bootstraps and technology cannot help him.
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lmfao This is even better than the Goblin Town/Droid Factory versions.
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thrawn527 posted:(height changes based on the people wearing the VR suits. My wife is 4'11" and made for the shortest Stormtrooper I've ever seen). That was one thing that made me laugh in Rogue One. Fortunately their shuttle was to be inspected by the shortest trooper in history so Jyn can fit in the suit.
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SolarFire2 posted:That was one thing that made me laugh in Rogue One. Fortunately their shuttle was to be inspected by the shortest trooper in history so Jyn can fit in the suit. That dude wasn't even a trooper. He was just ground crew. I'm not even joking. He literally waved ships into land, that's their role when they're not fixing poo poo.
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Ash1138 posted:i swear to god i don't remember these fight scenes at all That part where he effortlessly decapitates like 100 orc was only in the extended version. I think if the hobbit had leaned more into stupid poo poo like that, it would have been better.
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On the next Star Wars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6XERmXsP-U Ron Howard summarizes "A New Hope" as if it was "Arrested Development"
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Davros1 posted:On the next Star Wars: See, if Solo was like that, I'd be hype.
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https://twitter.com/StarWarsExplain/status/991769791236014081
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May 3, 2018 00:39
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George convinced Ron to add a character to the movie: Darth Buttlips
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I like that while Ron Howard is wearing an ID badge, but George is like "gently caress it, I'm George Lucas."
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I said it before, but I would love it if George Lucas is secretly the director of Solo.
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sassassin posted:Never trust what a director/writer says about their work, especially a known troll like George Lucas. Han and Luke died already so he’s partially right.
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You know I'm honestly surprised they never made a set of rules for space-chess. It would sell like hotcakes. Sure it would have to use physical pieces instead of holograms but with the advent of video games you could just put it on IPhone instead.
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galagazombie posted:You know I'm honestly surprised they never made a set of rules for space-chess. It would sell like hotcakes. Sure it would have to use physical pieces instead of holograms but with the advent of video games you could just put it on IPhone instead. i'm fairly sure the (extremely bad) star wars mobile game is supposed to be this
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ungulateman posted:i'm fairly sure the (extremely bad) star wars mobile game is supposed to be this Galaxy of Heroes? Nah, beyond your characters being holograms, it's nothing like Dejarik (space chess). You play actual characters, not random monsters, and it's not even remotely like chess like Dejarik is modeled.
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Chewbacca is friend to all children. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIcgRoJBGVk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PeL33x24oI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WacJt0v60Vk
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That looks loving annoying if you're actually looking to board a real plane
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Tickets for Solo are up, FYI
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galagazombie posted:You know I'm honestly surprised they never made a set of rules for space-chess. It would sell like hotcakes. Sure it would have to use physical pieces instead of holograms but with the advent of video games you could just put it on IPhone instead. They did make a sabacc game and space chess side game in the Star Wars Customizable Card Game. By the way if you didn't/don't own SWCCG cards then I am so sorry for your loss. Game owned despite it being convoluted and not well balanced. Flavor text and lore was also good and, unlike legends, is still canon.
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dialhforhero posted:They did make a sabacc game and space chess side game in the Star Wars Customizable Card Game. By the way if you didn't/don't own SWCCG cards then I am so sorry for your loss. Game owned despite it being convoluted and not well balanced. Flavor text and lore was also good and, unlike legends, is still canon. I liked it, but it got way too complicated as time went on. At launch (and for the first couple expansions), it was convoluted, but fine (you could only attack characters at the same location, there would be multiple locations per planet, you'd have to travel to new planets and locations to attack other characters, etc.). But expansion packs started adding epic events, like the ability to blow a planet up, or some other crazy poo poo, and by the time they got to Cloud City they just lost me. You are right that the flavor text and lore were tons of fun.
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Pazaak is way better than sabacc anyways, when is someone gonna make a new pazaak game
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Isn't Pazaak just Black Jack with slightly more interesting cards?
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