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It seems like having several pools will be more beneficial in the hardest difficultys where fights are lasting a while
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Evil Canadian posted:Oh I thought it was before the idea was the multi-class characters get way more abilities in the end. I guess it just means now they have a larger overall pool to pull from but that's it. Honestly that kinda takes the shine off multi-classing for me then if that's what that means then. Multiclassing is still very powerful, but it's no longer the case that throwing two classes together is better in all cases. You need to actually select some stuff that synergizes well together. Good class synergies can be more than worth the loss of 8th/9th level abilities.
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# ? May 5, 2018 22:33 |
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frajaq posted:According to the devs, you'll miss only some very minor stuff I'm still super curious as to what that minor stuff will be. Captain Oblivious posted:Multiclassing is still very powerful, but it's no longer the case that throwing two classes together is better in all cases. You need to actually select some stuff that synergizes well together. Good class synergies can be more than worth the loss of 8th/9th level abilities. Yep! I suspect multiclassing in of itself will be neither overpowered nor underpowered; it's all about the combos you find.
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# ? May 5, 2018 22:34 |
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Completely unrelated, but I've been talking about how the Animal Companions of multiclass Rangers are weaker than those of single class Rangers a couple of times in the last few days. I definitely remember reading that on the official forums at some point. But it's not consistent with how summons (that scale with level, not Power Level) and a couple of other things in the game work so I just checked that again right now. And animal companions do in fact also scale with level, so the animal companion of a multiclass Ranger will be as good as that of a single class Ranger before abilities are taken into account. Which makes multiclass Rangers a lot more desirable than I thought. It's especially nice for pairing a martial and a caster class without having to go crazy over casting times because oh no the opportunity costs! Definitely making Maia a Ranger/Wizard now. I'm also wondering how I managed to put nearly 100 hours into the beta, play probably a dozen or more Rangers and yet never actually check if what I read about their leveling was correct. vv Clever Spambot posted:It seems like having several pools will be more beneficial in the hardest difficultys where fights are lasting a while e: What I mean is, if the abilities you want gain a lot from extra Power Levels, going single class can still be better. For the record, I found single and multiclass characters balanced well against each other in the beta but that's a range of 3 levels, which is not extremely meaningful. Wizard Styles fucked around with this message at 22:50 on May 5, 2018 |
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I spent the last ~hour statting out pure Fire Godlike Goldpact Paladin vs my horrible Goldpact Paladin/Fury Druid idea. I think I'm actually going through with Paladin/Fury. I don't think much in the game can beat turning into a golden thunderstorm that shoots out flaming thunderbolts. Once that runs out, I'll just pull out a firebrand. Maybe drop down a blight to start the fight. Most importantly, late game sacred immolation + relentless storm sounds sick. It'll end up being a somewhat awkward switch hitter build I think, but I really like it thematically. It also follows nicely, since my paladin was throwing out a lot of fire spells from items in the first game. Edit: Just realized "golden thunderstorm" is dangerously close to "golden showers". Hmm. Dairy Power fucked around with this message at 22:50 on May 5, 2018 |
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Here's a link to images of the ability trees and descriptions that somebody posted in the last thread, for those of us who like to obsess and aren't in the beta: https://alyeh.imgur.com/Dairy Power posted:Edit: Just realized "golden thunderstorm" is dangerously close to "golden showers". Hmm. Look out, here comes my (burning, electrified, soul-imbued) piss
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# ? May 5, 2018 22:52 |
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Dairy Power posted:Edit: Just realized "golden thunderstorm" is dangerously close to "golden showers". Hmm.
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# ? May 5, 2018 22:53 |
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how many people are going to reroll their characters? my death godlike rogue seems pretty lame compared to all the options in the sequel. Probably gonna do a cipher, or a chanter that only chants when he's loaded.
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# ? May 5, 2018 23:18 |
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This game will take 100+ hours to complete. 10 of which will be spent in character creation.
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# ? May 5, 2018 23:23 |
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Hulk Smash! posted:This game will take 100+ hours to complete. 10 of which will be spent in character creation. If you're a fake gamer sure true PoE 2 gamers have already been carefully planning their characters in these past months
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# ? May 5, 2018 23:32 |
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I'm looking forward to spending 10 hours starting and restarting characters before starting an actual playthrough. Think I'm gonna go with a cold wizard. Or a continuation of my Skaen Priest. Or a greatsword backstab rogue.
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So did Cohh ever recruit Pallegina? If she's inaccessible, I'm curious whether the same is true with Aloth if he joins the Leaden Key?
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# ? May 5, 2018 23:33 |
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GrandpaPants posted:So did Cohh ever recruit Pallegina? If she's inaccessible, I'm curious whether the same is true with Aloth if he joins the Leaden Key? Nope, and I don't think he found Teheku or Maia yet either
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# ? May 5, 2018 23:35 |
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frajaq posted:true PoE 2 gamers have already been carefully planning their characters in these past months I mean, yes, definitely carefully planned everything months ago and refined the build over the beta period instead of throwing poo poo at the wall for fun.
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# ? May 5, 2018 23:37 |
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frajaq posted:Nope, and I don't think he found Teheku or Maia yet either
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frajaq posted:Nope, and I don't think he found Teheku or Maia yet either I think it's kinda funny that the first companions you get in both games are Fighter, Wizard, Priest, but I guess it makes sense from a early balance perspective. One issue with theorycrafting this early is that we don't really know what endgame equipment looks like, since some of those can enable builds on their own. Like I'm mostly convinced Stormcaller is what made Rangers super good in POE1, since they can stack that poo poo with Scion of the Storm and being able to poo poo out 2 bouncing arrows means a lot of opportunity to proc Returning Storm, which also gets that sweet Scion bonus.
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# ? May 5, 2018 23:41 |
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frajaq posted:If you're a fake gamer sure There is no point in even thinking hard about it, no matter what I am gonna restart about a dozen times before I ever beat the game, assuming I ever manage to beat it. I think I made it to drowning the monks like a dozen times but only ever beat PoE1 once or twice. Also Ropekid the slider to kill visual effects on pause rules and now please add a toggle for the environmental effects and the VO.
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# ? May 5, 2018 23:43 |
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rope kid posted:Cohh has stalled on the critical path because he loves side content. He spent about 5 (?) hours in Queen's Berth today and left for Tikawara / Poko Kohara near the end of the stream. That's good, isn't it? Exploring cool side stuff and staying away from the main story seems ideal for a pre-release stream
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# ? May 5, 2018 23:44 |
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rope kid posted:Cohh has stalled on the critical path because he loves side content. He spent about 5 (?) hours in Queen's Berth today and left for Tikawara / Poko Kohara near the end of the stream. Is that a slight hint on how to make these companions be available? I'm gonna watch more of Cohh tomorrow anyway and people in the unofficial Discord can always tell me if Maia/Teheku shows up
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# ? May 5, 2018 23:46 |
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Stokes posted:Is there some sort of official PoE discord server? Also, I'm looking forward to spending 10 hours starting and restarting characters before starting an actual playthrough. there’s a fan one that a lot of the devs post in, the cultures mainly nsfw images of durance & memes
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# ? May 5, 2018 23:55 |
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is the companion AI improved?
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# ? May 6, 2018 00:03 |
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Doorknob Slobber posted:is the companion AI improved? You can program in if/than statements yourself now if you want.
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# ? May 6, 2018 00:04 |
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TexMexFoodbaby posted:how many people are going to reroll their characters? my death godlike rogue seems pretty lame compared to all the options in the sequel. Probably gonna do a cipher, or a chanter that only chants when he's loaded. I probably am. Went moon godlike chanter in poe1 and while I grew to like chanter eventually I definitely don't feel compelled to play it again. I think chanter will be purely a multi class option for me this time around. Still not sure what to play though...
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# ? May 6, 2018 00:06 |
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TexMexFoodbaby posted:how many people are going to reroll their characters? my death godlike rogue seems pretty lame compared to all the options in the sequel. Probably gonna do a cipher, or a chanter that only chants when he's loaded. I'm gonna stay the same. It's possible, but unlikely, that I pick up a multiclass. Definitely not changing race or background or anything like that.
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# ? May 6, 2018 00:13 |
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I've been eyeing dual wielding monk/rogue or monk/cipher, but that's because I'm anime trash.
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Mymla posted:I'm gonna stay the same. It's possible, but unlikely, that I pick up a multiclass. Definitely not changing race or background or anything like that. My dude's a Rogue Explorer from Deadfire so probably not going to change it up. I'll probably go Rogue/Fighter.
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# ? May 6, 2018 00:17 |
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I'm thinking just pure monk or some sort of skald or paladin multiclass.
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# ? May 6, 2018 00:20 |
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I was an Orlan Ranger in PoE1, probably going with Orlan WyldRhymer in 2 so I can combine my two favorite classes.
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Clever Spambot posted:You can program in if/than statements yourself now if you want. this is good
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# ? May 6, 2018 00:22 |
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Probably going to do my Eothan Fighter/Priest just-for-fun Roleplaying run through first and then go for a more serious Skald/Fighter build once PotD gets some tuning.
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# ? May 6, 2018 00:32 |
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I do wish you could pick to be a devotee of a god as a non-priest.
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# ? May 6, 2018 00:34 |
Hm. I wonder how a Fury/Chanter would do. poo poo out lightning whilst chanting lightning songs and stuff. Hm.
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# ? May 6, 2018 00:34 |
Hulk Smash! posted:This game will take 100+ hours to complete. 10 of which will be spent in character creation. Oh my dude Once you incorporate all the scripting your abilities will need in the AI It's so many more hours than that I have 169 hours in the Deadfire beta and like half of that is character creation
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# ? May 6, 2018 00:35 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I have 169 hours in the Deadfire beta what the gently caress
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# ? May 6, 2018 00:37 |
frajaq posted:what the gently caress I'm a fan of meticulous testing Also, sometimes I forget to exit out of steam
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# ? May 6, 2018 00:38 |
The first 20 were probably sitting in silent despair after seeing Cipher casting times.
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# ? May 6, 2018 00:48 |
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ProfessorCirno posted:monk/cipher, but that's because I'm anime trash. Excuse me, but Kung-fu movies have first dibs on monk/cipher. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r1_ZJ_-i14
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# ? May 6, 2018 00:51 |
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Hello new thread are ciphers still the best? Yes, yes they are.
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# ? May 6, 2018 01:13 |
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rope kid posted:Cohh has stalled on the critical path because he loves side content. He spent about 5 (?) hours in Queen's Berth today and left for Tikawara / Poko Kohara near the end of the stream. Oh, yeah, speaking of Cohh's stream. I noticed Eder said he joined the Night Market in Deadfire, but at the end of POE1 he became mayor of Dyrford in the slides. Did it read his save incorrectly, or does he always join the Night Market regardless?
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Chairchucker posted:Hello new thread are ciphers still the best? Cipher 8 and 9 abilities seem pretty underwhelming, and the big thing that put them at an advantage over other spellcasters (i.e., being non-Vancian) is also no longer an issue, and if anything, they may now be at a disadvantage compared to the other caster classes. On the other hand, you can dual wield blunderbusses now.
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