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Matsuri posted:I like. Would probably definitely slam in Throne of the God Pharaoh into the maindeck to synergize with all the mans you're putting down and swinging in with, as well as give you some more scry from the Artificer's Assistant too.
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AnEdgelord posted:I thought RTR had higher EV than Avacyn Restored? http://mtg.dawnglare.com/?p=sets&pack=1 the difference is likely how much of them was printed, so Avacyn Restored has had its modern-relevant cards appreciate in value more because less of them exist. you can buy a RTR booster box for the same price as a standard-legal booster box.
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May 9, 2018 18:50
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quote:Dragon's Maze w/o Shocks $0.57 
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May 9, 2018 19:06
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whydirt posted:Casting cost aside, Karn seems more like a Siege Rhino type card that is powerful enough to be ubiquitous and annoying throughout its life in Standard, but not strong enough to warrant a full ban. Rhino's rule over KTK standard is a little overstated. There were tons of great decks that could deal with it, and abzan wasn't always the best deck to be playing. But yeah it was certainly drat good.
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May 9, 2018 19:07
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tzirean posted:I think it's still below MSRP, but higher than any other Standard set. Dawnglare has it at $3/pack EV, which is more than anything else after Avacyn Restored. I think that’s still higher than cost or even what you could get it for on Amazon.
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ShaneB posted:Rhino's rule over KTK standard is a little overstated. There were tons of great decks that could deal with it, and abzan wasn't always the best deck to be playing.
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May 9, 2018 19:18
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Yawgmoth posted:IME the only people bitching about Siege Rhino were people playing decks with little to no real removal and just could not shut up about this one creature that was apparently the problem, not that they were trying to force RDW in a standard filled with lifelink and good removal. That RDW deck was loving rad though, especially for the $50 price tag that it came with. E: This is THS-KTK Standard, natch
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May 9, 2018 19:19
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Yawgmoth posted:IME the only people bitching about Siege Rhino were people playing decks with little to no real removal and just could not shut up about this one creature that was apparently the problem, not that they were trying to force RDW in a standard filled with lifelink and good removal. Siege Rhino was really only dumb in games where the first one had a reasonable (or unreasonable) impact for a four drop, and then they played Rhinos #2 and #3. The drain effect stacked well.
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May 9, 2018 19:30
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Hellsau posted:Siege Rhino was really only dumb in games where the first one had a reasonable (or unreasonable) impact for a four drop, and then they played Rhinos #2 and #3. The drain effect stacked well.
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May 9, 2018 20:56
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This is why i go to reddit for the ~~in-depth meta analysis~~ Edit: this is for MTG Arena 
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May 9, 2018 21:00
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A Moose posted:This is why i go to reddit for the ~~in-depth meta analysis~~ Have these loving people never read a pie chart before?
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May 9, 2018 21:03
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quote:THS-KTK Standard Still one of my favorite things was a T2 Ensoul Artifact on a Darksteel Citadel
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May 9, 2018 21:04
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Turn 1: Citadel, Ornithopter...tap for Springleaf drum Turn 2: Island, tap Springleaf and Ornithopter to Ensoul Citadel. Attack with a 5/5 indestructable. Life was good
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May 9, 2018 21:08
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Hellsau posted:Have these loving people never read a pie chart before? The only way it could be funnier is if aggro and control were combined and just called "stupid netdecks >:-( " All variations of control from R/U to U/B to 5 color good stuff to U/W both approach and non-approach = basically the same thing.
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May 9, 2018 21:15
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I know this is Arena... but if that's the future of standard, that's one healthy meta.
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May 9, 2018 21:23
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Tibalt posted:I know this is Arena... but if that's the future of standard, that's one healthy meta. This is what happens when you don't play for stakes and cards are super hard/expensive to get access to.
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May 9, 2018 21:32
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:A recent episode of the Leaving a Legacy podcast interviewed Adam Barnello, and he dropped the info that the deck we now know as Oops All Spells was developed on a forum he's a member of, as a joke, under a different name. I'm 100% sure he meant this forum and the original discussion about Breakfast Burrito. That's not my name, and IIRC it's not Chamale (or whatever he's called now) either, though I could be wrong, and I can't find our old facebook messenger thread to confirm. There was a third person writing playtesting programs for the deck, I don't remember their forums handle. It could also be MTG Salvation, where it was called Hobo With A Shotgun, or potentially other forums.
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May 9, 2018 21:46
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mcmagic posted:So how long can Karn hold 50 bucks for? Till they put a playset in the next Challenger Deck series. 
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May 9, 2018 21:48
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A big flaming stink posted:what inner sleeves do you use? i've never had any problems with kmc perfect fits. Sorry for the delay on this response. They are Dragon Shield inners. Though maybe there is something I don't know because the young lady who sold me the sleeves reached for the KMC inners first.
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May 9, 2018 22:41
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Magnetic North posted:I bought some Dragon Shield matte black sleeves and some clear inners. I'm facing the same problem the Prof did in his video where the inner peeks up off of the bottom of the card, and it's maddening. What's especially odd is that I got some Dragon Shield clear matte sleeves (to protect the cards in an old board game) recently and I had no trouble at all. This deck has some beat up cards, so just using the clears isn't an option. Thems are just the brakes with the old KMC hyper matts turning into poo poo. Dragonshields just don't work well with double sleeving consistently. Sometimes you get a batch that aren't too bad to sleeve up and others where it frustrates you to no end.
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May 9, 2018 22:47
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I've been using the KMC perfect fits and Dragon matte black sleeves for years and never encountered a problem at all, across literally hundreds of cards sleeved. I've never even had a sleeve split that entire time. You may have just gotten a lemon?
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May 9, 2018 23:01
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The Dragon Shield Mattes are pretty consistent, though they have the same problem DS has always had: they hold onto grime like no other so they're super durable but are covered in poo poo after a while unless you're willing to tediously wipe them down. The regular Dragon Shields are frustrating if you double sleeve. I've gotten through half a deck fine and then suddenly the rest of the sleeves in the pack are too tight.
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May 9, 2018 23:09
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The key is to bend the card https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyJPKvymIcY
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May 9, 2018 23:12
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Finally got into Arena. Anyone have a reference post with quick easy edits to these decks, or should I just take them out as constructed to get beat on while I learn the new UI? e; Is there really no discounting at all for buying packs in bulk? Ugh. The UI is nice and fluid overall tho. Just kind of playing vanilla Decks to match my quests and figure out how priority and poo poo hold. Nephzinho fucked around with this message at 23:40 on May 9, 2018 |
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May 9, 2018 23:28
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Finally got my German Dominaria box in! First box I've had in quite a while that was a net positive just off the big cards pulled. Also, one of the foils was Rona, Schülerin des Gix which looks loving baller and I need to make an EDH deck for now.
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May 9, 2018 23:37
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Achievement unlocked! I successfully cast Karn's Temporal Sundering to win a game in limited with Adeliz, the Cinder Wind and some Wizardbros giving the assist. Still salty I passed Naban P1P1 to take Spore Swarm (I think Spore Swarm is better in a random deck).
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May 9, 2018 23:39
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Ybrik posted:The key is to bend the card I am pretty sure all that is doing is stretching out the sleeve to allow it to fit better. I would really dislike bending cards like that just to sleeve it.
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May 9, 2018 23:39
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Tolarian Prof recently did a video where he said that the new art dragonshields don't have the same problems with double sleeving as regular ones. The only problem is the only matte ones are the green ones.
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May 9, 2018 23:42
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Nephzinho posted:Finally got into Arena. Anyone have a reference post with quick easy edits to these decks, or should I just take them out as constructed to get beat on while I learn the new UI? I found the Selesnya Pride (GW Cats) deck adding any decent white or green rares I had opened seemed like a solid way to get started. The stock decks just struggle against a deck gaining a decent amount of life. Don’t spend any of your wild cards until you decide what sort of deck you want to build though. One of the guys from my LGS spent all his wild cards upgrading one of the stock decks first day, now he is stuck with a deck he doesn’t really like until he grinds out enough wins to actually build up something reasonable.
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May 9, 2018 23:53
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Put an unsleeved card on top of the innersleeved card when you push it down. May need to pinch the bottom a little while pulling the unsleeved card back out. Works every time, takes like 2 seconds extra.
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May 9, 2018 23:54
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Standard prices tend to drop once mtgo redemptions become available. Like, right now Karn + Teferi + Lyra in paper costs more than buying a full set of Dominaria on mtgo and redeeming it. So once redemption actually becomes available, those are going to normalise.
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May 10, 2018 01:33
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Just took a survey where Wizards asked what monetary value I place on spindown life counters and I honestly answered nil. My cat does enjoy batting any that fall on the floor around until they go under the couch.
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May 10, 2018 02:23
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Owlbear Camus posted:Just took a survey where Wizards asked what monetary value I place on spindown life counters and I honestly answered nil. How does it feel to be completely wrong? 
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May 10, 2018 02:29
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i dont use em but i do like collecting em. it does make me a lil sad when supp products dont have the set symbols on em.
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May 10, 2018 02:30
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STONE COLD 64 posted:i dont use em but i do like collecting em. it does make me a lil sad when supp products dont have the set symbols on em. It makes me a lil sad that the AVR ones do have the set symbol on em.
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May 10, 2018 02:33
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Toshimo posted:How does it feel to be completely wrong? Oh man those old style pewter dial counters from when I was a kid were dope. But "spindown life counters" to wotc means "a sequentially numbered d20." They hold limited appeal to me, and have less utility in their designated function than the back of and envelope and a crayon.
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May 10, 2018 02:37
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Toshimo posted:How does it feel to be completely wrong? The superior life tracker, without question.
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Owlbear Camus posted:"spindown life counters" to wotc means "a sequentially numbered d20." Gross.
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May 10, 2018 02:42
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I despise spindown counters. Worthless as a die, no better for recorded life tracking than the old dial indicator so bring those back you loving monsters
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The worst part is that having something that looks vaguely like a d20 (even though it's not) seems to make people want to high-roll them to see who starts.
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