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Actually I really hope they fix the bahamut gacha and coin storage. They only stack to 10k (so if you’re constantly burning orbs at a reasonable rate that’s 70~ item slots if you wait til the end). And only pulling 5k at a time is awful.
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May 7, 2018 16:27
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While its utterly unsurprising that they would poo poo up the step-up, I haven't seen this level of denial and shilling in many months on the BE reddit. I also enjoy the multiple people posting over and over about how even in JP players felt the banner was "too generous" in its original incarnation so of course it MUST be toned down. In the only gacha game of this size/popularity despite its absolutely poo poo rates. Beautiful. Love the one comment about how players like that are basically saying "Thanks for not eating spicy food before making GBS threads in my mouth!" when they pull this crap.
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May 7, 2018 17:41
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Evil Fluffy posted:I wonder how much they'll screw us on UoC tickets, or if they'll just never add them. Given how utterly loathe they are to give global any free rainbows that are from the entire pool, God forbid a specific one? Or that global is the only one's to have had any, much less multiple, cash only rainbow offers? We're still lightyears behind JP in all forms of freebies or compensation as we approach the 2 year mark of global in June. I don't see why they're going to do anything differently besides continuing to experiment with how greedy they can be. UoC tickets would go against everything they have been doing here, especially since we "know" what's coming and it would impact some percentage of their future sales. Hell they still transparently drop surprise banners, either type ones or now DQ out of nowhere AND type ones, before the next cash grab. Plus bullshit like the Nier banner when we get a surprise ultra garbage 4 loving star exclusive because of how good 9S' TMR was/is. Seems incredibly unlikely. They shamelessly and repeatedly squeeze global, no reason to expect otherwise after almost a full 2 years of this.
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May 7, 2018 17:50
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Messing with the UoC tickets would be a stupid move. playerbase rioting aside, no one would loving touch any banners except the most generous of stepups due to needing two of a rainbow to make it endgame usuable.
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May 7, 2018 18:14
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I actually have saved 26k lapis waiting for this event, but I just can't be assed to spend it now. I know that I'll end up with a really good 5* unit, but I can't help but imagine they'd gently caress with the rainbow rates even more just to give some extra poo poo to players.
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May 7, 2018 18:28
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Yep. I was gonna take two laps and burn 50k on this banner, but it doesn't really seem worth it anymore. Gonna save my laps.
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May 7, 2018 18:36
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I wasn't sure before because my 7* roster isn't exactly great (Noctis, Fohlen, Lightning, Prishe) but now I'm definitely hoarding until Nier returns, SoM Flammie, or VP collabs come up. I used that 4th step up 10% 5* Ticket on batch 2 to commemorate the step up and got a Kefka.
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May 7, 2018 18:42
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There's a poo poo load of hyperbole because for past few months gumi has been way better than Alim in just about everything. It's disappointing that they dropped the ball with the step up because a 10+1 and rainbow ticket is way better than the moogle you would get in JP
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May 7, 2018 19:19
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Here’s the best plain English explanation of the step up banner reveal and it’s global nerf. https://www.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExvius/comments/8ho8t8/global_sephirothlila_stepup_banner_analysis/ quote:TLDR:
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May 7, 2018 20:52
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what a lot of people are not mentioning is that Alim came out in a livestream after the Sephiroth banner and directly stated that they made a mistake on that steup and gave away too many rainbows. there was NO way we'd end up with what they had.
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May 7, 2018 21:06
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Maybe the hackers will come back and fix the banner.
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May 7, 2018 21:37
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Dana Crysalis posted:what a lot of people are not mentioning is that Alim came out in a livestream after the Sephiroth banner and directly stated that they made a mistake on that steup and gave away too many rainbows. there was NO way we'd end up with what they had. Yeah, but Gumi could have at least given us the 1.5x rainbow rates on step 4 like the current step-up banners have and not just c/p the awful FF8 version.
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May 7, 2018 21:41
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The worst thing is the 90% Bedile ticket. If that could be changed to 50% rainbow or even 25% rainbow, it would go a long way.
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May 7, 2018 21:55
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Should I just dump all my tickets on this rate up banner? I have no mages other than BK Sakura, so a TT, Fry #2, or Barbie would be p. chill I've got chainers for days and all the other major functional groups...
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May 7, 2018 22:30
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Cartoon Man posted:The worst thing is the 90% Bedile ticket. If that could be changed to 50% rainbow or even 25% rainbow, it would go a long way. Yeah the 10% Rainbow ticket is just insulting. I'd have 3x 4* tickets.
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May 7, 2018 22:42
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The 10% tickets should be 1/10 of a 5* ticket or something. They are technically better tickets but in an almost insulting way.
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May 7, 2018 22:51
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Yeah you should be able to smash 10% 5* tickets into each other like moogles and increase the percentage!
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May 7, 2018 22:53
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PSA: The JP Xenogears event ushered in a new era of powercreep. Fei/Elly/Bart and Jecht/Auron are noticeably more powerful than older 5* units. I actually had to change the weighting on Famitsu scores due to creep (they max out at 23 now). Also, despite the fact that Gumi shafted us on the step-up, this is still a really good banner to pull on if you need some power tier units. This is especially true if you don't have Mystea or Ayaka yet, as a third 11-pull guarantees Shylt. He's another group magic tank that specializes in damage mitigation and debuff prevention, including Ayaka's group stop prevention and full break prevention on the same ability. You want this guy. 
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May 7, 2018 23:13
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While it's bullshit that they nerfed our stepup compared to Japan's, I'm still gonna do a full lap here. I completely missed out on Mystea and Basch, so I've been starving for a magic tank. Couple questions though; I know Sephiroth's supposed to be really versatile when it comes to chaining, but who all does he work with out of the box? Will I finally have a good excuse to start using 2B again, or is just relegated to collecting dust since everyone's using Orlandu/Fryevia now? Also, is Lila worth a drat, or is she just lovely compensation unit I have to look forward to after spending 25k lapis? 
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May 8, 2018 00:02
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Here's a cool thing about our own power creep. Fryvia beats the poo poo out of Seph. Doing about about 60% more damage than him while dual wielding. I think Famitsu jumped the gun on the xenogears unit. Is Elly strong? Hell yes! Is she a full point ahead of T.Terra? No, I don't think so, not when T.Terra can still alpha damage harder than her, and whats the point of having stronger sustain damage if you wipe out the trial on turn one anyways? Fei is strong too but I don't think he should be that high when Randi does similar damage with more chain patterns. quote:Couple questions though; I know Sephiroth's supposed to be really versatile when it comes to chaining, but who all does he work with out of the box? Will I finally have a good excuse to start using 2B again, or is just relegated to collecting dust since everyone's using Orlandu/Fryevia now? Also, is Lila worth a drat, or is she just lovely compensation unit I have to look forward to after spending 25k lapis? Seph becomes the Ur chainer at 7* having access to every chain patter other than auriele ray but his damage isn't particularly noteworthy. Its just the flexibility of being able to DW/TDH and having every chain pattern that makes him good. You can never go wrong with a Seph as your main unit, its just that you can always be more right. Lila wont be that good in GL, she cant stack spirit that high do to limitations on materias, she is extremely fragile by nature and her 7* isn't particularly noteworthy. Cao Ni Ma fucked around with this message at 00:17 on May 8, 2018 |
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May 8, 2018 00:13
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hamburgers in pockets posted:While it's bullshit that they nerfed our stepup compared to Japan's, I'm still gonna do a full lap here. I completely missed out on Mystea and Basch, so I've been starving for a magic tank. Lila is arguably better than Seph at 6* despite her Varance rating. She's a chainer that only works with herself because of how her attacks work(she uses her SPR and hits as a Magic damage) and her frames are weird iirc. Seph at 6* works with OK and the Orlandeau family(his 7 hit chaining move also debuffs light and dark by 60% and his LB does both by 100%). He doesn't have DW innately, and at 7* becomes a TDH guy. PaybackJack fucked around with this message at 00:22 on May 8, 2018 |
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May 8, 2018 00:16
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Here's a cool thing about our own power creep. Fryvia beats the poo poo out of Seph. Doing about about 60% more damage than him while dual wielding. Well I guess thank the Gumi Gods I pulled Fryevia #3 today dicking around...
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May 8, 2018 00:16
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Do I spend my 15k lapis on the current banner in hopes of getting a Fryevia, or do I wait until the Seph banner and just get the guaranteed 5*?
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May 8, 2018 00:43
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It was agreed in Discord that the Batch banners are usually a trap
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May 8, 2018 01:36
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hagie posted:It was agreed in Discord that the Batch banners are usually a trap To be fair, this Magic/Hybrid banner only has one stupid rainbow on it. Barbariccia: Tornado + Aeroja is still amazing and will continue to be so when we get more 5* casters with that setup. Dark Fina: A lesser pull mitigated by the fact her TM is still BiS for most mages Fryevia: is the best Trance Terra: is also the best, but has an already proven the best 7* Emperor: similar to Dark Fina in that currently the TM is the best thing about him, but his 7* is kind of amusing Jiraiya: Man, this guy just sucks. sucks sucks sucks. stupid ninjas.
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May 8, 2018 01:49
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The problem with the banners is that there are pretty obvious trash pulls in them only there to sour you. The general idea is that if you just want one of the units then its about the same rate as pulling on a 2 5* banner. If you want 2 of them then its about the same as pulling on a single 5* banner. Anything above that ultimately ends up pulling ahead than normal banners. Like seriously Jiraiya is one of the worst units ever designed, whoever put him there is obviously making GBS threads on everyone.
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May 8, 2018 01:55
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Of note: 7* dfina is also good for TTerra alpha striking because she can turn 1 120% dark imperil. (7* TTerra can do dark or fire damage chaos waves)
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May 8, 2018 02:09
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PaybackJack posted:Lila is arguably better than Seph at 6* despite her Varance rating. She's a chainer that only works with herself because of how her attacks work(she uses her SPR and hits as a Magic damage) and her frames are weird iirc. ExviusWiki will probably downrate Lila, as you can't stack Spirit as hard as you can in JP. Until their ratings come down from ExvWiki, I'm twinning the Famitsu rating for her (that's what the red means) Varance fucked around with this message at 02:18 on May 8, 2018 |
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May 8, 2018 02:11
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Varance posted:ExviusWiki will probably downrate Lila, as you can't stack Spirit as hard as you can in JP. Until their ratings come down from ExvWiki, I'm twinning the Famitsu rating for her (that's what the red means) While that's true, she's effectively a MAG attacker which has it's own set of pluses and minuses. So even if you can only stack her to 1000 SPR, you're comparing that to how high you can stack other MAG users. And then her attack is still a ridiculous 10x 14-hit that she can use twice(three times on powerup) in a single turn. It's not really fair to compare her to Seph because he has some great imperils, chains with the two of the most popular chaining families, and while there's been some closing of the gap; ATK is still more useful than MAG. Trance Terra is probably her closest competition and overall damage wise she's probably pretty close to her. Her major downsides are that she's going to eat all the SPR gear that you'd normally give to your healer and as you mentioned you can't stack it that high. Also her 7* form is apparently very underwhelming so she's not a good long term investment. Seph is worth rolling for if you want Auron later as Seph's TMR is BIS for Auron.So I don't think Lila is hype worthy, but she's not the troll rainbow everyone would think she is. She's better than Cloud or Elfreeda, and the difference between her and Seph is far less than the difference between Cloud and Elfreeda. PaybackJack fucked around with this message at 08:47 on May 8, 2018 |
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May 8, 2018 08:42
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Said "gently caress it", threw 5000 lapis at the current banner and walked away with a Fryevia in mild disbelief. What's her BIS gear look like these days? I can give her the following: Fryevia's Needle Deathtrap Minstrel's Prayer Seabreeze Dark Fina's Swimsuit Ring of the Lucii x2 Loren's TMR Adventurer V - - Is it still best to give her Letters and Arms? Or should she be getting the +30% attack and magic materia instead? E: I don't have any Kunshira, so that's not an option for me. Skyridge fucked around with this message at 11:59 on May 8, 2018 |
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May 8, 2018 11:56
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So what kind of event does the Sephiroth banner come with? Another King Mog one, exploration one?
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May 8, 2018 12:13
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Infected posted:So what kind of event does the Sephiroth banner come with? Another King Mog one, exploration one? Another King Mog. Probably another raid right after the current one, just to make our souls bleed.
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May 8, 2018 12:17
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I need to TMR grind and catch up to the story sometime. These King Mog events are... tiresome.
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May 8, 2018 12:30
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Skyridge posted:Said "gently caress it", threw 5000 lapis at the current banner and walked away with a Fryevia in mild disbelief. While stacking a single stat is better, your atk portion of the hybrid damage will bring down your average damage. With enhancements it’s pretty easy to reach the mag cap. I’m not 100% sure but I believe L&A is better than the 30/30 materia for damage. But if you were to slot in two L&A into the build you have there you’d be over the mag cap, and 30/30 does beat out 40% mag for the 4th slot.
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May 8, 2018 14:05
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Ugato posted:While stacking a single stat is better, your atk portion of the hybrid damage will bring down your average damage. With enhancements it’s pretty easy to reach the mag cap. I’m not 100% sure but I believe L&A is better than the 30/30 materia for damage. But if you were to slot in two L&A into the build you have there you’d be over the mag cap, and 30/30 does beat out 40% mag for the 4th slot. I think Fryevia only risks breaking her cap when you single wield. DW builds don't need to worry about that; I could be wrong.
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May 8, 2018 14:40
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Also you just need to worry about one materia slot, the last materia should be a killer. Fryevia does take advantage of physical killers.
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May 8, 2018 15:07
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PaybackJack posted:I think Fryevia only risks breaking her cap when you single wield. DW builds don't need to worry about that; I could be wrong. I was thinking TTerra numbers (110 passive). You are correct. Even with 2xring and 3x L&A you hit the cap exactly for Fryevia. And I did get to do the math. The difference is pretty small (<10% in most cases) even if you slant heavier toward def or spr. As long as the defensive stats are even then getting the most total +atk/mag combined is definitively ahead (BIS being Loren’s TM, 2x Lucy ring and 3x kunshira tm). Double 30/30 beats out double L&A in even distribution of defenses. The cases where L&A are better than 30/30s are things like Aigaion which can only be spr broken - Aigaion takes almost 5% more damage with the mag heavy build assuming a 60% break. Kunshira build beats out both even on the Aigaion scenario. If you want a build that’s generally good and low maintenance it’s hard to go wrong with the full hybrid build and swap in appropriate killer(s) as needed. Ugato fucked around with this message at 17:05 on May 8, 2018 |
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May 8, 2018 16:55
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If you have a genji glove it's better to have that and save the materia for another kunshiras. 3 kuns, Genji, Lucii, Killer Is her BIS
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May 8, 2018 17:31
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If I had a Genji Glove, I'd definitely be using it.
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Skyridge posted:If I had a Genji Glove, I'd definitely be using it. Same. Or a Loren materia... 
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