|
The valkyrie side punch is the biggest load of horse poo poo in the game. Everything else about them is great, but that move is so goddamn cheap and spammy.
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 10:28
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 9, 2024 08:25 |
|
|
Orange Crush Rush posted:So about the ending: Kratos is stuck in another revenge plot against a Pantheon of Gods, only now it's Feyes, isn't he? She set him up right from the word go to get back at Odin and his crew for what they did to her and the rest of the Giants. Yep that's my take but there's a bit more fuzzy feelings in there.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 10:32
|
|
|
poptart_fairy posted:The valkyrie side punch is the biggest load of horse poo poo in the game. Everything else about them is great, but that move is so goddamn cheap and spammy. They generally only do it if you guard too much so you can bait it and counter.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 10:52
|
|
|
They'll always do that little duck to the side before lunging at you so you'll know it's coming. It's the hardest of their unblockables to react to and if you're unsure you can use charge of the white bear + spartan charge to pass right through it.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 10:55
|
|
|
when does kratos teach the boy how to double jump
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 11:22
|
|
|
I didn't notice it much in my first run but gently caress that kid does some smooth moves. The leap off the back Legolas arrow... Nice one boy.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 11:29
|
|
|
I've nailed 5 of the Valks, hurr, but that move just seemed more irritating than anything - felt I was fighting the camera with it half the time. Game is loving fantastic despite some blips like this.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 11:34
|
|
|
Orange Crush Rush posted:So about the ending: Kratos is stuck in another revenge plot against a Pantheon of Gods, only now it's Feyes, isn't he? She set him up right from the word go to get back at Odin and his crew for what they did to her and the rest of the Giants. I thought is was more We have to protect Atreus from Odin because he is basically the last giant and the combination of Giant and Greek God blood is probably scary enough to terrify Odin/Ra/Dag'dha. Loki/Atreus will likely become one of the most powerful Gods due to his heritage and that's the kind of thing that really freaks out a paranoid sociopath like Odin (plus all the family drama of killing everyone's kids)
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 14:36
|
|
|
Bust Rodd posted:I thought is was more We have to protect Atreus from Odin because he is basically the last giant and the combination of Giant and Greek God blood is probably scary enough to terrify Odin/Ra/Dag'dha. Loki/Atreus will likely become one of the most powerful Gods due to his heritage and that's the kind of thing that really freaks out a paranoid sociopath like Odin (plus all the family drama of killing everyone's kids) Little bit of A, little bit of B, I think.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 14:54
|
|
|
Fedule posted:I don't know how I feel about this game. The thing with games like God of War is that people have grown with this game. Many of the people that have played GoW has teens now have kids. Theres no real separation between the game and their lives. GoW is part of their life. Kratos growing from some "dumb" teenager angry dude into somebody with a gray palette ethic. That kind of speak to them, from inside. Is a stroke of genius. And the game have other strokes of genius. Some of these stroke are so fortunate that is probably more luck than skill. The game kind of overflow of good ideas and is somewhat chaotic at utilizing them well. I think is going to be a better game when the next one release.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 15:43
|
|
|
I played the first God of War when I was almost thirty and love this game so this game's appeal has nothing to do with "growing up" with Kratos.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 16:47
|
|
|
Honestly I think some people just miss Kratos from 1-3 (Forgive me if I trip over myself trying to explain my thoughts. I'm really bad at putting stuff down) Everyone talks about him being a problematic shithead and like, it's true. But also his actual gameplay was satisfying in it's own right and God of War as a whole loses a lot of it's identity just to squeeze into the gruff dad genre. It's as if Dante from the DMC series mellowed the hell out, lost 80% of his weapons, slowed down tremendously, lost a handful of combos and Ebony and Ivory was traded in for a kid. Maybe that game would be cool. Watching once high-octane demon hunter mellow out and try to teach a kid the ropes while making bad dad jokes but uh, you'd also be taking away a lot of what people enjoyed from his series to do it. I think a really easy solution around the problem would of been to just recast Kratos or just have him be a side character or something. I mean wasn't the original pitch that the god of war would be a different one based on the different pantheons?
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 17:00
|
|
|
It was a bold move changing directions but a necessary one too. God of War was getting tired after Ascension (it is very very telling that 1-3 is mentioned extremely often in this thread but Ascension maybe only once or twice, with many posters forgetting GoW2018 is actually the fifth mainline God of War). This was the best possible way to carry on. Resident Evil was the same, after 6 the series was in mortal danger of fading away. 7 was the best thing Capcom could have done, they knew they couldn't keep chasing the RE4 dragon so they worked to their greatest strengths.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 17:12
|
|
|
I don't really have any allegiance to the previous God of War games but I also think it would have been cowardly to completely change protagonists, because a lot of people really did have problems with the character of Kratos and the particular type of hyperviolent masculinity he came to represent. The narrative of this game was made richer for addressing them and now it feels like the series can move on in a fresh new direction.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 17:14
|
|
|
This was my first God of War game. I read a summary of what happened in the previous games. It probably skewed the impact of some things, but I think I understood enough to get what was going on at least. I still enjoyed the heck out of the game.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 17:16
|
|
|
I did like 5 Valkyries in a night they're incredibly easy if you remember a few key things: -Get the loving enchantment that enhances your dodge like holy poo poo -Immediately push in with your runic attacks the second they start unfolding their wings -Rage mode heals you -Spam BOY -Getting your gear up to par is a huge make or break deal. I struggled with a couple that I came back to a few hours of loving around later and stomped them pretty easily using the above tips. The Polygon guide is pretty handy in this regard, honestly. Crossing the barrier from "this is loving bullshit" to wiping the floor with them is a genuinely satisfying moment.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 17:20
|
|
|
I only played the three numbered games before this, and when played in order you clearly see the guy get more unhinged even when you think he peaked. It would be stupid to push it even further. It's good that they calmed him the gently caress down. It's the most sensible direction.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 17:24
|
|
|
I really thought this game was going to stink before it came out. I'm shocked at how much the little loving details have blown me away, as someone who was precisely the target demographic of a angry young teen when the first God of War came out over a decade ago, loved it a great deal without sticking through 2 and 3, and as someone who has had ten years to go through a lot and grow with that, that loving moment in the opening where Kratos fiddles with the bandages on his arm, really shook me. Like... it's really hard to explain, but they told the entire story between 3 and now with that moment alone. I was really blown away by the sheer restraint they showed in moving that character forward into something less toxic and over the top. You watch this story unfold and Kratos is a man who feels shame for the things he's done, knows how he has to change as that shame begins to hurt those around him, and later on actually starts sharing things from his past that he's proud of with his son. I'm a little exhausted by the repetitiveness of the side content and the more puzzle-y stuff, but I really do love the story and how the combat progresses and opens up, I think it's a huge... step forward, I guess, for people that enjoyed that original God of War trilogy.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 17:32
|
|
|
Dumb question: when I complete the different achievements in the journal (kill 50 enemies with heavy cleave, kill 50 draugr, etc.) do I automatically get those XP bonuses, or do I have to somehow go to the journal and "claim" the reward by pressing something? I don't think I've seen any pop-ups saying "Yay, you did a thing! Here's 250XP!" but it seems to be listed as complete in the journal.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 17:39
|
|
|
I spent a good chunk of time beating last night beating Valkyries. I've killed all of them but one now. As the night went on I went from seriously struggling, to beating the 6th and 7th one on my first try. While all of them are ultimately unique they ultimately all take moves from the same pool with only a few exceptions. The biggest thing I learned while fighting them is how incredibly good runic attacks are. I got really good at draining 1/4th to 1/3rd of a health bar by basically hitting them with R1 to see if I would get a stagger, then continuing with a full combo of Runic attacks from both weapons. I guess my major tips would be: 1. Block block block, and block some more, then dodge when you need to. It took trial and lots of error but eventually I just got used to sitting behind my shield and knowing when I needed to dodge. 2. Whether or not attempting to parry is a good idea is entirely dependent on which valkyrie you're fighting. Some of them have highly telegraphed parryable attacks which you should 100% parry because a parry is a guaranteed stagger. Others have almost no telegraphed parryable attacks and instead use almost all unblockables. 3. Some Valkyries have interruptible attacks. These attacks usually have large wind ups and failing to interrupt them usually leads to a screen wide unblockable. Make sure you have your axe handy. This particular tip was probably the biggest thing I had to learn because the Valkyries that have these attacks are *really* hard to beat if you're not interrupting them. 4. Although most unblockables can just be sidestepped there is at least one attack that is designed to punish a sidestep dash and it's a doozy. The ones that have this were a particular issue for me. In any case, when I got to the point where I stomped a pair of Valkyries on my first try felt really good. So I would suggest to anyone not to give up on these fights. They're ultimately worth it.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 17:41
|
|
|
Taintrunner posted:I really thought this game was going to stink before it came out. I'm shocked at how much the little loving details have blown me away, as someone who was precisely the target demographic of a angry young teen when the first God of War came out over a decade ago, loved it a great deal without sticking through 2 and 3, and as someone who has had ten years to go through a lot and grow with that, that loving moment in the opening where Kratos fiddles with the bandages on his arm, really shook me. Like... it's really hard to explain, but they told the entire story between 3 and now with that moment alone. I was really blown away by the sheer restraint they showed in moving that character forward into something less toxic and over the top. You watch this story unfold and Kratos is a man who feels shame for the things he's done, knows how he has to change as that shame begins to hurt those around him, and later on actually starts sharing things from his past that he's proud of with his son. I'm a little exhausted by the repetitiveness of the side content and the more puzzle-y stuff, but I really do love the story and how the combat progresses and opens up, I think it's a huge... step forward, I guess, for people that enjoyed that original God of War trilogy. Definitely with you on this one. A huge part of the game's draw for me was seeing an older Kratos 14 years after the first time. I was a kid back then, today not so much. The missus is talking about kids of her own. Guys who were young, brash & angry back then who are now older & more grounded in reality today is a pretty large demographic. It's no surprise the game got such a good reception.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 17:55
|
|
|
Kratos developed into the best straight man of a duo, and that's just perfect.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 18:01
|
|
|
The Macaroni posted:Dumb question: when I complete the different achievements in the journal (kill 50 enemies with heavy cleave, kill 50 draugr, etc.) do I automatically get those XP bonuses, or do I have to somehow go to the journal and "claim" the reward by pressing something? I don't think I've seen any pop-ups saying "Yay, you did a thing! Here's 250XP!" but it seems to be listed as complete in the journal. As far as I can tell you just get it. You probably are getting the popups, but they're generally coming up /during combat and down in the corner or something so you're just not seeing them. I know I saw a couple happen during combat but I missed most of them and still got the XP as far as I know. I am sitting on some comical amount of XP right now, 80k+ or something, after beating the game. XP is plentiful.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 18:17
|
|
|
Tei posted:The thing with games like God of War is that people have grown with this game. Many of the people that have played GoW has teens now have kids. yeah i think they went overboard on crafting. Enchantments i think should have been more limited instead of the kind of randomly generated thing there is now.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 18:59
|
|
|
All of the valkyries are "tough but fair" except Sigrun, that fight is terrible.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 19:59
|
|
|
Fedule posted:I don't know how I feel about this game. Meanwhile, Celeste I would have happily paid $100 for - clearly the emotional mountain game of the year 2018.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 20:32
|
|
|
So everyone is choosing Sindri's Armor over Brok's, right? It seems like a no-brainer to me.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 20:59
|
|
|
So I have a dumb theory that's probably been brought up. Mimir is Odin in disguise. He traveled with Kratos/Atreus to learn more about them and discover the location to Jotunheim, there's probably some lore reason he can't enter it himself, hence why he told them he'd stay behind during the ending. He probably knows Kratos/Atreus figure into Ragnarok prophecy somehow. I feel like this'll be revealed in subsequent games, but I just got this strong feeling that as a twist this one makes sense. There's also some random dialogue throughout the game where he keeps info from you and Atreus/Kratos calls him on it, and he's like "whoops I dunno why I kept that from you."
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 21:14
|
|
|
qbert posted:So I have a dumb theory that's probably been brought up. Mimir is Odin in disguise. He traveled with Kratos/Atreus to learn more about them and discover the location to Jotunheim, there's probably some lore reason he can't enter it himself, hence why he told them he'd stay behind during the ending. He probably knows Kratos/Atreus figure into Ragnarok prophecy somehow. Freya would probably have figured this out
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 21:16
|
|
|
qbert posted:So I have a dumb theory that's probably been brought up. Mimir is Odin in disguise. He traveled with Kratos/Atreus to learn more about them and discover the location to Jotunheim, there's probably some lore reason he can't enter it himself, hence why he told them he'd stay behind during the ending. He probably knows Kratos/Atreus figure into Ragnarok prophecy somehow. Yeah, I kept waiting for some sort of betrayal by Mimir and was pleased that it didn't go that way. Could still see it happening later on as you're speculating
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 21:17
|
|
|
qbert posted:There's also some random dialogue throughout the game where he keeps info from you and Atreus/Kratos calls him on it, and he's like "whoops I dunno why I kept that from you."[/spoiler] There's also dialogue that says he's ensorcelled and can't thing/talk about certain things.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 21:31
|
|
|
haveblue posted:All of the valkyries are "tough but fair" except Sigrun, that fight is terrible. I was bitching about the other ones the other night but they all pale in comparison to the BS that is Sigrun. I can't even beat her.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 21:34
|
|
|
So I got the goal to get the magic chisel. What should be a good stat spread around these levels? Say I focus on Defense and Attack. I'm enjoying the game quite a bit, but I think it's despite the combat. It's just not gelling with me. Enemies are just damage sponges, and outside the runic attacks it's just using the same boring combo over and over again. I made the mistake of starting on the 3rd difficulty, which allows you to take two hits and it takes about seventeen thousand to take down a normal draugr. It's just not fun, even when playing well it's just a tedious grind of whittling down these enemies.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 21:44
|
|
|
Megaman's Jockstrap posted:There's also dialogue that says he's ensorcelled and can't thing/talk about certain things. Yeah, that mainly related to stuff about Baldur and his weaknesses. But there's other stuff, like Freya being the queen of the Valkyries, that Kratos asks him about not mentioning and he has no good excuse. Jimbot posted:So I got the goal to get the magic chisel. What should be a good stat spread around these levels? Say I focus on Defense and Attack. I'm enjoying the game quite a bit, but I think it's despite the combat. It's just not gelling with me. Enemies are just damage sponges, and outside the runic attacks it's just using the same boring combo over and over again. I made the mistake of starting on the 3rd difficulty, which allows you to take two hits and it takes about seventeen thousand to take down a normal draugr. It's just not fun, even when playing well it's just a tedious grind of whittling down these enemies. The secret that the game doesn't do a good job of explaining is that your character level is way more important than your individual stats. Like being level 4 is a huge improvement over level 3 in terms of dealing damage, taking damage, parrying attacks, etc. You should basically just equip the gear/enchantments with the highest levels, then swap out what you want as long as it doesn't take you down a level. qbert fucked around with this message at 21:48 on May 4, 2018 |
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 21:46
|
|
|
qbert posted:The secret that the game doesn't do a good job of explaining is that your character level is way more important than your individual stats. Like being level 4 is a huge improvement over level 3 in terms of dealing damage, taking damage, parrying attacks, etc. You should basically just equip the gear/enchantments with the highest levels, then swap out what you want as long as it doesn't take you down a level. I figured it was important but wasn't that important. I'll give it a shot. I think for the next game, they shouldn't design by committee and lock the "RPG stats and level" guy out of the designer's room. It's just a terrible loving thing.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 21:51
|
|
|
qbert posted:So I have a dumb theory that's probably been brought up. Mimir is Odin in disguise. He traveled with Kratos/Atreus to learn more about them and discover the location to Jotunheim, there's probably some lore reason he can't enter it himself, hence why he told them he'd stay behind during the ending. He probably knows Kratos/Atreus figure into Ragnarok prophecy somehow.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 21:52
|
|
|
DaveKap posted:I thought the reason Mimir kept stuff from you was because Freya placed a curse on him to completely forget what Baldur's weakness is. Also this twist sorta flies in the face of the giants trusting mimir with those eyes. That said, the idea Mimir can't actually enter Jotunheim at all could make for some kind of interesting checkov's gun. I think Mimir not being able to enter Jotunheim is a bit of a stretch, he said he didn't want to come along because it was a personal moment for Kratos and Atreus. And it seemed pretty honest (and made sense) to me. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 22:05 on May 4, 2018 |
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 22:02
|
|
|
Sure, I didn't actually take it to mean anything at the time and really don't still. I'm just saying it would make for a good twist down the line.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 22:03
|
|
|
Ah, I misunderstood. Also I missed; that this isn't the spoiler thread, I'll put in tags.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 22:05
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 9, 2024 08:25 |
|
|
Finished the main story last night, GoW deserved every bit of hype it got. I'm gonna put it down and play other stuff until I have an appetite for valkyries and mist dungeons and hopefully NG+ gets patched in, but I'm definitely coming back to it at some point. The combat is so good
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2018 22:47
|
|
