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The fact that they haven't drafted a backup QB in years remains one of the more baffling parts of the Dolphins in a long history of baffling decisions
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tarbrush posted:The fact that they haven't drafted a backup QB in years remains one of the more baffling parts of the Dolphins in a long history of baffling decisions Hey, we drafted a QB turned wide receiver turned QB, and that should count, right? And Doughty, who we never ever used. So, there you go.
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May 7, 2018 16:12
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torgeaux posted:Hey, we drafted a QB turned wide receiver turned QB, and that should count, right? And Doughty, who we never ever used. So, there you go. Doughty didn’t have an nfl arm. He was garbage in every preseason game.
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May 8, 2018 14:08
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Amy Pole Her posted:Doughty didn’t have an nfl arm. He was garbage in every preseason game. He never looked good, but I'm not sure he was a step down from Fales. He was never going to be more than a backup, but with our passing game being mostly screens, i was hoping he was smart enough to be a pennington. Edit: and I always wonder why we keep him on the practice squad, develop his knowledge of our system, but dont bring him up to cover second string.
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May 8, 2018 14:16
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That’s a great question. Unsure why you’d put a guy with such a low ceiling there. I heard that we’re still looking to add some pieces after June 1st cuts, mainly seeing if any good QB projects are available (why i think Bridgewater 2 Miami is a thing. High ceiling with a basement that’s merely... he never plays again!) But more interestingly, i heard we’re looking to add another press CB. Not sure who that’s damning, because I’m a huge fan of our young CBs. Well, Howard, Tank, and McCann. Lippett and his Achilles... that’s tough. A guy like Grimes who is a stud originally can get through it but a guy progressing slowly with big flashes? That’s a tall order
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May 8, 2018 15:38
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Amy Pole Her posted:That’s a great question. Unsure why you’d put a guy with such a low ceiling there. Bridgewater is a great candidate. McCann holds too much, but Tank and Howard are solid. Not sure about depth with Lippett though. He's one of my favorites, but a bit too boom or bust to be consistent even before he got hurt.
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May 8, 2018 15:53
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McCann is universally lauded as our best slot CB and is pretty well liked by our coaching staff. Curious if that lip service from last year has already changed. I very much like him. Frankly i think Howard needs to get his penalties under control before i put him in that upper tier. His playmaking skills are too great to ignore. So you think they ditch Mccann eh? Should be interesting! I’m hardly a CB expert so I won’t argue. Lippett likely has the starting job now, assuming health, but if i don’t see Tankersley pushing him for time *hard* by end of camp then i don’t know WTF to believe, because everyone (dolphins draft guys, mike Mayo i) seemed to go nuts that we got him in the 3rd
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May 8, 2018 16:43
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Amy Pole Her posted:McCann is universally lauded as our best slot CB and is pretty well liked by our coaching staff. Curious if that lip service from last year has already changed. McCain is really good...but he gets his hands on receivers too much after 5 yards. But, looking at his penalty stats, that was way down in 2017 versus 16.
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May 8, 2018 17:51
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Hey, we just traded a 7th for a passable DT from the Lions This dude. Yay I guess.
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That was last Friday! Boooooo BOOOO But real reaction - he was miscast in Tampa, Detroit he performed okay. Detroit’s making a scheme change (Lions goons please confirm) and his old Dline coach is on our staff now, so we should know him better than most. I think it’s a pretty good trade
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May 8, 2018 19:24
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Any 7th round pick trade for a known quantity is a good trade.
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May 8, 2018 19:39
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Really? I blame the bank holiday weekend
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May 8, 2018 19:40
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torgeaux posted:Any 7th round pick trade for a known quantity is a good trade. That’s how i feel. Plus it’s conditional - he has to be on our roster day 1.
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May 8, 2018 20:40
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Interesting article today by Armando who is pretty spot on usually. 1) Gase didn’t want Osweiller. That decision was made by Tbaum 2) Gase really likes David Fales.
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May 11, 2018 15:34
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It matters not. We'll go 8-8 next year, and no one will be sure if it's improvement or statistical noise. Except for us. We'll know that it's destiny.
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May 11, 2018 16:04
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tarbrush posted:It matters not. We'll go 8-8 next year, and no one will be sure if it's improvement or statistical noise. This is my fear. Better than last year, so people will say they did a good job on personnel, and we're improving now that Tannehill is back. Not good enough to be a playoff team. Too good for a strong draft pick. I'm hoping the D is enough better to keep us in close games, but we don't have a power back that is killer in the 4th quarter anymore, so I'm not sure that will be enough for us to win any more games.
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I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised by our new TE and HB. Gesicki can’t block but he’s going to be a stud in the receiving game
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Just for the record Dolphins over/under on wins is 6 which seems like the floor assuming Tannehill plays. I would never suggest betting on the Phins but seems like a push at worst.
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I've gotta see how/if Gase has adjusted his play calling, or, fingers crossed, he gives those duties to the o coordinator. If he keeps his old playbook, 6 is about right.
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May 13, 2018 23:48
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Well, the brain trust's moves last year continue to bite. https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/dolphins-leonte-carroo-likely-on-roster-bubble/ Here are two stories that should be read, headlines at least, as related stories. Gase is Finally Putting His Stamp on the Dolphins Roster https://dolphinswire.usatoday.com/2...il-most-popular The Dolphins Have Declined the Most This Offseason https://dolphinswire.usatoday.com/2018/05/15/3-espn-nfl-insider-believe-the-dolphins-have-declined-the-most-this-offseason/ torgeaux fucked around with this message at 01:15 on May 16, 2018 |
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That article about our losses is awful. Josh Sutton is the best guard we’ve had since we had Incognito. Michael Thomas is gone, yes it’s true... but we drafted Minkah Fitzpatrick to replace him. And oh yeah we no longer have the worst QB in the league throwing passes Amy Pole Her fucked around with this message at 14:52 on May 16, 2018 |
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May 16, 2018 14:43
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torgeaux posted:Well, the brain trust's moves last year continue to bite. It was hard not to think of the Chip Kelly-era Eagles when watching the Dolphins chase “culture” while moving on from talented players such as Jay Ajayi, Suh, Pouncey, Landry and Michael Thomas Lol
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May 16, 2018 14:45
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Yeah, I mostly ignored the stories, but thought the juxtaposition of the headlines was funny. The Carroo story hits hard on our personnel draft management though. I was so pissed when it happened, then talked myself into believing Carroo could be something, then back to reality.
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May 16, 2018 15:24
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Man all the Jets and Rutgers fans were convinced Carroo was going to be great.
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May 16, 2018 15:26
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I just like Suh, Landry, and Michael Thomas being in the same list. The only two things I remember about Carroo is how much they gave up to draft him, and one TD from like 2016.
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May 16, 2018 15:52
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I mean, even if you hate what the Dolphins have done, how have they declined this year more then the Seahawks or Bills? Like, even if you love Josh Allen, you can't expect him to be a good QB this season, and their offensive line disintegrated. And the Seahawks may be a better team but their losses were comical.
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May 16, 2018 15:55
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Kalli posted:I mean, even if you hate what the Dolphins have done, how have they declined this year more then the Seahawks or Bills? Mostly because we were terrible last year, and traded or cut our best players. Teams that go to the playoffs are expected to maybe get a bit worse.
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May 16, 2018 16:57
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I hated the Caroo pick from the start, they gave up so many good picks for no reason.
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It’s easily a huge black mark on an otherwise pretty good few years of drafting. But... It really can’t be understated how awful Cutler was. So that’s a huge upgrade. I’m not sure how much culture BS I buy into but whatever. Guess we will see
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Kalli posted:I mean, even if you hate what the Dolphins have done, how have they declined this year more then the Seahawks or Bills? With the Bills you can make an argument their offense was already pretty poopy (3 points in the playoffs) and the defense improved.
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pasaluki posted:With the Bills you can make an argument their offense was already pretty poopy (3 points in the playoffs) and the defense improved. The offense last year at the very least didn't turn the ball over so the defense rarely had to go out with bad field position. With a rookie QB that won't be the case. Even if the defense has improved they'll have a worse year statistically most likely.
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MalarkeyToboggan posted:The offense last year at the very least didn't turn the ball over so the defense rarely had to go out with bad field position. With a rookie QB that won't be the case. Even if the defense has improved they'll have a worse year statistically most likely. Maybe. But I dont see the Bills as the most declined team. I think the Dolphins lost way more overall talent.
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May 18, 2018 07:02
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pasaluki posted:Maybe. Yeah, but look how much better the "culture" is!
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May 18, 2018 17:20
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pasaluki posted:Maybe. Suh was a huge loss but i just don’t think Landry’s statistics are going to be that tough to replace. But i mean those are the blanket type statements an optimist makes right
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Seems pretty clear that the Bills will be Not A Good (which is not the same as A Bad) this year, but they look to be in better shape on contracts. One thing that has constantly haunted the Bills is the presence of really bad contracts on a handful of mediocre veterans, preventing them from having enough cap space to field a strong team overall. Now the main severely overpaid player is Charles Clay at $9 million (WHAT WERE THEY THINKING  ), which is survivable, and they have the third most cap space for 2019 and second most for 2020. In contrast, the Dolphins have the 6th-lowest amount of cap space in 2019...
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Diva Cupcake posted:Man all the Jets and Rutgers fans were convinced Carroo was going to be great. He was an absolute difference maker at RU with just embarrassing talent around him. There is more that story than we know.
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Ditch posted:Now the main severely overpaid player is Charles Clay at $9 million (WHAT WERE THEY THINKING Because the Bills basically wanted to stick it to the Fins and also because the Bills know gently caress all about good TEs. Overpaying for Clay is a classic passive agressive short sighted and petty AFC East move. Rex Ryan once sent out 5 players who were former Dolphins players as captains simply because they were playing against them. torgeaux posted:Yeah, but look how much better the "culture" is! This is what's interesting. I think when you look at what Chip Kelly did, I can in some sense see the logic of his end goal. He wanted players who he could motivate. He had an authoritarian style of coaching. The problem with the way Chip Kelly went about doing that was he had no subtlety and thought he could do it basically all at once without generating alot of enmity. To make matters worse the specific players he targeted to jettison were eyebrow raising to say the least. The way Adam Gase is radically making moves is reminiscent to me of Chip Kelly. I dont think what he trying to accomplish is necessarily wrong. Heres why: Motivation has been an issue with the Dolphins. I remember there was this gif of Joe Philbin trying to call the Dolphins back to the sideline and to hustle, and the Dolphins players are just tuning the coach completely out and slowly walking back. It actually made me feel bad for the coach because you could tell he had just no respect from his players. But the way Gase is doing this, I feel is going to backfire.
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