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Libluini posted:The extra crazy came from the last mech (a Cicada) hiding behind a stone, forcing us to wander across the map until we found it -that drat NPC never moved an inch! Twice now on Convoy Ambush missions, I've dealt with 3/4 of the Reinforcements but never found the last guy since by the time I'd dealt with the Convoy, the Escorts, and most of the Reinforcements I was too shot up to risk the last 'mech being something dangerous. Luckily I've been going ALL OF THE SALVAGE for the last little while desperately trying to get enough parts for a real Heavy (my Dragons don't count, they play like slightly bigger Mediums) so not getting another 10% bump on NONE OF THE CASH isn't hurting me, but it's a tad frustrating nevertheless.
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imweasel09 posted:Wait you can't kill the kickstarter pilots? Can you kill the ronin? Maybe they just have a higher likelihood of survival? Also, shout-out to Whisper, who managed to create a backstory that isn't cringeworthy.
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Ersatz posted:My Deadeye (Kickstarter pilot) was killed when his mech got cored. Every time I've had a non-KS/non-PC MechWarrior in a cored 'mech, they've died. I've lost Dekker, Medusa, and Snowman that way. Meanwhile, both my PC and Tinker (a KS pilot) just went to the hospital under the same circumstances, though since both of them ejected from the same AC-20 Dragon, maybe that's just a "lucky" 'mech.  There does seem to be some kind of survival boost going for the KS guys, and the PC is definitely immortal.
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jng2058 posted:Every time I've had a non-KS/non-PC MechWarrior in a cored 'mech, they've died. I've lost Dekker, Medusa, and Snowman that way. Meanwhile, both my PC and Tinker (a KS pilot) just went to the hospital under the same circumstances, though since both of them ejected from the same AC-20 Dragon, maybe that's just a lucky 'mech.
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May 10, 2018 16:10
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I'm the obviously retouched jawline.
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May 10, 2018 16:16
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In the same mission where I had Dekkar get punched in the face and turned into a fine red paste, I had a randomly generated newbie nobody pilot with 3 guts get shot to poo poo. The newbie survived. I also have never hired a ronin or KS backer. gently caress that noise.
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May 10, 2018 16:17
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Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:So there's a pretty big difficulty ramp for me after capturing victoria now I'm trying to take down a lance of mediums and a lance of mediums+heavies regularly. I just did that mission with my lance of a Dragon + 3 mediums. immediately after I had to cancel a mission because it said my lance was not heavy enough or something and I wouldn't cope. I guess I'm going to have to scout around for random heavy parts to get a couple of larger mechs to take on future missions.
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May 10, 2018 16:21
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Kickstarter backers pilots, I love them ironically and unironically. I would have reloaded for any of the three others, but M4J35T1C had the worst callsign.
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May 10, 2018 16:26
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What's the deal with the "unique" pilots who aren't specifically marked as KS backers? Were they also KS backers but at a higher tier or something? I've only seen one or two.
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May 10, 2018 16:28
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:What's the deal with the "unique" pilots who aren't specifically marked as KS backers? Were they also KS backers but at a higher tier or something? I've only seen one or two. I think the ronins are HBS premade pilots.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:What's the deal with the "unique" pilots who aren't specifically marked as KS backers? Were they also KS backers but at a higher tier or something? I've only seen one or two. They're the pilots used in multiplayer.
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Dravs posted:I just did that mission with my lance of a Dragon + 3 mediums. immediately after I had to cancel a mission because it said my lance was not heavy enough or something and I wouldn't cope. I guess I'm going to have to scout around for random heavy parts to get a couple of larger mechs to take on future missions. I'm going to try abusing long range murder bots and abuse knockdown.
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Flipswitch posted:I always try to cap the legs, you get 2 pieces of salvage and usually the weapons, plus it knocks enemies down and is easier to hit than the head. I might just start doing that. If you're overly enthusiastic with knocking out the pilots you end up coring them anyway.
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jng2058 posted:Every time I've had a non-KS/non-PC MechWarrior in a cored 'mech, they've died. The only MechWarrior I've had take a fatal was Glitch, in a side contract immediately after the prison mission. She didn't die, though.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:What's the deal with the "unique" pilots who aren't specifically marked as KS backers? Were they also KS backers but at a higher tier or something? I've only seen one or two. I wasn't confused by them until I read that list of pilots on Gamepedia which refers to them as Kickstarter Beta. And yeah, they're the pilots you always use in multi-player matches as was stated above, but they can (very rarely) be found in the single player as Ronin.
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I lost Glitch and Dekker in the same mission early on, then Behemoth took a boot to the head a couple missions later. 
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A rando named Nine was the only guy I've lost to headshot. My commander would have too but immortality. I did lose Behemoth and Medusa though to coring.
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KillianLett posted:I lost Glitch and Dekker in the same mission early on, then Behemoth took a boot to the head a couple missions later. My buddy just started playing a few days ago and today he told me he was restarting because he hadn't understood the mechanics and now that he did he was going to try again from the beginning. Oh, and that Glitch died in the first mission, and he didn't understand the meta about her. I told him no poo poo, if she dies before you get to learn how to use her and hear her lines, you won't. Idiot fucker. I also called him a war criminal for letting her die.
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I go out of my way to core everything. Do enough missions that way and you'll still get what you need. And it means you get shot at less!
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:My buddy just started playing a few days ago and today he told me he was restarting because he hadn't understood the mechanics and now that he did he was going to try again from the beginning. Oh, and that Glitch died in the first mission, and he didn't understand the meta about her. Wow what a Nazi.
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mlmp08 posted:I've had almost no trouble salvaging a every medium in the game, a fair mix of heavies, and now I have an assault (story) and 2/3 of two different assaults (procedural missions). Yea, try and CT Mechs to get more weapons. I also just spent a lot of time flying around checking out shops on planets with high tech/black market/manufacturing tags. I'd cruise there, do a contract for full cash, buy anything nice, and keep going. Shops restock when you leave a system so you can just do some loops. New Vandenberg/Brinton/Mechdur is a good section to try.
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:My buddy just started playing a few days ago and today he told me he was restarting because he hadn't understood the mechanics and now that he did he was going to try again from the beginning. Oh, and that Glitch died in the first mission, and he didn't understand the meta about her. glitch is not gonna gently caress you dude edit: 
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Also this is from like a week and a half ago, but it's been on my mind:Pattonesque posted:90% of the folks who play Mechwarrior Online are Dads, and 90% of those Dads are Tactical Dads who babble incessantly about FLANKING and SUPPRESSIVE FIRE and FOX 2 FOX 2 FOX 2 I just wanted to say that I really appreciate the term Tactical Dad and I'm probably going to incorporate it into my own personal lingo, so thanks for that. (A lot of guys like that make me kind of sad, though, because I know a lot of them got hosed up by their time in the service in the 00s especially.  )
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I might just start doing that. If you're overly enthusiastic with knocking out the pilots you end up coring them anyway. I've said "gently caress it" and preferentially core with called CT shots now. Keeps all the weapons and you're usually limited to X pieces of mech salvage plus junk anyway.
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Behemoth died super early in this run. She didn't get cored but rather mauled to pieces after getting knocked down and torn apart like a juicy lamb. Good night sweet behemoth.
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Its not hard to let the flow of battle help you decide if you want to try to KO a pilot, sweep the leg, or whatever. "Oh hey the last enemy mech left is a Grasshopper that fell over because I blew its leg off, and it has a head hit too. Lets target him/her with only LRMs to hope for an ammo explosion, Knock Down, and/or torso destruction so I can salvage it" OR "Hrmm I would love to try to salvage this Orion buuuut it will shred me if I try to get cute, lets target the CT".
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Its not hard to let the flow of battle help you decide if you want to try to KO a pilot, sweep the leg, or whatever. "Oh hey the last enemy mech left is a Grasshopper that fell over because I blew its leg off, and it has a head hit too. Lets target him/her with only LRMs to hope for an ammo explosion, Knock Down, and/or torso destruction so I can salvage it" OR "Hrmm I would love to try to salvage this Orion buuuut it will shred me if I try to get cute, lets target the CT". Any enemy mech might get a lucky shot and require me to spend 10 minutes reloading. Better to just blow them all up! Taear fucked around with this message at 18:33 on May 10, 2018 |
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Had a marathon session last night and went from Smithon to the end of the campaign. I got to see my first Glitch one-shot headcap with an AC/20++ which was both the most  and  event at the same time. I think I literally jumped forward in my chair was like "oh holy gently caress". I love this game. I just need more ++ and +++ weapons now.
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Whelp it was bound to happen i guess. After continously one-round killing and outrangeing them, a demolisher finally survived an alpha from my battlemaster, rolled forward and put an ac20 round straight into the head of my assault, instantly killing Rusalka, one of my first random hires I couldn't even avenge her, had to withdraw from the battle (assasination) since my Black Knight got downed and i couldn't risk loosing Behemoth too. Today i finally got my rear end kicked again, by Liao of all factions. I can only assume they where squawking the entire battle...
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Taear posted:Any enemy mech might get a lucky shot and require me to spend 10 minutes reloading. Better to just blow them all up! Seriously though, I'm seeing a massive uptick in headcaps in my game, did something change? I've yet to rob graves. One of the near headcaps was Glitch having her cockpit oneshotted to 1 hp. Was that luck, or do cockpit mods prevent oneshot kills to the head?
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BurntCornMuffin posted:Seriously though, I'm seeing a massive uptick in headcaps in my game, did something change? I've yet to rob graves. nah, that's a function of head structure ending in a 6, not a 5. as a result a number of weapons are flat incapable of oneshotting the dome, and can only get you down to 1
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Ze Pollack posted:nah, that's a function of head structure ending in a 6, not a 5. Notably, the PPC++ with the damage bonus is 1 point shy of being able to dome an assault mech, as is an un-bonused AC/10. The only weapons that can oneshot assault heads are the Gauss Rifle, AC/20, and the damage-bonused AC/10+ and AC/10++.
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mods change my name posted:glitch is not gonna gently caress you dude poo poo there goes my dream I hate you HCT
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I have a hot take about the writing for the single player campaign: it's pretty good! Battletech is built around 4v4 tank battles, with a lot of set dressing aimed at making it more badass. HBS is clearly trying to re-introduce the setting, with the understanding that this is the first Battletech story that a lot of players will be paying attention to. The dropship crew all talk like normal adults with jobs, which is great. None of them try to cram in wit or edgy emotional issues where it doesn't fit. During most of the random events, you get the best results by treating Kamea makes a contrast from that by talking like a destiny princess, because she sincerely buys her own nobless oblige hype about wanting to fight for her people. The game lets you know that she's egotistical and naive, but still believes in the poo poo she's saying. The narrative dares you to believe that, in a feud between scheming space nobility in an indefinite-warfare dark age, there can be people who go generally try to be good. I think that's kind of a braver narrative choice than, "it turns out everyone is a selfish poo poo forever." If that were the case, the factions might as well be Red Team/Blue Team. If there are people who can overthrow a fascist dictatorship and build something marginally less lovely in its place, then the Succession Wars have stakes, the protagonists can care about things, and the setting has a heart. There's still Option B) "I'm only in it for the C-Bills," and that becomes a more interesting choice if there's something like a sincere heroic tryhard goodguy to contrast it against. Also the painted cutscenes are cool and thematic as hell.
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Emy posted:Notably, the PPC++ with the damage bonus is 1 point shy of being able to dome an assault mech, as is an un-bonused AC/10. The only weapons that can oneshot assault heads are the Gauss Rifle, AC/20, and the damage-bonused AC/10+ and AC/10++. Which is a welcome change of pace from what I've seen of the TT rules, where weapons capable of blowing out the head in one shot go from exceedingly rare and dangerous to outright prolific as the tech progresses. Hopefully any future Battletech games/expansions/whatever will shy away from mimicking that trend as tech advances.
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Clan PPCs being able to headcap is stupid, because they have no downsides. You struggle to put more than one headcapper on a mech in 3025 and it will be short range, ammo limted and run hot. With gauss rifles you can maybe fit two in one mech and the short range disadvantage is gone. Then comes Clantech and Double Heatsinks, and suddenly you can throw unlimited ammo, ultra-long range, no minimum range headcappers everywhere and heavier mechs can easily mount 2 or 3. Damage output goes up dramatically but armor does not.
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DatonKallandor posted:Then comes Clantech and Double Heatsinks, and suddenly you can throw unlimited ammo, ultra-long range, no minimum range headcappers everywhere and heavier mechs can easily mount 2 or 3. Damage output goes up dramatically but armor does not. Making the Tabletop game play faster was sort-of the point.
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:poo poo there goes my dream But...just maybe, we can be close friends? Maybe more? 
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IthilionTheBrave posted:Which is a welcome change of pace from what I've seen of the TT rules, where weapons capable of blowing out the head in one shot go from exceedingly rare and dangerous to outright prolific as the tech progresses. Hopefully any future Battletech games/expansions/whatever will shy away from mimicking that trend as tech advances.
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