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gently caress it WMOTYC: Samoa Joe vs Roman Reigns, WWE Backlash 5/6/18
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KungFu Grip posted:WMOTYC: Samoa Joe vs. Roman Reigns from Backlash. 3rd
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May 7, 2018 04:33
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WMOTYC: Roman Reigns vs. Samoa Joe, WWE Backlash 5/6/18 I'll nominate it. Nothing but restholds and it was a match that hurt both participants more than not having a match at all. e: Ha, beaten. Consider this an Nth then 
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May 7, 2018 04:33
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 Reigns is gonna get a third WMOTYC for a PPV main event in a row. I'm glad I was sleeping and missed the entire show
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May 7, 2018 04:35
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HM: Rollins/Miz WMOTYC: Nia/Alexa WMOTYC: Charlotte/Carmella WMOTYC: Roman/Joe I can't remember the last time a show fell off the cliff that badly after a hot opener. Total garbage.
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May 7, 2018 04:36
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KungFu Grip posted:WMOTYC: Samoa Joe vs. Roman Reigns from Backlash. Agreed. Holy poo poo that tone deaf booking.
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May 7, 2018 04:36
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Benne posted:HM: Rollins/Miz I could list off a bunch of WCW PPVs but WCW fans were at least smart enough to stop coming when the company kept insulting them.
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May 7, 2018 04:42
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Benne posted:HM: Rollins/Miz Agreed
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May 7, 2018 04:45
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MassRafTer posted:I could list off a bunch of WCW PPVs but WCW fans were at least smart enough to stop coming when the company kept insulting them. Deep roster of talent but bad booking? The only thing keeping them from being WCW is the fact they are actually making money not losing money
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May 7, 2018 04:55
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Deep roster of talent but bad booking? The only thing keeping them from being WCW is the fact they are actually making money not losing money WCW made more money than any company in wrestling history before they ran their fanbase off! It's literally impossible for WWE to go out of business but hey maybe they can surprise us.
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May 7, 2018 04:56
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As much as that sucked we aren't on the same continent of wcw at its worst
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May 7, 2018 04:57
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MassRafTer posted:WCW made more money than any company in wrestling history before they ran their fanbase off! They could lose a lot of TV money which might not kill them but would pretty much cripple them. Not gonna happen on the next contract but man if they go to say Fox with this kind of TV that might be the last big contract.
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May 7, 2018 05:04
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extradite THIS! posted:
Not just in a row, but within a 30 day period on top of that.
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May 7, 2018 05:12
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OldTennisCourt posted:As much as that sucked we aren't on the same continent of wcw at its worst Just remember that it wasn't when WCW was at their worst that they started running off fans. The booking of this show sounded more like Superbrawl 99 or Uncensored 99 than NBR or Halloween Havoc 2000. Shows that could have been good and somewhat satisfying but booked in completely insulting ways. Both may have received 3 WMOTYCs too!
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May 7, 2018 05:15
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MassRafTer posted:Just remember that it wasn't when WCW was at their worst that they started running off fans. The booking of this show sounded more like Superbrawl 99 or Uncensored 99 than NBR or Halloween Havoc 2000. Shows that could have been good and somewhat satisfying but booked in completely insulting ways. I feel like you've been on this WWE IS FOLLOWING THE WCW PROPHECY for a long while now and wwe is still coasting along fine and making money and has a huge network subscriber base
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May 7, 2018 05:21
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Yep, just updated the OP and Backlash managed to get three WMOTYC nominations put in 
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May 7, 2018 05:25
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OldTennisCourt posted:I feel like you've been on this WWE IS FOLLOWING THE WCW PROPHECY for a long while now and wwe is still coasting along fine and making money and has a huge network subscriber base I don't think I've ever said anything like this. The most I've ever critiqued their business plan is that they'd be making way more money if they stuck to PPV and used the Network as a supplemental thing. In fact I've been one of the staunchest defenders of the Reigns push and the positive business indicators behind it. I also said it was literally impossible for them to go out of business on this same page. What I am doing is making fun of WWE's fans who come to these shows to get poo poo on by saying WCW fans were smarter.
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May 7, 2018 05:26
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Nth MOTYC For Okada-Tana and HM for Ospreay-Kushida
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May 7, 2018 05:34
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Jerusalem posted:Yep, just updated the OP and Backlash managed to get three WMOTYC nominations put in You missed the HM noms for ospreay/kushida
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May 7, 2018 05:35
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Baron Corbyn posted:You missed the HM noms for ospreay/kushida Added it in now. Was sure I had already done that but maybe I overwrote it or forgot to save the edit? Anyway, it's there now.
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May 7, 2018 05:37
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Have we ever had a company put a show with 2 5 Stars matches put on a show a month later with like 3 1 star or dud matches? Not just normal TV but an actual big show?
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May 7, 2018 05:37
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Have we ever had a company put a show with 2 5 Stars matches put on a show a month later with like 3 1 star or dud matches? Not just normal TV but an actual big show? NJPW Destruction in Fukushima with the dire Elgin/Suzuki match was a month after the G1 finals.
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May 7, 2018 05:49
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Depending on how you want to count "show", the three night sprint of the end of the G1 27 produced a five star, a six star, and a five and 3/4ths star match for each night's main event, and then at Fukushima a month later they literally had three matches below one star and the highest rating was three and a quarter. That first Destruction show last year was a loving mess of a thing.
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May 7, 2018 05:50
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WM X didn't have two ***** matches, and KOTR 94 wasn't the next month but it was the next show and it sure was bad.
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OldTennisCourt posted:As much as that sucked we aren't on the same continent of wcw at its worst
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May 7, 2018 05:54
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I block that destruction show out of my mind cause it was so bad lol
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May 7, 2018 05:56
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The Cameo posted:Depending on how you want to count "show", the three night sprint of the end of the G1 27 produced a five star, a six star, and a five and 3/4ths star match for each night's main event, and then at Fukushima a month later they literally had three matches below one star and the highest rating was three and a quarter. That first Destruction show last year was a loving mess of a thing. Plus Dave probably won’t actually go that low on Backlash.
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May 7, 2018 06:10
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Aphrodite posted:Plus Dave probably won’t actually go that low on Backlash. Here's the last line of his play by play quote:We'll be talking about this later tonight. And during awards season.
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May 7, 2018 06:12
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Yeah then he’ll probably give it a bunch of 2s. He’s easy on WWE. Like he described the Nia/Alexa match “unlike the first match which wasn’t good this had no heat”, but he still gave that a 2 3/4. Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 06:26 on May 7, 2018 |
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May 7, 2018 06:22
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Have we actually hit a point where somebody is claiming Dave has a pro-WWE bias now?
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May 7, 2018 06:49
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Jerusalem posted:Have we actually hit a point where somebody is claiming Dave has a pro-WWE bias now? You're way late on that. Dave's had a pro-WWE bias ever since he had the gall to claim Roman has ever had a good singles match.
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May 7, 2018 06:52
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The scale for WWE is totally different. It has to be really, truly unwatchable to get below 2. It means a 2 is still really bad, but don’t expect to see a bunch of 1s or anything.
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May 7, 2018 06:52
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One event ago, at the Greatest Rumble, Dave gave Matt+Bray vs Bar 2 Jeff/Jinder .5 Bludgeon Bros/Usos 2 Taker/Rusev 2 Brock/Reigns 1 Half the card didn't get above a 2
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May 7, 2018 07:11
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2 is like the baseline for a bad WWE match. Below that, it means it was either an uninteresting squash or a botchy mess or something notably bad. Although now that I've seen more comments from last night this one might actually break him and just get duds all over.
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May 7, 2018 14:19
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Hasnt Dave has said multiple times he grades WWE on a curve because the quality is so terrible?
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May 7, 2018 17:34
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Jenkem Delivery posted:Hasnt Dave has said multiple times he grades WWE on a curve because the quality is so terrible? No.
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May 7, 2018 17:44
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Jenkem Delivery posted:Hasnt Dave has said multiple times he grades WWE on a curve because the quality is so terrible? Hahaha what
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May 7, 2018 18:19
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there was absolutely an observer radio within the last idk 8 months where dave talked around the fact that a middle-of-the-road new japan match would be like a 4 star match if it was in the wwe
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May 7, 2018 19:57
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Yeah, and he's said it on Twitter too. He hasn't said "it's because WWE sucks" obviously but he definitely has lower standards for them.
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I've seen the Different Standards thing too but I don't remember his full rationale
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