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Sinteres posted:It looks like Hezbollah and its allies won a majority of seats in the Lebanese election, though Hariri seems likely to remain as PM because the PM of Lebanon always has to be Sunni. gently caress. So this means (for example) Trump and friends will have a point when they say "Lebanon equals Hezbollah, Hezbollah equals Lebanon", huh? 
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Spacewolf posted:gently caress. So this means (for example) Trump and friends will have a point when they say "Lebanon equals Hezbollah, Hezbollah equals Lebanon", huh? Well they only reach the majority with Sunni allies, and they still don't actually lead the country, but yeah it'll make it easier to blame all of Lebanon for anything Hezbollah does. I'm going to guess the brilliant 'kidnap the PM' gambit by MBS didn't help a whole lot when it came to the election, but if the intent is just to ruin Lebanon maybe it'll end up working out for him.
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Russia is European when it is convenient (dunking on Muslims, East Asians, or anyone from the -stans) and not-European when complaining about gays, The Perfidious Jew, or fascists. Rent-A-Cop fucked around with this message at 15:13 on May 7, 2018 |
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Rent-A-Cop posted:ftfy I'd deffo see the official propaganda machine going this way. I mean, if you've got that big a country, why not take advantage of it and claim whichever regional nationalist/ideological stance is most convenient at the time? Far murkier is the popular consensus, what with that opposition leader to Putin being jailed and released as of late...but I'd imagine most are okay to just roll with whatever's the status quo if it doesn't personally inconvenience them, same as the rest of the world.
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Spacewolf posted:gently caress. So this means (for example) Trump and friends will have a point when they say "Lebanon equals Hezbollah, Hezbollah equals Lebanon", huh? Already tweeted out by the Israeli Education Minister: https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1I80FW quote:"Hezbollah = Lebanon," Education Minister Naftali Bennett, a rightist in the Israel's conservative coalition government, said on Twitter on Monday. Edit: Replaced PressTV with Reuters OhFunny fucked around with this message at 19:10 on May 7, 2018 |
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Hezbollah gave the previously marginalized shia in lebanon an actual voice (along with electricity, water, basic social services that the government never provided) and defended the country when Israel invaded in 2006. Of course they're loving popular.
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Hariri's party lost 1/3 of their seats compared to last elections, mostly their Sunni vote. I guess the kidnap fiasco and loss of Saudi money got to his voting base. There are some strong Sunni politicians from Tripoli who can challenge him now to the PM seat, but he will probably stay on. Hezbollah-Amal status quo and again cemented their political legitimacy. Biggest winners seem to be the two nominally Christian parties actually, Lebanese Forces and Free Patriotic Movement. The former doubled their seats and the latter gained more by some clever political alliances. Biggest drama was perhaps the initial report of a seat won by an independent candidate in one of Beirut's electoral districts, Joumana Haddad. Female, atheist, hipster by ME standards. But after a recount she lost the seat. Overall, pretty low turnout 49-50%, in Beirut only 35%. So I guess the urban voters don't really care. They are still counting the votes apparently in some districts.
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tekz posted:Hezbollah gave the previously marginalized shia in lebanon an actual voice (along with electricity, water, basic social services that the government never provided) and defended the country when Israel invaded in 2006. Of course they're loving popular.
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Lebanon is pretty bigoted towards Syrian refugees in general so starvation sieges go over pretty smoothly as well.
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https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/993563017336967168?s=19 We'll know what's what soon in regards to the Iran Deal.
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OhFunny posted:https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/993563017336967168?s=19 Do we really need to guess? Presidental manbaby ruins everything, everyone else tries to pick up the pieces.
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OhFunny posted:https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/993563017336967168?s=19 so its war than probaly because thats what trump wants anyway. https://www.balloon-juice.com/2018/05/07/war-with-iran-a-campaign-of-catastrophe/ i wonder if we will hit vietnam casualty figures.
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I'm betting on the longshot where D-Money gets peace with Iran and NK in the same month and then literally dunks over Obama's head on the way to the begrudgingest Peace Prize in history. Unlikely? Sure, but if it happens I'll make a fortune.
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Squalid posted:The Nib, an online publisher, ran a comic on the subject of Syrian schools by a Syrian woman. Reads like a ton of the poo poo European colonial schools did across the world, especially for students from the "subject races" instead of the children of the colonizers themselves. And then mashed up with the peak of Nazi/fascist military schooling stuff. Very odd to see it continuing at the same sort of intensity. fishmech fucked around with this message at 00:44 on May 8, 2018 |
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KA-52 brought down by manpads https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3623182
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I'd put money down on 2.
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Lol...like playing Russian Roulette with half the chambers loaded. Tho okay, maybe it is an airsoft gun instead of a real one...
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Lol sky news. https://twitter.com/SkyNewsAust/status/992933144297848832?s=20
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When we cant blame iranian agents, we usually go for secretive muslim brotherhood cabals and sleeper agents. Sky news arabia was also spearheading the media blitz on alienating qatar last year.
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fishmech posted:Reads like a ton of the poo poo European colonial schools did across the world, especially for students from the "subject races" instead of the children of the colonizers themselves. And then mashed up with the peak of Nazi/fascist military schooling stuff. Very odd to see it continuing at the same sort of intensity. Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 11:04 on May 8, 2018 |
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I think he'll re-certify, saying next time he won't. I wouldn't want to put money on it though.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:ftfy I would say the reserve is more or less true, especially on the forums when are routinely denounced as Asian barbarians etc etc. It is fun.
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Count Roland posted:I think he'll re-certify, saying next time he won't. He's already done this.
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I'm betting on 4 because that's the worst and stupidest choice in the list.
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Cat Mattress posted:I'm betting on 4 because that's the worst and stupidest choice in the list.
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7. Doesn't mention Iran, just talks about his EC victory and rants about witch-hunts and Dems.
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https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/993877703601291265?s=19 I think that all but removes any thoughts I had he'd be swayed away from doing this. But hey 2 hours to change his mind! Edit: oh they're going with 3. quote:The United States is preparing to reinstate all sanctions it had waived as part of the nuclear accord — and impose additional economic penalties as well, the person said. OhFunny fucked around with this message at 17:25 on May 8, 2018 |
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One of the basic things a country must do to consider itself a serious partner in anything is to honor their treaties and agreements. what is about to happen now is that america will have signed away any ability for people to consider any treaty with it as serious.
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Al-Saqr posted:One of the basic things a country must do to consider itself a serious partner in anything is to honor their treaties and agreements. what is about to happen now is that america will have signed away any ability for people to consider any treaty with it as serious. Luckily, China and Russia are waiting in the wings to take advantage of such. ....which was the goal I suspect. https://twitter.com/KenWeinstein/status/993894618285535232
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What is the angle here, what can he possibly win with this besides money for the military industrial complex
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CommieGIR posted:Luckily, China and Russia are waiting in the wings to take advantage of such. If the goal was to please Russia then they'd stay in the agreement. Trump is looking to please Bibi and MBS, and their various supporters. It also keeps the neocons happy.
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Count Roland posted:If the goal was to please Russia then they'd stay in the agreement. No, not really. Russia/China want to appear to be the reasonable parties to make treaties with, and throwing the US diplomatic reputation down the tubes helps that goal immensely.
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Al-Saqr posted:One of the basic things a country must do to consider itself a serious partner in anything is to honor their treaties and agreements. what is about to happen now is that america will have signed away any ability for people to consider any treaty with it as serious. This trend has been ongoing since GWB unilaterally walked out of the ABM treaty, but this is a new low. We're back into might-makes-right.
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Count Roland posted:If the goal was to please Russia then they'd stay in the agreement. What does Russia lose if we withdrew from the agreement? I only see upsides for them unless the US withdrawing actually destabilizes Iran, which I don't see happening
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Flavahbeast posted:What does Russia lose if we withdrew from the agreement? I only see upsides for them unless the US withdrawing actually destabilizes Iran, which I don't see happening I think its a pretty good chance Iran is destabilized because of this. Or maybe not as a direct cause, but because it signals the US is again getting Tough on Iran and it edges things close to a military confrontation. But its true, the US looking like a villain is not the worst thing for Russia and China. They'll take advantage of it regardless.
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Remind me, why might Iran be gearing up to rustle Israel’s jimmies?
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Darth Walrus posted:Remind me, why might Iran be gearing up to rustle Israel’s jimmies? Israel's escalated from bombing their proxies in Syria to bombing Iranian forces in that country directly. They're throwing punches and then acting like Iran is the bully that's trying to start a fight with them. That's not to say that Israel doesn't have any reason to be unhappy with Iranian influence on their border, but 'we don't like who our neighbor is allying with, so we're going to go ahead and attack them' isn't something we accept from a lot of other countries.
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