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Beef posted:Brussels emergency vehicle operators would probably love to have the option to smash into some dumbfucks in traffic. The siren on this sounds kinda... pleasant and musical. Needs something more like the air horns in this vidya: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8N-ilVnA2o
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Beef posted:Brussels emergency vehicle operators would probably love to have the option to smash into some dumbfucks in traffic. I learned things from this: That Cities: Skylines game is hilariously life like for emergency vehicles as long as you're living European. Also America's emergency vehicles sound way nastier, angry, and will tell people to gently caress off via bull horn if needed.
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evil_bunnY posted:Put it this way: what purpose does an urban patrol serve when the entire time a vehicle is out of the wire its occupants fear attack and antagonize the local population. It’s literally risking your life to make the situation worse. Look dude the Lt has to fill the boxes on his Daily Patrol Matrix spreadsheet or he gets yelled at by the Captain who gets yelled at by the Major who gets yelled at by the Colonel who gets yelled at by the General this is all clearly laid out in FM-ID10T Counterinsurgency Tactics For Losing Another Pointless Hellwar.
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There's also the fact that other countries' forces make fun or used to make fun of the American approach. It's very likely partially true and partially spin, but documentaries tend to depict British, Polish and other forces spending much more time talking to the local population and they are shown stopping and even walking around cities all the time. There's usually a comment included about how Americans just lock themselves off and don't bother or actively provoke instead.
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evil_bunnY posted:Put it this way: what purpose does an urban patrol serve when the entire time a vehicle is out of the wire its occupants fear attack and antagonize the local population. It’s literally risking your life to make the situation worse. 
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I don't know where to post this https://i.imgur.com/bO3v5bT.mp4 Brown trousers time in Hawaii I guess. Or it's Tuesday. I'd expect living on volcano country makes you weird.
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Karate Bastard posted:I don't know where to post this A bit later in that video: https://i.imgur.com/zfvTEdJ.mp4
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The volcanism happening right now is kind of the least of their worries. The massive seismic events they're experiencing indicate that the magma chamber that is venting right now is enormous, so the poo poo spewing out of the earth is only going to get significantly worse. Leilani Estates won't be there by the end of it. Someone who knows more about insurance than I do, is that covered? People have already lost their houses, lots more are going to by the end of this. Seems like insurance is only for things you can't see coming; building a house in Hawaii and then having that house eaten by lava is pretty foreseeable.
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Memento posted:The volcanism happening right now is kind of the least of their worries. The massive seismic events they're experiencing indicate that the magma chamber that is venting right now is enormous, so the poo poo spewing out of the earth is only going to get significantly worse. I dunno, but I saw an interview with one couple living there and they said when they bought the house they were given a choice between hurricane and volcano insurance. They chose hurricane.
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I don't know what the exact solution is, but this isn't the first time it's happened so I assume they have contingency plans. Kilauea has been inundating the eastern end of the island with lava periodically for decades now, and there's lots of videos of houses going up in flames from it. For people living there, it seems more of a "when" than "if" scenario.
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Enourmo posted:This whole video is full of quote:Holland responded by laughing and calling one of the crew members "a pussy". Lol, this guy was literally Lord Flashheart.
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maneuvers but the Yakima footage at 4:10 is particularly damning. This clip ends with the time his hubris finally caught up with him, taking his whole flight crew (consisting of senior officers who were ostensibly there to rein in his recklessness, but failed to intervene) in the process.
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Whooping Crabs posted:Ohh here here he comes  This is the good poo poo, right here.
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Fabulousity posted:I learned things from this: That Cities: Skylines game is hilariously life like for emergency vehicles as long as you're living European. Also America's emergency vehicles sound way nastier, angry, and will tell people to gently caress off via bull horn if needed. American emergency vehicles have to deal with American drivers. It's completely justified. Almost weekly I see assholes either ignoring or outright trying to beat an emergency vehicle somewhere.
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Carbon dioxide posted:I dunno, but I saw an interview with one couple living there and they said when they bought the house they were given a choice between hurricane and volcano insurance. They chose hurricane. What happens if a hurricane hits a volcano that'd be amazing
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The volcano doesn't notice. I guess maybe the lava cools marginally faster?
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Synthbuttrange posted:What happens if a hurricane hits a volcano that'd be amazing The volcano is more likely to cause a storm because of all the rising air.
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Carbon dioxide posted:I dunno, but I saw an interview with one couple living there and they said when they bought the house they were given a choice between hurricane and volcano insurance. They chose hurricane. Kilauea has been erupting continuously since 1983 (Wikipedia) while only one Cat 4, four tropical depressions, and two tropical storms have made landfall in that time period; most storms pass by the islands causing minor damage. That couple chose poorly.
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Synthbuttrange posted:What happens if a hurricane hits a volcano A Michael Bay film. No longer OSHA since they invented the telephoto lens: http://volcano.oregonstate.edu/lightning_gallery
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HisMajestyBOB posted:Kilauea has been erupting continuously since 1983 (Wikipedia) while only one Cat 4, four tropical depressions, and two tropical storms have made landfall in that time period; most storms pass by the islands causing minor damage. I agree with the "not if, but when" statement. I mean, you guys built/bought your house, located on the side of a reasonably active volcano, in a chain of volcanic islands. If you live there long enough, there will be a day when your house burns down. We have a major river running through the town that I live in, and at least every other Spring (seems to be every Spring as of the last 10 years or so), the river floods. The number of houses being built in the floodplain is mind boggling. I mean, NOAA and USGS have clearly mapped where the floodplain is, yet you still built your house there. It's another "not if, but when" scenario which happens more frequently. This Spring we had massive amounts of rain in April, and the river flooded, as usual. Local newspaper headline read "Residents of [blah blah] Development Angered at County For Not Protecting Their Homes Against Spring Floods". I mean, c'mon.
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I don't get insurance companies. How is it not: Yes hello I'd like lava insurance please! "Okay where do you live?" On an active volcanhello? ...Hello?
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Synthbuttrange posted:What happens if a hurricane hits a volcano that'd be amazing This happens: 
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Johnny Aztec posted:This happens: Now Playing: Immigrant Song - Led Zeppelin
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Ak Gara posted:I don't get insurance companies. How is it not: Yeah and what's the deal with life insurance, I mean everybody dies. Johnny Aztec posted:This happens: Isn't that lightning from static buildup in the ash cloud? As opposed to an existing thunderstorm that coincided with it.
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Ak Gara posted:I don't get insurance companies. How is it not: 1.) The insurance company figures that your house costs 100K$ to rebuild if it gets burnt down by the volcano. 2.) The in insurance company calls up a geologist or two to find out how often you house is going to burn down. Maybe every 20 years or so. 3.) If they have to pay 100K$ every 20 years that averages out to 5k$ per year. Since they want to make a profit they charge you 6K$ a year and basically bet money that you don't get volcanoed more often than they predicted. Averaged over time you end up paying more but you also don't end up homeless if your house gets obliterated by lava and you don't have 100K$ in your savings account.
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Ak Gara posted:I don't get insurance companies. How is it not: It's actually more like Yes hello I'd like lava insurance please! "Okay where do you live?" On an active volcano "Ooh, that sounds dangerous, we'll have to charge you $5000 a year I guess i have to pay that, i need insurance because i live on a volcano *5 years of paying $5000 a year for insurance later* Hello insurance man, the volcano went off and the lava flow burned my house down "oooh, that sucks, looking at your policy, it only covers damage directly from eruptions, not from the lava flow" But i specifically paid for volcano coverage "yeah, but you didn't choose the extended lava flow coverage, sorry, good luck with your house though, and thanks for all that money"
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Johnny Aztec posted:This happens: 
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You can't fool me, that's obviously Godzilla... 
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Powershift posted:It's actually more like This has to be illegal or something.
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GotLag posted:
No it's Mustafar
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HardDiskD posted:This has to be illegal or something. It's a broker's job to explain this to customers when they are buying their policy but many are lazy. Also it often goes "Give me the cheapest rate" For $20 more a month more you can be covered for overland flooding too, You only got the basic flood package right now so... "Cheapest option to shut my bank up!!!" *20 years later* "loving insurance company is using some bullshit saying my flood was overland flooding to not pay out!!! Should be illegal!!"
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Bistromatic posted:1.) The insurance company figures that your house costs 100K$ to rebuild if it gets burnt down by the volcano. In the case of guaranteed disasters though it does start charging you like its your personal disaster bank account. Its a real problem because of changing risk profiles because of global warming and crowding in limited social spaces. The answer a lot of people come up with is "just move" but being told where to live is generally regarded as fascist and one of the last times it was implemented they up and replaced the government with actual communism. The other part of that equation is we're already using the easiest to use land just because its easiest. Its not like the people ending up on flood plains and volcanos are like gently caress yall I want the danger zone, its toxic property being sold at hard to ignore prices to people just looking to own a home and aren't educated on the total cost and alternatives mean moving away from your family or hours long commutes to your only means of employment.
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The UK has a huge problem with flood insurance because the government kept pushing new developments on flood plains instead of redeveloping former industrial ground in towns. The insurance companies are, predictably, trying to recoup losses by loving anyone they can. In the forty odd years since construction my house and the houses parallel along the street have been dry, but the back garden (which the other houses lack) is on a significantly lower level, and partially floods on occasion. So the insurers charge us the the same as they do the houses in a street behind us built decades later and on lower ground than the part of my garden which floods. One year we had to go without flood cover because we simply couldn't afford to pay an insurance rate more than twenty times higher than our neighbours on the same height and distance from the water. Insurance companies are cunts.
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GotLag posted:The volcano doesn't notice. I'm picturing the lava cooling from the wind and rain and then 200mph gusts whipping thousands of lava rocks into windows and people.
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The proper fix is to stop offering such granular insurance to mortgaged houses. Make obtaining/selecting the insurance the responsibility of the loanholder, and just roll the insurance into the loan payments. If a "standard"disaster for the area isn't covered, it's the bank's problem to make right
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Memento posted:The volcanism happening right now is kind of the least of their worries. The massive seismic events they're experiencing indicate that the magma chamber that is venting right now is enormous, so the poo poo spewing out of the earth is only going to get significantly worse. ISO Homeowners policies cover Volcanic Eruption. If you get Earthquake and Flood as well you'll be pretty well covered. The pricing would probably be...substantial. Baronjutter posted:It's a broker's job to explain this to customers when they are buying their policy but many are lazy. Also it often goes This happens all the loving time. It gets even worse when you are dealing with C-Levels. "BUT WE HAVE INSURANCE! " "Not for this, here's the email where we spelled out the exact scenario that occured where this would afford coverage and here is your email telling us to gently caress off." A lot of the time it is the same person that is freaking out at us now. It is something that should give you schadenfreude, but it never really does since the situation just sucks all around.
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HardDiskD posted:This has to be illegal or something.  People are dumb and cheap.
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duz posted:
Or something along those lines, I'm no insurance newser.
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Memento posted:"should I tell someone that my factory that's on fire has magnesium strips and swarf in it? Nahh, they'll figure it out" The ultimate flashbang.
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