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aejix posted:Fair play on point 1, agreed there. It's probably the longnecks that are preventing me from parsing point 2 - you're basically saying that the focus groups/internal polling/whatever have shifted negatively in significant enough numbers that they need to pump in however many pints of virgin blood are required to reanimate the corpse of Howard, in order to get him to throw out a few soundbites that will be dutifully repeated ad nauseum on every murdoch- or commercially-owned media outlet without question, promising money to the exact people on whose face the Libs have spent their entire lives grinding their boots? No, I'm saying that Howard can see that Newstart is a problem, and isn't prevented from describing it like the people actually in office right now. It isn't a play from the media handbook because they don't care. Despite the RDS (Relevancy Deprivation Syndrome), Howard is actually trying to help the party see what the electoral dangers are.
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JBP posted:I think you're referring to Matthew Condon's books which own but you're correct they're investigative non-fiction. The Lord's Premier is ok (forget author) but some of it is loving boring. Joh for PM owns. Peter Beattie's book contains interesting Joh content and a decent read. thanks
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I hate journalists. I assume it's the Arse but it could just as easily be the SMH. https://twitter.com/MichaelPascoe01/status/994018624942755840
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JBP posted:I take back what I said about them retaining we have a mastermind on the case for the liberal party. I didn't see this coming. he's bitching about the Batman byelection
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Starshark posted:I hate journalists. I assume it's the Arse but it could just as easily be the SMH. no that’s smh
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Birdstrike posted:no that’s smh I'm smh
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just reiterating that Three Crooked Kings, Jacks and Jokers and All Fall Down are the bees knees.
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I just can't wait for Fairfax an the ABC to hand the coalition another election by a bees dick, so we can have another 3 years of clown show government.
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Derryn Hinch puts his finger on the Newstart problem:quote:Independent Senator Derryn Hinch said he was disappointed the budget did not look at Newstart. Want those tax cuts passed, you know what to do, Malcolm. But the prize goes to the BCA (remember them, they're not at all political) for claiming it wanted the cuts aaaages ago. quote:"As the Business Council of Australia noted as far back as 2012 the level of Newstart '...may now be so low as to represent a barrier to employment'," he said. Really? It must have been under their voice alone in a room 10 stories underground.
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Malaysia's opposition alliance led by the country's former authoritarian ruler Mahathir Mohamad has won a majority in parliament, ending the 60-year rule of the National Front. Oh joy. Another Dictator.
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Anidav posted:Malaysia's opposition alliance led by the country's former authoritarian ruler Mahathir Mohamad has won a majority in parliament, ending the 60-year rule of the National Front. This is the first time the Malaysian government has changed hands since independence, in 1963.
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And the person who kicked them out was the former 90 year old dictator who resigned in 2003. Im guessing both options are bad. But still, electing a 90 year old dictator seems to be a bit odd. Also one of his election promises was to literally pardon all of his buddies in prison and then hire them.
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Anidav posted:And the person who kicked them out was the former 90 year old dictator who resigned in 2003. At least some of those buddies were stitched up by the previous regime
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ewe2 posted:Derryn Hinch puts his finger on the Newstart problem: Stop calling adults under 30 "kids" you bastards.
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ewe2 posted:Derryn Hinch puts his finger on the Newstart problem: I like that even when he’s pushing something progressive Hinch doesn’t even try to pretend that he cares about anyone under 40
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Your only human when you turn 41 and buy your first tie rack with a vast collection of polka dot ties.
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Kommando posted:Stop calling adults under 30 "kids" you bastards. calling a 20 year old a kid hitting hard for you? is this a rabbit hole we want to go down 
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Yeah who gives a gently caress
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the pretty obvious subtext is that young people being in poverty is ok but when it’s older people that’s when we need to be concerned
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bell jar posted:calling a 20 year old a kid hitting hard for you? is this a rabbit hole we want to go down well
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The obvious subtext is young adults can't make their own decisions and are not worthy of listening to.
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May 9, 2018 23:56
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All those middle aged battlers getting sacked unfairly, unlike young people with their steady and secure employment.
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Under 30s and 40s have been called kids forever by the generation old enough to be their parents it isn't some slight against you.
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"Kids" is it the new n word. Next on AusPol.
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bell jar posted:calling a 20 year old a kid hitting hard for you? is this a rabbit hole we want to go down He said "20-year-old pimply kids who just don't want to work" which is utter bullshit and might as well be the Libs party line.
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when you think about it young people will be old people eventually but it’s never the other way around so might as well increase the old age pension as it will benefit both
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JBP posted:Yeah who gives a gently caress BBJoey posted:the pretty obvious subtext is that young people being in poverty is ok but when it’s older people that’s when we need to be concerned This.
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The subtext is that he is old. You'd think after yesterday where young and old workers acted together to try and benefit everyone across all industries you people might make a leap to try and get over this kind of "they called me kid  " horseshit
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yeah there's still that misconception that if you're young you can just walk down the street, hand in your resume and magically get a job, so obviously anyone who's young and on newstart is just too lazy and doesn't want to work 
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JBP posted:The subtext is that he is old. You'd think after yesterday where young and old workers acted together to try and benefit everyone across all industries you people might make a leap to try and get over this kind of "they called me kid Under 40 and homeless? Clearly just doesn't want to work! Better belittle them and imply that they're practically still teenagers/children
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Also, may I just chime in here and say age based wages are the greatest load of bullshit ever. If a job is worth doing it's worth paying a 13 year old the same as a 20 year old, don't entrench child labour by paying them less and making it more enticing for companies to hire year 8s and turf them before graduation.
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Under 40 and homeless? Clearly just doesn't want to work! Better belittle them and imply that they're practically still teenagers/children The problem is the wealthy not the old you loving jackass.
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Also, may I just chime in here and say age based wages are the greatest load of bullshit ever. If a job is worth doing it's worth paying a 13 year old the same as a 20 year old, don't entrench child labour by paying them less and making it more enticing for companies to hire year 8s and turf them before graduation. lol "entrenching child labour" hahaha
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tell me, does paying women less encourage companies to hire them more. does underpaying women entrench female labour 
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bell jar posted:tell me, does paying women less encourage companies to hire them more. does underpaying women entrench female labour it's because female labour is seen as inherently worth less than male labour and I'm sure it's similar with young people
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Anyway, library services are female-dominated and they're paid poo poo wages. Except maybe for the CEO-type positions which have a lot of men in them.
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