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Virtual Captain
Feb 20, 2017

Archive Priest of the Stimperial Order

Star Citizen Good, in all things forevermore. Amen.
:pray:

TheAgent posted:

jesus christ this ch11rch guy is absolutely loving nailing sqautty potty advertising on SC goddamn

For anyone who missed it. The guy jumps in twitch chat and within 3 mins has the streamer playing his sqautty potty ad and doing a !raffle

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Apr 28, 2018

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Beet Wagon posted:

I'm disappointed he didn't look further into that "circle of life" infographic.

Hi BeetWagon.

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

intardnation
Feb 18, 2016

I'm going to space!

:gary: :yarg:

doesnt want to rock the boat because of freebies.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





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Hi BeetWagon.

Hello friend

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

FrostPunk has like ten hours of gameplay at the moment.

So he's going to need to find something else soon.


Mr.PayDay posted:

easily accessible information on staffing

I ignored the complete loving misuse of 'exponentially' because these people are really dim, but this twitches my forensic boner. Apart from the yearly accounts requiring staffing levels and that fun California law that requires layoffs to be telegraphed, where are the current staffing levels published?

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard


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Apr 28, 2018

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Beet Wagon posted:

Hello friend

So yeah, we've regressed into "It's ok if they pull anti-consumer crap, the game will be worth it".


trucutru posted:

Let's be real here, both the ones that left and the ones that continue are still whacking off to Cream the rabbit.

A series of bad games can't cure that.


Sample_text posted:



On another note, I think we'll start seeing the crazies stand out a lot more as more and more of the "average joe " backers either leave or refund. You can see something similar with I dunno.... let's go with Sonic the Hedgehog. Once his games started getting worse and worse, most of the community died off and the only people left invested were the die-hard fans. The ones who were sane and well-integrated people went off and did their own thing, with the most notable being Sonic-Mania . The others are the ones who clog up Deviant Art with creepy (technically underage) fetish porn.

The "Sonic Mania" star citizen fans will probably be the ones who'll bring us : "Star Citizen : A Starfield total conversion mod".
The others.... well you can see them right now.

Also, in the interest of fair representation, I'm sure not all these people are crazies. Montoya is a youtube shill trying desperately to drum up controversy for his channel. So is that GamerMax dude . Bored is a straight up CIG shill who will never read off-script even to save his life.

It's ok if the next Sonic game gouges you for lootbox money, but only IF I get to whack off to Cream the Rabbit.
Everything will always be good for Star Citizen.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

I'm the adult who provides money in exchange for a good, doesn't receive that good because the recipient of that money constantly changes the good because they're getting more money, and thinks that it's acceptable behavior and not at all enabling a scam. That's definitely something adults do. They're called suckers, but they're typically adults.

Mr.PayDay
Jan 2, 2004
life is short - play hard

Taintrunner posted:

THE THING will be being able to spawn your space fighter from inside your clanmate’s space carrier and fly it out into battle which I feel like is a very basic thing that should have been demo’d by now for the sort of game they claim to be making

Commando u/StarLoop explains:

„Another simpleton post. In case you haven't noticed, everything about this game is getting a lot more complex.

Picking your ship is a major gameplay decision. You'll need to research the ships you purchase carefully. That's a huge part of the game.

The same week people were complaining about simplifying the pledge system CIG released details hinting of the complexities of the fuel system in even basic ships.

Star Citizen won't be a simple game, just get used to that. Picking your ship or insurance is the start of this complex game.

Do your research. Complaining again and again about something being complex is just setting you back compared to savvy players.

Start learning, stop complaining.“

monkeytek
Jun 8, 2010

It wasn't an ELE that wiped out the backer funds. It was Tristan Timothy Taylor.

Ok, I know we are really down on the chances of SC ever being more than a tech demo, but PLEASE for the love of god if it does becomes a reality we need a guild designed for the sole purpose of driving B'tak insane. I would actually play this poo poo heel of a game as a shipless flunky with a pristine record (so he is assured I am trustworth per his idea of safe gameplay) to simply get on his ship to space his rear end and fly away with his goodies.

Mangoose
Dec 11, 2007

Come out with your pants down!

monkeytek posted:

Ok, I know we are really down on the chances of SC ever being more than a tech demo, but PLEASE for the love of god if it does becomes a reality we need a guild designed for the sole purpose of driving B'tak insane. I would actually play this poo poo heel of a game as a shipless flunky with a pristine record (so he is assured I am trustworth per his idea of safe gameplay) to simply get on his ship to space his rear end and fly away with his goodies.

I'd take a job as a janitor on his carrier and do a really poor job of cleaning his space toilets

SPERMCUBE.ORG
Nov 3, 2011

Space commies are th' biggest threat t' red-blooded American Freedom we got in th' future. So me and my boys got to talking over a few hot dogs the other day and this is what we came up with...
What was procedurally generated first, the chicken or the egg?

Agony Aunt
Apr 17, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
You know what I would like to see?

No? Well, gently caress you, i'll tell you anyway.

A poll!

A poll of SC backers asking them what they want to do when SC is finally realeased, how they want to fly.

A) In my own ship by myself
B) As captain with other players as my crew
C) As a crew member on someone else's ship

I'm going out on a limb here, but i suspect the results would be something like this:

A) 80%
B) 19.9%
C) 0.1%

This of course might cause a problem for those wanting to command peons.

Perhaps goons could make up the shortfall.

Exinos
Mar 1, 2009

OSHA approved squiq

Mangoose posted:

I'd take a job as a janitor on his carrier and do a really poor job of cleaning his space toilets

You monster.

stingtwo
Nov 16, 2012
THE THING will be the being able to brand a server instance with your own name for $100/month sometime in the future, pay now to reserve a slot when they introduce it*


*ETA is never

Mr.PayDay
Jan 2, 2004
life is short - play hard

monkeytek posted:

Ok, I know we are really down on the chances of SC ever being more than a tech demo, but PLEASE for the love of god if it does becomes a reality we need a guild designed for the sole purpose of driving B'tak insane. I would actually play this poo poo heel of a game as a shipless flunky with a pristine record (so he is assured I am trustworth per his idea of safe gameplay) to simply get on his ship to space his rear end and fly away with his goodies.

IIRC we Goons know we will win anyway: The whole development process is a great entertaining desaster.
If this never releases, we will keep laughing and enjoying this threads.

If there ever releases sth like a game with 20% of what was promised in 2022 and is a mediocre version of ED and Eve , a Goonfleet will drive the SC Whiteknight nuts and we will exploit and break ingame stuff and just make the ubernerds cry and calling names.
Third option, the „game“ will be released and be an unstable“how did this get out of beta“ POS trainwreck in the year 2022 that is boring and laggy (like today) and the ratings and critics rip this assunder and Chris and Sandi are MIA with backers Millions and the SC reddit is upset why they funded this shitshow 10 years , and we can make fun of them all.

Either way, no matter how this fiasco continues Goons will win with the last laugh, and we gamers as a whole were witnesses how Chris Robbers turned the funding mechanism and hype into a scam and a product that other studios could have developed with 10 % of the costs and less poo poo in 1/4 of the time.

Mr.PayDay fucked around with this message at 18:30 on May 7, 2018

boviscopophobic
Feb 5, 2016

Agony Aunt posted:

You know what I would like to see?

No? Well, gently caress you, i'll tell you anyway.

A poll!

A poll of SC backers asking them what they want to do when SC is finally realeased, how they want to fly.

A) In my own ship by myself
B) As captain with other players as my crew
C) As a crew member on someone else's ship

I'm going out on a limb here, but i suspect the results would be something like this:

A) 80%
B) 19.9%
C) 0.1%

This of course might cause a problem for those wanting to command peons.

Perhaps goons could make up the shortfall.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1DQTV8didlPDYYsVqf2_YI39KxbGIR7yw8iMjfOSqo-c/viewanalytics

Janitors and drink mixers are going to be the highest-paid citizens in the 'Verse because nobody wants to play as them.

Mr.PayDay
Jan 2, 2004
life is short - play hard

Agony Aunt posted:

You know what I would like to see?

No? Well, gently caress you, i'll tell you anyway.

A poll!

A poll of SC backers asking them what they want to do when SC is finally realeased, how they want to fly.

A) In my own ship by myself
B) As captain with other players as my crew
C) As a crew member on someone else's ship

I'm going out on a limb here, but i suspect the results would be something like this:

A) 80%
B) 19.9%
C) 0.1%

This of course might cause a problem for those wanting to command peons.

Perhaps goons could make up the shortfall.

The griefing options of C.) will be hilarious, I am sure we will troll them exceptionally

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

I'm the adult who provides money in exchange for a good, doesn't receive that good because the recipient of that money constantly changes the good because they're getting more money, and thinks that it's acceptable behavior and not at all enabling a scam. That's definitely something adults do. They're called suckers, but they're typically adults.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ&t=34s

"Maaaan, you think he's a charity case?! He's an ADUUUULT!!"

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Quavers posted:

:siren: CitizenCon tickets selling fast! :siren:



Of the 600 Premium tickets, ALL have sold! :toot:

Of the 1800 Standard tickets, 537 have sold! :negative:

I am behind, but I wouldn't be surprised if CIG gave a lot of those premium ones away to some of their high dollar people. Maybe half of not more. Help the "investment" seem like their is some kind of tangible returns involved with it.

I guess I just find it difficult to believe people will spend that sort of money on something they are clearly starting to doubt, given the fact they are begging for even 200 retweets of stuff not a couple weeks ago or so.

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

TheLastRoboKy posted:

The people who charge the hill are just as crazy. TheAgent handled the stupidity of it all pretty well and should be the model for whenever someone gets mad about someone getting more attention than them.

TheAgent is a true gentleman. :hfive:

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

Agony Aunt posted:

You know what I would like to see?

No? Well, gently caress you, i'll tell you anyway.

A poll!

A poll of SC backers asking them what they want to do when SC is finally realeased, how they want to fly.

A) In my own ship by myself
B) As captain with other players as my crew
C) As a crew member on someone else's ship

I'm going out on a limb here, but i suspect the results would be something like this:

A) 80%
B) 19.9%
C) 0.1%

This of course might cause a problem for those wanting to command peons.

Perhaps goons could make up the shortfall.

Nah they all want to be the captain of [insert spaceship from sci-fi movie] with a crew full of plebs they can boss around but n one wants to be the plebs.

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

The Saddest Robot posted:

How long before Chris Roberts sees the Beyond Good or Evil 2 video and announces that Star Citizen will have jetpacks and they are mocapping martial artists? And not just one form of martial arts but many!

"Martial artists"???

Have you gone crazy? Do you think The Chris Roberts is going to just work with any random martial artists off the street?

No.

I'm afraid it's time to start crowdfunding for Jackie Chan to be in the game. For 13 seconds in that one scene in the cafeteria. And it will cost millions.

Enlist now!

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

I'm the adult who provides money in exchange for a good, doesn't receive that good because the recipient of that money constantly changes the good because they're getting more money, and thinks that it's acceptable behavior and not at all enabling a scam. That's definitely something adults do. They're called suckers, but they're typically adults.

It isn't that people fall for scams, it's that they continue to fall for scams, and fail to understand why justifying falling for a scam is part of the wider problem.

While it's fairly innocuous to hand over cash to someone that seems to constantly redefine the transaction because of various reasons, none of which are _transparent_, it leads to a fairly pernicious problem of disconnecting cause and effect; We are not _purchasing_, we are merely _contributing_ in the hope of _helping_. The entire process then becomes one of managing expectations, but they're working from a basis of presumed knowledge.

For example, the 'factual' basis of the number of people working on the game, which appears to be fluid outside of the mandated filings required by EU law and might cover a number of subcontractors.

I'm kinda intrigued by the whole faith-based portion of this because it is getting into areas of faith; there's a 'common knowledge' that's more informed by desire rather than specifics, and I'm amused as all hell by the increasing appeals to the authority of Chris; Of course this isn't a scam, look at all the pictures. Chris wouldn't be working this hard without an endpoint.

It's not like he's exceeded his reach before.

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Mangoose posted:

I'd take a job as a janitor on his carrier and do a really poor job of cleaning his space toilets

I'm claiming squatters rights for C-deck.

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

I hope, hope hope this guy some day gets to reread this post. And realize he's talking those huge numbers about dumbass stuff in a video game.

It will be even more priceless if he can reread it after The Fall happens and the Smart Prophecy comes true (in two weeks).

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

big nipples big life posted:

Nah they all want to be the captain of [insert spaceship from sci-fi movie] with a crew full of plebs they can boss around but n one wants to be the plebs.

Even more basically, they're after the veto power offered by 'I'm taking my [x] home and you can't play'.

Quite literally.

Edit: The very real dangers of haribo gummi bears - https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R1UZHYS78G9BJQ/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B000EVOSE4

VictorianQueerLit
Aug 25, 2017
I really don't get why this particular sale was the line for so many whales. They've been through hundreds of these scummy sales at this point.

Seriously they made it through the official yearly holiday stream being an hour long home shopping network ship sale and the land sales but the straw that broke the camels back is a non-existent tank bundled with the non-existent six hundred dollar autism chariot?

ManBearCat
Mar 22, 2018

VictorianQueerLit posted:

I really don't get why this particular sale was the line for so many whales. They've been through hundreds of these scummy sales at this point.

Seriously they made it through the official yearly holiday stream being an hour long home shopping network ship sale and the land sales but the straw that broke the camels back is a non-existent tank bundled with the non-existent six hundred dollar autism chariot?

Most of the die hard backers have been on the boat for 2-6 years during which they deluded themselves into a superiority complex, which is threatened by the new paradigm (new money is more "valuable" than old money). Also, this sale is aimed at cultist new blood but SC has had no significant new blood in the cultist group for one year, possibly two so there are fewer and fewer voices that speak in CIG's defence or down vote/report infidels.

Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development

The Titanic posted:

I am behind, but I wouldn't be surprised if CIG gave a lot of those premium ones away to some of their high dollar people. Maybe half of not more. Help the "investment" seem like their is some kind of tangible returns involved with it.

I guess I just find it difficult to believe people will spend that sort of money on something they are clearly starting to doubt, given the fact they are begging for even 200 retweets of stuff not a couple weeks ago or so.





:ohdear:

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



VictorianQueerLit posted:

I really don't get why this particular sale was the line for so many whales. They've been through hundreds of these scummy sales at this point.

Seriously they made it through the official yearly holiday stream being an hour long home shopping network ship sale and the land sales but the straw that broke the camels back is a non-existent tank bundled with the non-existent six hundred dollar autism chariot?

They want the newest, biggest, and best of whatever comes out. In this case, that means LTI is attached to whatever hull they are considering buying.

They have realized that they are on equal footing with someone who just joined and is willing to spend the fresh cash. If they want LTI, their 'status' confers no privilege.

That's what makes them mad.

I thought for a bit that CIG was boosting store credit prices in attempt to get that liability off their books. However, I have come to the belief that they don't carry it on the books in the same manner that airlines carry frequent flier miles. If they did, they could just charge double or triple the cash price if you are using store credit to purchase a Warbond edition ship without using fresh cash. But they didn't, therefore the conclusion can only be that - ROBERT NEED MORE GOLD.

Shadowlyger
Nov 5, 2009

ElvUI super fan at your service!

Ask me any and all questions about UI customization via PM

Agony Aunt posted:

Perhaps goons could make up the shortfall.

That's gonna be the long and short of it: Nobody will want to help staff people's sperg chariots except goons, and goons will only do so in order to grief the poo poo out of people by turning their shields off.

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFfE2HrDJx0

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen


VictorianQueerLit posted:

I really don't get why this particular sale was the line for so many whales. They've been through hundreds of these scummy sales at this point.

Seriously they made it through the official yearly holiday stream being an hour long home shopping network ship sale and the land sales but the straw that broke the camels back is a non-existent tank bundled with the non-existent six hundred dollar autism chariot?

LTI has always been the riot-maker. Any time they gently caress with LTI there is a revolt, because the specter of losing the six-hundred dollar ship that you haven't even got to sit in is too much for the most hardened fan to swallow. It reminds them that CIG has absolutely no idea what they're doing with regards to value or time-for-money, that they're just kind of making it up as they go along, and that any guarantee made today could go out the window tomorrow if a more convenient source of income comes along.

In short it is one of the only ways that CIG manages to actually drill through to these morons that they don't think of the long time backers as particularly valuable customers. Since the entire foundation of self-esteem for a lot of these people is now "Believed in Chrim Rombo when nobody else would, GOONS" the removal of the scales from their eyes tends to be particularly painful. This is also why, given any opportunity at all, they will quickly snap back into defender mode. They really really really don't want to think about how embarrassing it would be for them if CIG isn't just incompetent, but actively malicious. There's a level of shame in the cognitive dissonance there that you typically only see with conservative disasters.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Beet Wagon posted:

Reminder that the same people who use the term "soy boy" are also probably trying to chug glasses full of onion juice to increase their testosterone at home



I only drink fresh bull semen to increase my testosterone. But not direct from the source as that would be gay, and I am mostly not that.

Slow_Moe
Feb 18, 2013

Sarsapariller posted:

LTI has always been the riot-maker. Any time they gently caress with LTI there is a revolt, because the specter of losing the six-hundred dollar ship that you haven't even got to sit in is too much for the most hardened fan to swallow. It reminds them that CIG has absolutely no idea what they're doing with regards to value or time-for-money, that they're just kind of making it up as they go along, and that any guarantee made today could go out the window tomorrow if a more convenient source of income comes along.

In short it is one of the only ways that CIG manages to actually drill through to these morons that they don't think of the long time backers as particularly valuable customers. Since the entire foundation of self-esteem for a lot of these people is now "Believed in Chrim Rombo when nobody else would, GOONS" the removal of the scales from their eyes tends to be particularly painful. This is also why, given any opportunity at all, they will quickly snap back into defender mode. They really really really don't want to think about how embarrassing it would be for them if CIG isn't just incompetent, but actively malicious. There's a level of shame in the cognitive dissonance there that you typically only see with conservative disasters.

They might not know what they're doing for time-for-money, but they do at least know how to get the money. The real money that is. They still have no idea of how much in game money you will be able to earn. Because why implement that when you can just sell jpegs to thirsty whales?

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

TheAgent posted:

this world has completely broken my ability to tell satire/trolling from actual posts anymore

This is kind of similar to the Library of Babel stuff that was posted here before. Even if someone is writing satire/trolling, there are multiple people who believe that poo poo to the letter.

monkeytek
Jun 8, 2010

It wasn't an ELE that wiped out the backer funds. It was Tristan Timothy Taylor.

Colostomy Bag posted:

It never ceases to amaze me how CIG fucks up the most at the end of the week. Release a lovely patch Friday night? Check. Dump another scam off heading into the weekend? Check.

Geez, it is almost like you can draw some parallels between lovely earnings reports out of Wall St or political bombshells. Like clockwork.

You have to admit it does draw attention away from SQ42 allowing it to sink back into the shadowy world of maybes and wishes for another year.

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CellarDweller
Jan 19, 2014

Down In The Pit... There's It!

Sarsapariller posted:

LTI has always been the riot-maker. Any time they gently caress with LTI there is a revolt, because the specter of losing the six-hundred dollar ship that you haven't even got to sit in is too much for the most hardened fan to swallow. It reminds them that CIG has absolutely no idea what they're doing with regards to value or time-for-money, that they're just kind of making it up as they go along, and that any guarantee made today could go out the window tomorrow if a more convenient source of income comes along.

Remember that they are buying social class along with the jpeg. LTI is a guarantee that they wont wind up a dirty space poor after a goon related mishap. Having to mix Hairy Roberts for people because pgabz clipped through a door and flew their $500 chariot into the sun is these space captains of industry's worst nightmare.

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