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But I thought the clothes were supposed to be on top of the body because fidelity, not just replacing parts of the body with pre-baked clothed models
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May 8, 2018 12:22
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History Comes Inside! posted:But I thought the clothes were supposed to be on top of the body because fidelity, not just replacing parts of the body with pre-baked clothed models If you believe that, I have a render-to-texture hologram to sell you. Cash only, no store credit, of course.
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May 8, 2018 12:34
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lol I forgot about using mouse wheel to walk faster, how do you swap weapons again?
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May 8, 2018 13:08
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peter gabriel posted:lol I forgot about using mouse wheel to walk faster, how do you swap weapons again? Dear god, you are venturing into it again?
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May 8, 2018 13:19
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Colostomy Bag posted:Dear god, you are venturing into it again? No but I really should at some point to see all the improvements and new content
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May 8, 2018 13:25
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peter gabriel posted:No but I really should at some point to see all the improvements and new content Already more content than several AAA titles according to the backers. They're not known to be wrong.
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May 8, 2018 13:27
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Here are all my clips from that dude's stream yesterday. Beet tried talking some sense to the guy and his insane rebuttal is that SC skeptics are like Flat Earthers, they discard inconvenient evidence like the incredible progress CIG is making. CIG could be in serious trouble https://clips.twitch.tv/BigCalmJackalDuDudu "Can anybody bail me out of Phase 2?" https://clips.twitch.tv/SingleBoredWoodcockDoggo [CONCERN] https://clips.twitch.tv/ImpartialLongStingrayDancingBanana Sat on a toilet for a whole day https://clips.twitch.tv/CoyFaithfulGrassKippa Going to be so sad when the game comes out https://clips.twitch.tv/PoorConcernedPuddingPoooound 1000% Belief https://clips.twitch.tv/RenownedAntsyWaffleBCouch Trouser stuffing https://clips.twitch.tv/FamousCarefulTurnipDAESuppy I'm hoping I can get Beet on ARGcast today and perhaps we will discuss in more detail. Recording will commence sometime after 5:30 EST today if you want to join in on the conversation message me on Discord. Paging Galarox!!!!
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May 8, 2018 13:54
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Discord posted:Littlebitofmadness: so i had a great little dogfight test in the pu and then in Arena Commander with another streamer in the latest PTU patch.. The flight model seems worse now SPECTRUM posted:Should CIG no longer sell Concept ships?
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May 8, 2018 14:30
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So Trump has 'The Piss Tape'. Think there could be some weird fetish tape involving people at CIG and Squatty Potties?
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May 8, 2018 14:30
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Mirificus posted:https://twitter.com/durzax739/status/993546122584121344 It's like a 5 year old with a temper problem was somehow let onto Twitter. I'm not sure if he or pgabz is more angry 
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May 8, 2018 14:51
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Virtual Captain posted:Here are all my clips from that dude's stream yesterday. Beet tried talking some sense to the guy and his insane rebuttal is that SC skeptics are like Flat Earthers, they discard inconvenient evidence like the incredible progress CIG is making. Common tactic; "No, _you_ are a matter of faith; I'm rubber, you're glue, etc." Everything becomes a political argument without a set of established facts, it's one of the reasons that https://starcitizentracker.github.io/ is so important. It becomes a reference to the technical debt that curiously shuffles around and is refracted through the lens of Jared taking to the developers to find out that things are backlogged. Establish the fact - None of that 'people say', or 'it's plain to see'. They have to define the parameters of things like progress in terms of the list of sodding features, rather than a vague feeling. Science creates tests that anyone can run. Faith evades testing. Always. And I've tackled Flat Earthers before, they're just a cover for other varieties of shitlord or publicity-hungry youtube rat. poo poo, most of the 'Apollo landings are fake' guys take a sharp left into the 'Jews control everything' territory before you're through the first pint.
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May 8, 2018 14:53
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Incitatus posted:So Trump has 'The Piss Tape'. Think there could be some weird fetish tape involving people at CIG and Squatty Potties? its tickling all the way down at cig
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May 8, 2018 14:59
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Bofast posted:It's like a 5 year old with a temper problem was somehow let onto Twitter. I'm not sure if he or pgabz is more angry He's not arced into feminization insults yet, but you're certainly seeing the first bloomings of testosterone giving voice to misguided tribalism. Edit: peter gabriel posted:No but I really should at some point to see all the improvements and new content It's gonna be pgabz very shortly. Hav fucked around with this message at 15:12 on May 8, 2018 |
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May 8, 2018 15:00
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I wonder if in the deepest recesses of his mind Chris is aware, on some level, of the incredible game, community, and opportunity he squandered, and if he fully comprehends the horrifying joke of a game and cesspool of a community that replaced it.
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May 8, 2018 15:05
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Loving all this pipeline chat, thanks SC
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May 8, 2018 15:09
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BadNewsBaron calls attention to Chris' pledge, outside investors, sunken(sp) cost fallacy, and calls the store orders a "pre-order — not pledge. Not this far along" in a new Medium article: BadNewsBaron: Star Citizen’s New Moves Prioritize Sales Over Backers imo a full disclaimer should be attached. Yesterday he said he's spent 15k in the RSI store and has a "working relationship" with the company. Virtual Captain fucked around with this message at 15:22 on May 8, 2018 |
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May 8, 2018 15:14
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Virtual Captain posted:BadNewsBaron calls attention to Chris' pledge, outside investors, and calls the store orders a "pre-order — not pledge. Not this far along" in a new Medium article: This article is a shill piece masquerading as criticism. A sample: Pure Bullshit Stated as Fact posted:It’s worth noting that the CIG of the kickstarter — Chris Roberts, a dozen people, and a dream — is not the CIG of today. There are five development studios and hundreds of employees globally. People have been hired, fired, acquired, moved and shaken. This isn’t a bad thing. It’s enabled the infrastructure that is turning Star Citizen into not just a dream of the most ambitious game ever, but the real deal, and one now visibly on track to near future completion. The most ambitious game ever. The real deal. Near future completion. I assume medium.com is prepared to refund a few hundred thousand to backers who read that line and think CIG is a safe bet? Or is it caveat emptor only in hindsight? Cowards. Scruffpuff fucked around with this message at 15:25 on May 8, 2018 |
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May 8, 2018 15:23
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Sometimes I think about Star Citizen and wish it were actually finished and a good game. I know neither of these things will ever happen though. I don't get why Chris Roberts had to be so greedy. RSI should have just released a modest game to start with and build up from there. It has worked really well for Elite: Dangerous.
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May 8, 2018 15:27
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Ironically, "the sliding scale of Star Citizen skepticism" is something I used to refer to me, in chat. The whole "with us or against us, firm believer or Derek Smart alt" thing he was pulling was pissing me off, and I simply explained that there are various degrees of "scam" that go beyond "Yo , Chris is gonna take the money and run off to Mexico, for realz". Despite what shitposting I've done here in the forum, I think they are , in fact working on a game. But I also think they're doing a terrible job at it. And more importantly, I think in the end it doesn't matter because the huge amount of shady behavior the company engaged in will make whatever "Game" comes out of this irrelevant. Battlefront 2 was objectively a pretty decent game. It doesn't matter because it was tied to one of the most heinous and exploitative marketing schemes in recent gaming, and therefore, is in fact complete garbage. By the way, I still don't get if these people refuse to understand how some outsider might think this is a scam (due to fear that it might be true), or are they really that dumb. EDIT: Someone should explain to them the whole "hire a construction team to build you a house, and they drag it on while charging you by the day" analogy. Sample_text fucked around with this message at 15:49 on May 8, 2018 |
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May 8, 2018 15:46
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Virtual Captain posted:
I'll be there!
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May 8, 2018 16:02
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Sample_text posted:Ironically, "the sliding scale of Star Citizen skepticism" is something I used to refer to me, in chat. The whole "with us or against us, firm believer or Derek Smart alt" thing he was pulling was pissing me off, and I simply explained that there are various degrees of "scam" that go beyond "Yo , Chris is gonna take the money and run off to Mexico, for realz". It's magical thinking, it's everywhere nowadays, and it does a pretty good job of pissing me off when I think about it, so I try not to. A good example is a statement someone made when Steam decided to make game review comments disabled by default: "How am I supposed to combat bullshit reviews?" The answer is, of course, twofold: first, it's a review, which is by nature opinion, and doesn't need to be engaged in "combat." It's an opinion. Second, as an opinion, it can't be "bullshit" - it's something something you can either agree or disagree with. What the poster should have said was "How can I let people know that the opinion is wrong and mine is right?" which is what he really thinks. This dovetails into my overall point, which is what Star Citizen's invisible internet war is really about : magical thinking. Four tenets prop this up: - If enough people say Star Citizen is a scam, then it is a scam - If enough people say Star Citizen is not a scam, then it is not a scam - If enough people say Star Citizen is coming out, then it will come out - If enough people say Star Citizen is not coming out, then it will not come out This has been a social shift that's been accelerating in the last few years, I usually refer to it as "the democratization of reality": the belief that reality itself is nothing more than what the most popular opinion says it is. If you want something to be true, just say it is, get enough people to agree, and now it is true. No matter what your eyes tell you, you can tell yourself "this other thing is true" and when the person to your left and the person to your right both agree with you, your eyes and other senses are now overruled and what they tell you can be discarded. As a result, violent political and/or social thought wars emerge with each side doing nothing more than yelling what they think is true, and doing everything they can to silence the other side. This is "winning" and it will make Star Citizen come out and be good. The beautiful thing about reality is that it doesn't give a poo poo about people or their opinions, it just lumbers like a juggernaut, flattening everyone in its path no matter what they believe. The reality of Star Citizen is a juggernaut of humor lumbering toward an unknown yet infinitely humorous future.
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May 8, 2018 16:08
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Scruffpuff posted:The beautiful thing about reality is that it doesn't give a poo poo about people or their opinions, it just lumbers like a juggernaut, flattening everyone in its path no matter what they believe. The reality of Star Citizen is a juggernaut of humor lumbering toward an unknown yet infinitely humorous future. But enough about Ben...
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May 8, 2018 17:00
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Virtual Captain posted:BadNewsBaron calls attention to Chris' pledge, outside investors, sunken(sp) cost fallacy, and calls the store orders a "pre-order — not pledge. Not this far along" in a new Medium article: I read the article and was going to link to Baron's Twitter, but I forgot he blocked me at some point. Oh well. The article, and nearly every post on Reddit "criticizing" this stuff, ignores a pretty fundamental problem... there is no justification whatsoever for CIG to be aggressively pushing for new funding. They've received a massive amount of funding, several times their original amount, and they've had ample time to scope and budget for things. On top of that there's the infamous quote from Chris about how they have enough money to finish the game regardless of their funding status (which IMO is about as optimistic and delusional as anything else Chris says). The fact that CIG is even resorting to these tactics should be cause for concern, and yet instead backers are focusing on how unfair it is that they can't get the latest JPEG without spending even more money.
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May 8, 2018 17:02
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Virtual Captain posted:Yeah this is my general reaction as well. I think this sale upset the cart a bit only because this ship has more appeal for some dumb reason, it "can hold tanks" and will drop huge bombs. Yeah sure it will. It's quite simple actually. Look at how long Citizens have been trying to cram things that do not belong into places they do not fit. They have tried to make EVERYTHING a pocket carrier. Well guess what? Now they don't have to. This is the perfect thing for them to cram all of the things into and take them somewhere else without having a Bengal or Idris. Of course they are going to be....emotional. Well, that and the fact that CIG is wiping their rear end with old backers money. New cash or suck it up cupcake and buy your own goddamed tonks.
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May 8, 2018 17:04
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How useful is a kill on sight list when the game will only ever support like 20 people in an instance?
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May 8, 2018 17:08
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intardnation posted:check with Beet but I think since the new year they have been almost impossible to get now. Just got ANOTHER love letter from Don Karnage telling me to just be patient a little longer. That Refund Specialist will be right with me.....
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May 8, 2018 17:10
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DapperDon posted:Just got ANOTHER love letter from Don Karnage telling me to just be patient a little longer. That Refund Specialist will be right with me..... I haven't been paying much attention to the thread, but are you trying to get a refund? How long have you been waiting?
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May 8, 2018 17:20
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Sample_text posted:By the way, I still don't get if these people refuse to understand how some outsider might think this is a scam (due to fear that it might be true), or are they really that dumb. Some of these peoples' identities got all mixed up with cig and star citizen because of how large their monetary, emotional or reputational investments are. Saying "It is reasonable to think Star Citizen is a scam" becomes functionally the same thing as "It is reasonable to think that you are a moron".
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May 8, 2018 17:21
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Sample_text posted:EDIT: Someone should explain to them the whole "hire a construction team to build you a house, and they drag it on while charging you by the day" analogy. Ignore 'The Money Pit', and head straight for the pure strain Cary Grant with 'Mr Blandings builds his dream house'. It's still one of the best examples of emotional decision making ultimately leading to a shitshow.
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May 8, 2018 17:28
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DapperDon posted:Just got ANOTHER love letter from Don Karnage telling me to just be patient a little longer. That Refund Specialist will be right with me..... Karnage: HEY! We finally managed to get you the refund specialist. Sandi: Piss off! Karnage: This concludes our refunding procedure. Is there anything more I can help you with?
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May 8, 2018 17:30
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Hav posted:Common tactic; "No, _you_ are a matter of faith; I'm rubber, you're glue, etc." If they are willing to piss off people who are throwing in 100-200 + bucks per ship upgrade to a new ship for the 300-700 I think they are in trouble. This is costing them whales the one resource they have and cant lose. It will be interesting to see if they really do close the wallets after this and actually force change.
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May 8, 2018 17:47
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DapperDon posted:Just got ANOTHER love letter from Don Karnage telling me to just be patient a little longer. That Refund Specialist will be right with me..... still nothing hmm this has been a long time now. You have gone to authorities as well. Guess the last step is court right - if it gets to that? (Edit - small claims) Hang in there hopefully it can come through for you. intardnation fucked around with this message at 17:59 on May 8, 2018 |
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May 8, 2018 17:49
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Your article is a hatchet piece, propaganda to rile up the populace. Please stop. https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/8hxmsm/star_citizens_new_moves_prioritize_sales_over/dyna0u8/
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May 8, 2018 17:50
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alf_pogs posted:its tickling all the way down at cig feathers and funnybones
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May 8, 2018 17:52
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Scruffpuff posted:This article is a shill piece masquerading as criticism. he wont rock the boat - he already said as much because he has too much at stake with freebies and access with CIG. CIG could be closed, game servers gone and he would be shilling for CR next project just in hopes his dream is possible. Never mind what would be good for the community, players, people and overall gaming in general - gently caress that noise ma access and loving freebies. Could you imagine if the streamers went after the community, and CR and such and the media caught on as well - it could have been an entire different ball game by now. But then I guess games media is just an PR extension of games these days.
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May 8, 2018 17:56
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intardnation posted:If they are willing to piss off people who are throwing in 100-200 + bucks per ship upgrade to a new ship for the 300-700 I think they are in trouble. This is costing them whales the one resource they have and cant lose. It will be interesting to see if they really do close the wallets after this and actually force change. This is more a mistep; they'll peel off some more people, and the disgruntled are already 'goons' and 'fakes', so it'll lurch along until they lose traction. They're already losing traction, but we actually said a while back that any _perceived_ change to the value of the goods already purchased will cause issues, which is part of the sub-hilarity waiting to explode when they _clarify_ the roles of ships that have already been sold. It's like every rebalance pass ever, but instead of having invested and captured subscribers/customers/victims, they're working on the promise of future subscribers. As scruffpuff says, they're fostering magical thinking and the idea that believing hard enough (and killing all dissenters) will bring about nirvana. I've never quite seen such a goon win/win before.
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his nibs posted:Your article is a hatchet piece, propaganda to rile up the populace. Please stop. That's how business work.
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Hav posted:Ignore 'The Money Pit', and head straight for the pure strain Cary Grant with 'Mr Blandings builds his dream house'. It's still one of the best examples of emotional decision making ultimately leading to a shitshow. I prefer the Pentagon Wars.
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