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rudatron posted:what's the over/under for acquittal/"lone wolf mental health patient" They have him cold. All the state needs to prove is that he had a gun and was on school grounds. He'll appeal on the motions he lost but he's being found guilty this week.
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rudatron posted:what's the over/under for acquittal/"lone wolf mental health patient" 2 weeks
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Pook Good Mook posted:They have him cold. All the state needs to prove is that he had a gun and was on school grounds. But it might mess up his promising football career that he will embark on at 45.
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May 7, 2018 15:55
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Crain posted:When you're so desperate to look cool you decide to throw out basically all of actual history: "we wuz spartans"
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May 7, 2018 16:09
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lol that apparently white supremacists think all current greeks are turks pretending to be greeks when all evidence is that no, greeks just always looked like that, your aryan ideal has always been a lie
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Ghost Leviathan posted:lol that apparently white supremacists think all current greeks are turks pretending to be greeks when all evidence is that no, greeks just always looked like that, your aryan ideal has always been a lie Most people's image of ancient Greeks is from paintings painted by the people who made Jesus Norwegian.
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May 7, 2018 16:12
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Jose posted:https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/992126897416036354 Reminds me of @Sweden letting one person every week run their Twitter account, resulting at some serious shade being thrown our way from random people in Sweden.
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May 7, 2018 16:23
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I had no idea this is what his voice sounded like. In retrospect it makes sense, but holy poo poo he's the silliest man I've ever seen.
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May 7, 2018 16:26
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Ghost Leviathan posted:lol that apparently white supremacists think all current greeks are turks pretending to be greeks when all evidence is that no, greeks just always looked like that, your aryan ideal has always been a lie lol the spartans were chumps anyway, they won the peloponnesian war but it was long and basically destroyed greece while the persians laughed and left greece wide open to the macedonians anyway yeah gotta paper over that ethnic diversity in europe for a bad point Business Gorillas posted:tbh all you really gotta do is bring up the fact that the confederacy's plan after winning the civil war was to create a slave empire in latin america and the carribbean whenever someone starts yammering on about state's rights keep in mind that throughout most of the antebellum period, the main perceived threat to slavery was the british, not northerners or domestic abolitionists- the pro-slavery interests mostly dominated the federal government through almost all of the antebellum period after john quincy adams' presidency there were a lot of arguments borne out of that, and many of the aggressive designs were mostly in trying to deflect perceived british plots, particularly in cuba One of the more perceptive arguments they made is that you can't really have a free citizenry without a servile class, which is probably a better insight on capitalism than many people had at the time- they were just unabashed about the need to exploit said servile class. They also accused the British of hypocrisy through the other methods of unfree labor relating to peonage. only in the 1850s and the massive territorial gains did free-soilers become more of a going concern and they were still mostly shut out of the executive until 1860 in which the southern politicians had an extremely emotional shitfit despite the fact that even northern governments were entirely willing to compromise on slavery
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Panzeh posted:only in the 1850s and the massive territorial gains did free-soilers become more of a going concern and they were still mostly shut out of the executive until 1860 in which the southern politicians had an extremely emotional shitfit despite the fact that even northern governments were entirely willing to compromise on slavery Historian Manisha Sinha describes slave state culture as fundamentally counterrevolutionary in her aptly-named "The Counterrevolution of Slavery," which for my money is a pretty solid was to label the South's attempts to create a separate, anti-democratic, pro-slavery American state.
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Reclines Obesily posted:i couldn't tell, like no media are covering it. from what i can gather there were 1500 supporters and a few hundred protesters Football Lads Alliance is a far-right group, Veterans Against Terrorism was formed after the Manchester Arena Bombing and denounce groups like the EDL while closely associating with the Football Lads Alliance.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Historian Manisha Sinha describes slave state culture as fundamentally counterrevolutionary in her aptly-named "The Counterrevolution of Slavery," which for my money is a pretty solid was to label the South's attempts to create a separate, anti-democratic, pro-slavery American state. of course it was. antebellum southern culture was absolutely steeped in fuedalism with large land owning families holding power. it was reactionary in the extreme.
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Panzeh posted:lol the spartans were chumps anyway, they won the peloponnesian war but it was long and basically destroyed greece while the persians laughed and left greece wide open to the macedonians Don't forget, the Persians rented out their navy to Sparta in the Peloponnesian War. Yep, the same Persians that the Spartans tried to keep out of Greece only a few years before.
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chitoryu12 posted:I had no idea this is what his voice sounded like. In retrospect it makes sense, but holy poo poo he's the silliest man I've ever seen. Lol he is totally faking that accent
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i mean his voice will never beat jordan petersons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PESYQ6TGwhQ
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Ghost Leviathan posted:lol that apparently white supremacists think all current greeks are turks pretending to be greeks when all evidence is that no, greeks just always looked like that, your aryan ideal has always been a lie I thought they did mix pretty well though? Like how a bunch of Turks are actually greeks
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Jose posted:i mean his voice will never beat jordan petersons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GdkGwzSBxI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCMmx3suL_E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfHEXAHQUkE
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The war was inevitable because of the mutually antagonistic interests of slavers and free labor. Differences in culture and religion were already non-issues because of semi-autonomy afforded to the states, and the disestablishmentarianism cemented in the constitution. Saying a war was inevitable because the North and South were just so different is moronic. Which may again have led to broader insurrection. Selling out your comrades to feel good about your vanguard party rep has accomplished exactly gently caress-all in comparison.
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May 7, 2018 18:34
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Lawman 0 posted:I thought they did mix pretty well though? afaik most migrations in premodern times were less totally killing or displacing and then replacing the original inhabitants, than some folks move in, kill some of the original inhabitants and rule over the rest, and eventually they all blend together. So yeah a lot of Turks are basically Greeks who converted to Islam and learned Turkish. Similarly English people are as much Celt as anything and just assimilated into Anglo Saxon culture when those guys migrated to/conquered England.
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Pornographic Memory posted:afaik most migrations in premodern times were less totally killing or displacing and then replacing the original inhabitants, than some folks move in, kill some of the original inhabitants and rule over the rest, and eventually they all blend together. So yeah a lot of Turks are basically Greeks who converted to Islam and learned Turkish. Similarly English people are as much Celt as anything and just assimilated into Anglo Saxon culture when those guys migrated to/conquered England. turks themselves arent even from anatollia they’re from the central asian steppes
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Crain posted:When you're so desperate to look cool you decide to throw out basically all of actual history: Isn't it true by the end of the first century that the Legions increasingly were not recruiting from Italy, but from places like North Africa, Asia Minor and Syria, (which is when that armor design is from)? Also the Crusader would totally kill the viking/ slav. (The one area the Crusade were successful was in the baltic.) Crowsbeak has issued a correction as of 19:30 on May 7, 2018 |
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Crowsbeak posted:Isn't it true by the end of the first century that the Legions increasingly were not recruiting from Italy, but from places like North Africa, Asia Minor and Syria? Also the Crusader would totally kill the viking/ slav. not only that, they were increasingly having trouble with those goddamned ax-having pagans to the north, and doing their best to wipe them out
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Crain posted:When you're so desperate to look cool you decide to throw out basically all of actual history: I guess that illustrator never heard about Greece from the time of Phyrrus onwards.
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hot take here: european unity is a made up idea created by neo-marxist postmodernists attempting to put an end to the concept of borders and national identity.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:hot take here: european unity is a made up idea created by neo-marxist postmodernists attempting to put an end to the concept of borders and national identity.
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Crowsbeak posted:Isn't it true by the end of the first century that the Legions increasingly were not recruiting from Italy, but from places like North Africa, Asia Minor and Syria, (which is when that armor design is from)? Also the Crusader would totally kill the viking/ slav. (The one area the Crusade were successful was in the baltic.) Rome never gave one gently caress about skin color. Their sense of Roman vs. Barbarian was based on whether or not you accepted Roman culture, and they even had an African emperor at one point while viewing white people as barbarians for being of a different culture.
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skin color was not associated with race until chattel slavery tia
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GWBBQ posted:Football Lads Alliance is a far-right group, Veterans Against Terrorism was formed after the Manchester Arena Bombing and denounce groups like the EDL while closely associating with the Football Lads Alliance. interesting thing about this video is how old a lot of the right-wingers look. one guy must be a 50-something skinhead. looks like he let his hair grow a bit but the red suspenders give it away oi! 
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:https://twitter.com/Henry_Langston/status/993123666354417664 Lindsey Shepherd the “free speech” activist and founder of a “society for open inquiry” at Wilfrid Laurier university, finally got to hold another event after crowdfunding $5000 for security, with headline speaker Gad Saad  look at all those bright young students doing open inquiry! such diversity of viewpoints!
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chitoryu12 posted:Rome never gave one gently caress about skin color. Their sense of Roman vs. Barbarian was based on whether or not you accepted Roman culture, and they even had an African emperor at one point while viewing white people as barbarians for being of a different culture. note the African Emperor was Italian through and through. he was born in Africa but he wasn’t exactly African.
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chitoryu12 posted:Rome never gave one gently caress about skin color. Their sense of Roman vs. Barbarian was based on whether or not you accepted Roman culture, and they even had an African emperor at one point while viewing white people as barbarians for being of a different culture. Oh I knew they didn't for the most part give that much of a poo poo about skin color. (They did believe though that based on where you were born climatically might lead to one accepting or not accepting civilization.). But I just could have sworn reading that by the 2nd century they were not getting most of their recruits from Italia. Also, yeah about the Spartans and Persia and Persia supporting various faction in Greece in general, really if the Persians had not been distracted by a revolt in Egypt, I wonder if Philip of Macedon would have actually been victorious if Persia had been able to send their full support to the anti Macedonian forces. Also Septimus Sevarus's father at least was half Libyan Berber origin. So he actually was part African. Also the fresco of Septimus Servus certainly suggests a man of dark complexion. I find it rather interesting how in many ways his policies would lead to the crisis of the third century, although that wouldn't be clear for two decades. Crowsbeak has issued a correction as of 21:01 on May 7, 2018 |
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Crowsbeak posted:Oh I knew they didn't for the most part give that much of a poo poo about skin color. (They did believe though that based on where you were born climatically might lead to one accepting or not accepting civilization.). But I just could have sworn reading that by the 2nd century they were not getting most of their recruits from Italia. legions were typically locally recruited and there generally weren’t many legions in Italy. Generally there wasn’t any.
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chitoryu12 posted:Rome never gave one gently caress about skin color. Their sense of Roman vs. Barbarian was based on whether or not you accepted Roman culture, and they even had an African emperor at one point while viewing white people as barbarians for being of a different culture. Which emperor was this? I must know more.
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CharlestheHammer posted:note the African Emperor was Italian through and through. Septimus Severus is distinctly dark skinned in at least one surviving portrait.
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BurntCornMuffin posted:Which emperor was this? I must know more. septimus Severus. won the civil war in the year of the five emperors.
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Jose posted:i mean his voice will never beat jordan petersons the best voice is Mark Levin who is such a loser that a voice actor who literally made up a stupid voice for a dense, idiotic cartoon character beat Mark Levin to his game by six loving years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYz0RaZSMsA mark levin isn’t even cool enough to sound like himself, he is literally a parody of a cartoon
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Ripoff posted:the best voice is Mark Levin who is such a loser that a voice actor who literally made up a stupid voice for a dense, idiotic cartoon character beat Mark Levin to his game by six loving years. Wasn't Swampland a member?
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DrManiac posted:aren’t Vikings and crusaders known for pretty much just raping and pillaging? Yes. And white supremacists are in for a very rude awakening trying to use crusaders as a pan-European symbol when they get over to the Orthodox world. They're uh, not exactly popular there.
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