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DariusLikewise posted:In Manitoba if you get caught not yielding to a crosswalk 3 times in a 2 year period your yearly license renewal will cost you about $2000 Yes, that's the problem. Rich people can absorb that, poor people cannot. Either you are able to drive safely, or you aren't. If you demonstrate a pattern of driving dangerously, with disregard for the safety of others, it should not matter how much money you do or do not have, you should have your right to drive taken away -- temporarily at first, and later permanently if you just don't learn.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:To the surprise of no one, Alberta is full of morons. Ah yes, the infamous "I'm fiscally conservative but socially liberal", which really means "I only care about poo poo that matters to me personally and gently caress the rest".
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May 4, 2018 15:29
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DariusLikewise posted:In Manitoba if you get caught not yielding to a crosswalk 3 times in a 2 year period your yearly license renewal will cost you about $2000 In Manitoba crosswalks are a hosed up situation all together because drivers either don't stop at all, stop in the middle, or slam on their brakes before the lights even start flashing. Pedestrians on the other hand quite often mash the button and step out into traffic without even braking stride to make sure people are stopping.
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May 4, 2018 15:36
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EvilJoven posted:In Manitoba crosswalks are a hosed up situation all together because drivers either don't stop at all, stop in the middle, or slam on their brakes before the lights even start flashing. If there's a pedestrian at the crosswalk and they're about to push the button, you should still stop just as if there were a crosswalk with no lights on it and a pedestrian about to cross.
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May 4, 2018 15:39
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And this is how you get people just standing there on their phones, or waiting for a friend, or loving with their purse, or having a cig causing people to stop for no reason. When I lived in Ontario those lighted crosswalks were treated the same way as a yellow traffic control light. Don't stop until the actual light comes on, when the light comes on stop unless unsafe to do so, and if you're a pedestrian hitting the light make sure you check to make sure people are stopping before you step your dumb rear end out into traffic. I absolutely hate how society has prioritized vehicles over pedestrians but the prairie method of mashing the light and immediately stepping off is dumb as all hell.
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May 4, 2018 15:58
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Every time I try to use the crosswalk by my house I mentally prepare myself to die
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May 4, 2018 16:06
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EvilJoven posted:And this is how you get people just standing there on their phones, or waiting for a friend, or loving with their purse, or having a cig causing people to stop for no reason. Oh yeah, but at the same time, if there's a pedestrian near the crosswalk, you should prepare yourself for the possibility that the lights will come on any second so you're able to stop. If you're watching them press the button, you know what comes next.
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May 4, 2018 16:07
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PT6A posted:The problem with simply making the rich pay more is that it still doesn't get them off the road, and it makes it even more attractive to rely on traffic tickets as a source of revenue, which is bad. Whatever system exists should, to the maximum extent possible, remove that motivation altogether. It's not about fairness per se, it's about getting dangerous drivers off the road. I agree When I meant punishment being proportional to the means, I was not only referring to financial costs. You've said it: the purpose should be public safety. I for one would find it hilarious for the cops to start targeting luxury vehicles 
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May 4, 2018 16:08
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EvidenceBasedQuack posted:I agree That's fair, but at a certain point we have to recognize that because our society is built around car use, and anything which interferes with an individual's ability to use a car is going to disproportionately affect people with fewer other options. Yet if we want dangerous drivers off the road, we must, by definition, interfere with their ability to drive a car at some point. The ideal solution for this, like so many things, is to make public transit better.
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May 4, 2018 16:13
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quote:The only free speech stalwart on Wilfrid Laurier University’s free expression task force has temporarily resigned. It'd be way more fair to just charge an admission to protesters.
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May 4, 2018 16:39
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So is there any news on what this Erin Weir guy did or is he just guilty of being an autist? Doesn't seem like a good news item for the NDP either way. Seems like a good sounding horn for idiots. "SEE? ME TOO HAS GONE TOO FAR"
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May 4, 2018 16:47
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Postess with the Mostest posted:It'd be way more fair to just charge an admission to protesters. Seems like there's an easy solution which is to organize right-wing protesters to left-wing speakers though? Or would that be too much work for this dude?
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May 4, 2018 16:54
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quote:This just gets more and more ridiculous. I bet WLU doesn't charge $5K+ in security fees for every transgender intersectional feminist guest lecturer that speaks on campus, but of course if the lecturer goes against the narrative, then they need to raise security because the left-wing students might get violent. No logic here.
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May 4, 2018 17:00
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vyelkin posted:Seems like there's an easy solution which is to organize right-wing protesters to left-wing speakers though? Or would that be too much work for this dude? Okay, free speech group, the easy solution to your problem is to go protest the speech of other people. Make Joseph Heller proud.
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May 4, 2018 17:16
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EvilJoven posted:I absolutely hate how society has prioritized vehicles over pedestrians but the prairie method of mashing the light and immediately stepping off is dumb as all hell. The problem is just that Winnipeg is just big enough to actually have regular pedestrians in busier areas but small enough that people have the rural mentality where seeing an actual person walking around isn't something you have to account for (*). The whole "just big enough to have problem A" but "small enough that people don't think about problem A" is a common one in Winnipeg. Growing pains. (*) exacerbated by suburban sprawl where many people rarely actually go to densely populated areas so they don't think about pedestrian traffic as a thing
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May 4, 2018 17:30
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Okay, free speech group, the easy solution to your problem is to go protest the speech of other people. Make Joseph Heller proud. It's pretty easy to frame that as "you have the right to speak, and we also have the right to speak by publicly displaying our disapproval of the content of your speech."
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May 4, 2018 17:31
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Hey Canada thread. I am arguing on Facebook right now with some BC libertarian about why the private sector is better than the government in providing social services for everyone and I feel like I have to drink a gallon of leaded paint just to understand this. I didn't even know BC had libertarians but since the NDP dared to propose a .2% property tax raise to property worth more than 3 million to pay for education and school seismic upgrades they have crawled out of the woodwork. I think someone unironically said taxation is akin to slavery and someone said education is a waste of money anyway. That is my story. I weep now.
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May 4, 2018 17:31
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Madkal posted:I am arguing on Facebook right now with some BC libertarian You should do something more satisfying and likely to succeed such as discussing poetry with a rock or discussing your favourite album with a bag of sand.
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May 4, 2018 17:33
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What am I missing about the Erin Weir story? from the cbc article "What, exactly, did Weir do in the first place? Again, that is unclear. Singh said the investigation "found that Mr. Weir failed to read non-verbal cues in social settings and that his behaviour resulted in significant negative impacts to the complainants." It also noted that Weir stopped his advances when he was told they were unwanted. Weir's office has characterized these encounters as completely innocuous: "The investigator made a general finding of 'sexual harassment' that Weir had probably sat or stood too close to people at social events and engaged them in conversation more than they wished to speak with him." Fired for standing close to people and talking to them for too long?
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May 4, 2018 17:34
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InfiniteZero posted:The problem is just that Winnipeg is just big enough to actually have regular pedestrians in busier areas but small enough that people have the rural mentality where seeing an actual person walking around isn't something you have to account for (*). Counter-point, Brandon only has one or two actual pedestrian corridors and almost every driver will slam on their brakes just to let you cross wherever you feel here, it is amazing.
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May 4, 2018 17:37
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I hate it when I'm trying to cross the street without a signal or crosswalk and people stop for me. Take your right of way, I'm already assuming you will and taking that into account!
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vyelkin posted:It's pretty easy to frame that as "you have the right to speak, and we also have the right to speak by publicly displaying our disapproval of the content of your speech." Well yeah but if they actually only do that, the left wouldn't need to spend any security money right? The incentive is now there for the right to break windows, pull fire alarms, wear masks and engage in the type of lowbrow behaviour that requires increased spending on security. Luckily, it doesn't seem like they have much of an appetite for that.
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May 4, 2018 17:50
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Hold your event privately if you don’t want to pay the costs associated with renting a space? Why should the university (and thus tax payers) have to pay the cost of security so you can peddle your hate speech?
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May 4, 2018 18:07
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PT6A posted:I hate it when I'm trying to cross the street without a signal or crosswalk and people stop for me. Take your right of way, I'm already assuming you will and taking that into account! Also a pet peeve of mine. Please just go, you got to the intersection first and have the right of way. Especially since it's often hard or impossible to see whatever waving/hand gestures the driver is making due to angle or glare or reflections off their windshield.
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May 4, 2018 18:17
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I don't understand why we absolutely need Faith Goldy to go around spewing literal white nationalist views on campuses. Why can't they invite some moderate right-wing speakers? Where are all the invites for the leadership of the CPC-ML party?
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Well yeah but if they actually only do that, the left wouldn't need to spend any security money right? The incentive is now there for the right to break windows, pull fire alarms, wear masks and engage in the type of lowbrow behaviour that requires increased spending on security. Luckily, it doesn't seem like they have much of an appetite for that. why are you handwringing about literal white nationalists being shutdown by "lowbrow behaviour" if these scum had the numbers they wish they had they would absolutely do it to feminist speakers, indigenous activists, transpeople. they already gang up and harass people off social media just for speaking out against them Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 18:38 on May 4, 2018 |
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DariusLikewise posted:I don't understand why we absolutely need Faith Goldy to go around spewing literal white nationalist views on campuses. Why can't they invite some moderate right-wing speakers? Where are all the invites for the leadership of the CPC-ML party? The alt-right loves playing the oppression Olympics and pretending to be victims while crying crocodile tears about the evils of the intolerant left who for some reason just wont let them make their arguments for systemic discrimination and ethnic cleansing without protesting. For example see all of Postess’ stupid rear end takes in this thread THC posted:why are you handwringing about literal white nationalists being shutdown by "lowbrow behaviour" Why would the guy constantly talking about Jordan Peterson and the alt-lite in a favourable fashion have a problem with people protesting a literal white nationalist. hmmmh real mystery here A Typical Goon fucked around with this message at 18:38 on May 4, 2018 |
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May 4, 2018 18:35
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Well yeah but if they actually only do that, the left wouldn't need to spend any security money right? The incentive is now there for the right to break windows, pull fire alarms, wear masks and engage in the type of lowbrow behaviour that requires increased spending on security. Luckily, it doesn't seem like they have much of an appetite for that. Yes Because they're hypocritical cowards that cry persecution whenever their proud boy initiation beat-down is disturbed.
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May 4, 2018 18:48
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Man I'm still voting NDP but why do they make it so hard
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MA-Horus posted:Yes Meanwhile if you’re an indigenous woman academic who just says “yo these literal Nazis constantly trying to organize at my workplace are kinda making me feel unsafe” they call you a professional victim and sic their online fans on you until you private all your accounts and move back in with your parents, who will also be harassed by online men from Ohio with names like James or Alex or whatever Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 19:11 on May 4, 2018 |
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flashy_mcflash posted:Man I'm still voting NDP but why do they make it so hard "May the 4th" bullshit aside, if they're supposed to be the good guys, why is she holding a red lightsaber? Only the bad guys use a red one!
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mojo1701a posted:"May the 4th" bullshit aside, if they're supposed to be the good guys, why is she holding a red lightsaber? Only the bad guys use a red one! I think it's supposed to be orange. The conservative one was cringier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHXvLfi12m0
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mojo1701a posted:"May the 4th" bullshit aside, if they're supposed to be the good guys, why is she holding a red lightsaber? Only the bad guys use a red one! it's orange
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Martian Manfucker posted:it's orange Is it? poo poo, must be the colour balance on my work monitor.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:I think it's supposed to be orange. The conservative one was cringier Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Just lol if your immediate idea for a Conservative Star Wars day doesn't involve Hutts, now that a Ford is back in the mix. Granted, most Hutts are probably slimmer, more pleasant to deal with and slightly less likely to be involved with organized crime, but 
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I so want John Oliver to do a And Now This segment on baffling star Wars related ads for Canadian politicians.
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