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The India changes shown in recent dev diaries look amazing, I really hope that the rework to Burma is enough to generally keep Ming from getting their stupid tentacles into the subcontinent. With that and all of the new regional formables I can see India being a very dynamic region, but if Ming still quickly make many of the minors into tributaries it's going to be a pain.
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i hope one of the new burmese tags have burmese ideas, and also are tribal
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May 8, 2018 18:43
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Drone posted:My issue's with the decision to become Hanover. The tooltip says that you can only do it when you are A.) no longer part of the HRE, or B.) an Elector. On top of that, the wiki says that another way to satisfy the requirement is to become Emperor. So yeah, I'm Emperor and not an Elector, and I still can't take the Hanover decision. I guess the wiki is wrong, and it's a little frustrating (if for nothing else than it means I have to miss out on the sweet flag of Hanover and the non-generic national ideas). https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Hanover I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that being the emperor allows the decision. Like you said, you have to either be an elector or not part of the HRE. Are you maybe misreading something?
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May 8, 2018 18:47
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Fister Roboto posted:https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Hanover On the HRE page: quote:Non-electors forming nations results in those nations leaving the HRE, unless they are the emperor (e.g. if Holland is the emperor, Holland can form the Netherlands without leaving the HRE). I'm guessing either that text is out-of-date, or the requirement is (for whatever dumb reason?) only applicable to certain formable nations and not all of them.
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May 8, 2018 19:01
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I think it just means that if you meet either of the two requirements AND are the emperor, you won’t leave the HRE when you take the decision, which you would otherwise.
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Drone posted:On the HRE page: You’re conflating a general principle (can’t be kicked out of the HRE by forming a nation if you are elector or emperor) with a specific requirement for THIS formation (can’t form Hanover unless you are an elector or not in the empire, doesn’t matter whether you are emperor or not).
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May 8, 2018 19:08
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 Well now, that's the first time I've seen the AI form Mughals, nice work Timurids!
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RabidWeasel posted:The India changes shown in recent dev diaries look amazing, I really hope that the rework to Burma is enough to generally keep Ming from getting their stupid tentacles into the subcontinent. With that and all of the new regional formables I can see India being a very dynamic region, but if Ming still quickly make many of the minors into tributaries it's going to be a pain. What does your heart tell you? Do you think they will adjust Ming at all with this expansion? I mean the ideas are out there, it's just in the last two expansions they've shown they are not willing to fix it.
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May 9, 2018 06:23
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Tahirovic posted:What does your heart tell you? Do you think they will adjust Ming at all with this expansion? I mean the ideas are out there, it's just in the last two expansions they've shown they are not willing to fix it. They do seem to acknowledge that it's a problem though.
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 Whew, it's been a long time since I took a game to 1821 but I hit tech 32 at 1810 and figured why not at that point.  Good run for achievements.  Here's the military screen, 16/5 leaders  Also I stopped drilling around 1710 and got professionalism (when I needed it) solely by making generals.  This is far and away the best economy I've ever had, If I had another 20ish years I could have hit the ducat cap.
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Detheros posted:
My ongoing Coptic Ottoman HRE game also features a mega-Timurid-Mughal state. Like, it spans the Urals, a huge chunk of Central Asia, Mesopotamia and northern India. It's my own fault though, I decapitated Muscovy and ruined the Mamluks and then became too preoccupied with Europe.
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May 9, 2018 08:41
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nice Goguryeo Tahirovic posted:What does your heart tell you? Do you think they will adjust Ming at all with this expansion? I mean the ideas are out there, it's just in the last two expansions they've shown they are not willing to fix it. It does actively gently caress things in eastern India, whereas it wasn't directly relevant to the other expansions that have come since MoH. Other than the Russia one I suppose but I think the European side of that was what they focused on more.
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May 9, 2018 17:52
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Detheros posted:Also I stopped drilling around 1710 and got professionalism (when I needed it) solely by making generals. So Reman in his videos said not to drill armies, so I haven't been. Should I?
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May 9, 2018 18:09
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May 9, 2018 18:12
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JerikTelorian posted:So Reman in his videos said not to drill armies, so I haven't been. Should I? This is not a thing he has ever said. Why are people in this thread so bad at taking advice?
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May 9, 2018 18:27
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JerikTelorian posted:So Reman in his videos said not to drill armies, so I haven't been. Should I? Don't drill armies to have drilled armies, drill them to get high professionalism.
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May 9, 2018 18:29
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Like I'm not trying to be a dick, but there is a constant problem here with people asking for advice on when to do X, people saying "well X has some pretty serious drawbacks so don't do X all the time" and that getting interpreted as "literally never do X".
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May 9, 2018 18:33
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sloshmonger posted:Don't drill armies to have drilled armies, drill them to get high professionalism. There's situations where having that extra combat ability will be very decisive. i.e. essentially exactly what Fister Roboto said
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May 9, 2018 18:35
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drilling isn't bad it just sucks and is very short lived and i'm usually using my units to fight instead of accruing professionalism
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May 9, 2018 18:36
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oddium posted:drilling isn't bad it just sucks and is very short lived and i'm usually using my units to fight instead of accruing professionalism This. I'll usually only drill if I'm stuck in a regency, otherwise I demand my pixelmen die for the glory of whatever country I'm running into the ground.
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May 9, 2018 18:56
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JerikTelorian posted:So Reman in his videos This line alone is probably the single worst thing about weird fetish worship of people who make videos.
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May 9, 2018 19:02
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Reman does make exceptionally good videos though.
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May 9, 2018 19:11
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No doubt. But taking everything as gospel and never, ever going outside some very narrow preset without realizing they're just guidelines leads to all the weird stuff like believing drilling is never good.
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Reman has never said to never drill though, lol. It would be one thing if the guy was taking Reman's advice as the gospel, but he's not even doing that.
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Fister Roboto posted:Like I'm not trying to be a dick, but there is a constant problem here with people asking for advice on when to do X, people saying "well X has some pretty serious drawbacks so don't do X all the time" and that getting interpreted as "literally never do X". Rynoto posted:No doubt. But taking everything as gospel and never, ever going outside some very narrow preset without realizing they're just guidelines leads to all the weird stuff like believing drilling is never good. Fair points, but to be honest I'm on pretty much my first actual game of EU4 since vanilla, and it's hard to have nuanced understandings of obscure values when I'm still ironing out my understanding of basic mechanics. I think this is the general problem with taking the stance of "just don't do X" because for most learning players that's a more optimal strategy than trying to use some feature, because it's not uncomon for some things to be really bad in this game when used incorrectly (many of the idea groups), while some other choices are simple and explicitly useful. sloshmonger posted:Don't drill armies to have drilled armies, drill them to get high professionalism. This helps, thanks. Is it gonna be worth actually doing even if I'm already in the 1680's? JerikTelorian fucked around with this message at 20:25 on May 9, 2018 |
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Maxing out of Professionalism seems like it's always good, so do it if you can. And I drill if my economy can handle it because I like having a blue bar.
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I never drill my armies and I can still get to 100 professionalism and kick my enemies' asses so it's not like you miss on something if you never drill  it can be useful, sometimes even a life saver, but it's not required at all.The beauty of this game is that, barring extra hard, gimmick, or WC runs, you can get by (and do it quite well) even if you take the suboptimal path on some aspects so long as you can make sound decisions and keep your poo poo together. E: appropriatemetaphor posted:Maxing out of Professionalism seems like it's always good, so do it if you can. And this, too
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A better argument is that if you're not at war or preparing for one and you can spare the cash, there's no reason not to drill. How often that scenario comes up is another matter of course.
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Fister Roboto posted:A better argument is that if you're not at war or preparing for one and you can spare the cash, there's no reason not to drill. How often that scenario comes up is another matter of course. I found the bit where he says that Drilling/Professionalism wasn't worth it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gutDqekiqc&t=797s tl;dr: Mercenaries are still too good for professionalism to be worth much. I can't say I fully understand the point, though. Edit: I apparently don't even have Cradle of Civilization, so it's a moot point! JerikTelorian fucked around with this message at 22:49 on May 9, 2018 |
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Again "not really worth it" doesn't mean "literally never do it". My point still stands that if you're in a situation where there's no reason not to drill, then you should. Also keep in mind that a lot of Reman's advice comes from a perspective of super optimized hyperblobbing and world conquest, with the basic assumption that you're going to be constantly at war or as often as possible.
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TorakFade posted:The beauty of this game is that, barring extra hard, gimmick, or WC runs, you can get by (and do it quite well) even if you take the suboptimal path on some aspects so long as you can make sound decisions and keep your poo poo together. This right here. That Commonwealth game I posted? No hired mercs at all. (I actually stopped hiring mercs when professionalism came out.) Also my troop composition was 15/10/20 when in hindsight I should have went 20/10/30. You can play suboptimally and more importantly imo, have FUN while doing it, and do as well as I did.
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Yeah, Reman's advice is almost always objectively the best choice but the style of play is also extremely monotonous unless you're that particular type of person.
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Koramei posted:Yeah, Reman's advice is almost always objectively the best choice but the style of play is also extremely monotonous unless you're that particular type of person. That's why his best videos are the deep-dive breakdown "Here's how this works" type rather than "Is it worthwhile to do X?" videos. His analysis of exactly how the various combat and trade systems work are fantastic, and worth knowing even if you don't plan to optimize a world conquest
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Fister Roboto posted:A better argument is that if you're not at war or preparing for one and you can spare the cash, there's no reason not to drill. How often that scenario comes up is another matter of course. I've found drilling to be particularly useful when I want the benefit of -unrest and I'm not worried about enemies jumping me too much. I had one time someone war declared me the month after I started drilling, but I was a little weaker than them militarily so not sure if it played into them attacking. But you get full -unrest value while drilling, and even a small amount of drill that gives you say -2.5% damage taken and +2.5% damage done is a fairly decent.
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 So what's the formula for "Derise provinces" and why is it so horribly broken.
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I'm real late to the party, but I just started playing again since the CoC changes to persia/the middle east and holy heck are they good. This is definitely my favorite region to start in now.
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Senor Dog posted:I'm real late to the party, but I just started playing again since the CoC changes to persia/the middle east and holy heck are they good. This is definitely my favorite region to start in now. Yeah it's super great, my only real complaint is that the Timurids are back to usually being an unholy terror if you don't gently caress with them early and fast.
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RabidWeasel posted:Yeah it's super great, my only real complaint is that the Timurids are back to usually being an unholy terror if you don't gently caress with them early and fast. I think there’s actually good variability in the region right now. Tims sometimes win, sometimes Ajam, sometimes Transoxiana, sometimes weird random poo poo like Afghanistan. My only complaint is that it’s a little too hard for the winner to complete their regional dominance. Even if Tims do reign in all the vassals and consolidate into a lasting great power, you still don’t see Mughals forming often. It’s still much more interesting region than many others though.
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Is there any way to force a one province vassal into becoming a Free City? I’ve only got 6 going as Forever Emperor of The HRE, Austria and by 1600 I’ve only got the first 3 reforms. Only one center of reformation left in the world at least.
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