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Adder Moray posted:She just needs to amend it to I mean it kinda calls into question how selfless she was being, and whether the casualties of the war were even necessary. Neither of them realized how much fallout there would be.
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Satchel and Trunk posted:Yeah idgi either. The song is about Greg having a hard time after he changed his name to be a rock (and roller), he enjoys the ride, but he knows it's going to burn him out eventually.
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May 12, 2018 02:52
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EoRaptor posted:Ludicrous theory: The chest contains a never 'activated' 'pink' pearl. The Adventures of Pearl and Pearl I would watch the hell out of.
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May 12, 2018 03:02
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So Math posted:The song is about Greg having a hard time after he changed his name to be a rock (and roller), he enjoys the ride, but he knows it's going to burn him out eventually. I love it.
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May 12, 2018 03:08
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I'm on vacation so I didn't know these episodes were coming. God drat this has been great, super pumped for the fallout from these revelations and the inevitable jasperedemtiongregnancy.
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May 12, 2018 03:32
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Don't know if Steven's issues with his mom are getting resolved or will get much worse. After Jailbreak when he went on a drive with the cool kids, he didn't know what to make of himself. Now he knows, but at the same time he doesn't know what he should be doing.
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May 12, 2018 03:42
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Now that I'm caught up I wanna know what was in the leaked spoiler clip from last week and can't find even a description of it. What scene was it?
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May 12, 2018 03:50
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LividLiquid posted:Can you elaborate? I see a bunch of diamonds in the art that might foreshadow Rose. Is that it? The first verse of "Like a Comet" is about Greg (De Mayo) feeling unappreciated. So he decides to leave his figurative home among the stars and start a new life. The second, third, and fourth verses touch on the same points: he enjoys the accolades people give him, his new life is harder, he's satisfied with his life, and he's sure he made the right decision. The fifth and sixth verse has him plummeting towards Earth: he has a lot more he wants to do but he doesn't see any other choice but to follow the trajectory he's on until he crashes.
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RandomPauI posted:The first verse of "Like a Comet" is about Greg (De Mayo) feeling unappreciated. So he decides to leave his figurative home among the stars and start a new life. Followed immediately by the only person being there to even hear it being Rose.
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May 12, 2018 04:29
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RandomPauI posted:The first verse of "Like a Comet" is about Greg (De Mayo) feeling unappreciated. So he decides to leave his figurative home among the stars and start a new life. nine-gear crow posted:Followed immediately by the only person being there to even hear it being Rose.
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May 12, 2018 04:38
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LividLiquid posted:Oh, man. So Steven Quartz Universe is neither a Quartz nor a Universe, and now I think a big part of going forward will him accepting, "No. I'm a Quartz. And a Universe," in a bit of trans-alluding "you're not what your family tree says you are," since both of his parents changed their names to get away from that. I'm convinced that Gem Harvest (the thanksgiving episode) is meant to be a microcosm of the whole series. To start with, "Andy Demayo" is a phonetic anagram of "A Diamond". The reading below appears significant if you are willing to read "Demayo" as interchangeable with "Diamond". The episode starts off with conflict between our gems and Andy. It's revealed that Steven's father has kept him in the dark about his true identity - Greg (and therefore Steven) is actually a Demayo by birth, whereas Universe is an aspirational assumed identity. The Demayos, it turns out, are a family of wealthy, skyfaring, landowners. Ideologically, they are privileged and conservative, which drives a wedge between them and the freedom-loving Greg, who is seen as a rebellious hippie. But the important part is how the episode ends. They could beat Andy up, they could drive him off, but that's not Steven's way. Peace and love and reconciliation are what's important. It was never going to be about beating the Demayos. And then there's a wedding? With cake?
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May 12, 2018 04:41
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Gaebril posted:I'm convinced that Gem Harvest (the thanksgiving episode) is meant to be a microcosm of the whole series. "Microcosm" is taking it too far because there's a lot more going on that matters that isn't part of this reading, but I like it.
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May 12, 2018 05:12
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So...Rose hears the backstory of Greg’s on-stage persona and identifies with him in that moment. It’s cute for what seemed to be a space-themed but otherwise sort of bog standard rock song about living the hard and fast life of a rock star until you burn out from it.
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May 12, 2018 05:20
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Unmature posted:Now that I'm caught up I wanna know what was in the leaked spoiler clip from last week and can't find even a description of it. What scene was it? That clip is still from a future episode and still contains massive spoilers. Having seen the clip myself, it wouldn't surprise me if it was from the last scene of the season finale.
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May 12, 2018 05:26
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I'm going to call at least one song for the season finale.
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May 12, 2018 05:29
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Yellow Diamond: We've come to this pathetic little planet Earth to find and destroy whoever killed Pink Diamond! Where are they?! *Pearl slowly points to Greg without a word*
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May 12, 2018 06:27
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Funky Valentine posted:Yellow Diamond: We've come to this pathetic little planet Earth to find and destroy whoever killed Pink Diamond! Where are they?! Two years later Yellow Steven is born.
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May 12, 2018 06:35
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RandomPauI posted:I'm going to call at least one song for the season finale. I hope the finale is a rock opera. Hell, you could probably make a rock opera out of the story of Pink Diamond.
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May 12, 2018 07:06
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I hope the finale is a rock opera. No, finale should be a Estelle cover of Born This Way, or some other gay bar staple.
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May 12, 2018 07:13
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Mr.Radar posted:That clip is still from a future episode and still contains massive spoilers. Having seen the clip myself, it wouldn't surprise me if it was from the last scene of the season finale. Oh man they really did gently caress up. I've heard the finale thing but thought it would still be from the most recent episode.
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May 12, 2018 07:59
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Unmature posted:Oh man they really did gently caress up. I've heard the finale thing but thought it would still be from the most recent episode. It's really annoying, I thought that they'd got past the leaking. Still, something I'm still hoping for (although I am aware some are hoping at least one villain won't be befriended) is if Blue Diamond finally chills out after her arcs are complete, she has a long overdue conversation with Garnet. Those two really need to hash things out after the mess the first time they interacted. If it's anyone's fault Blue lost her Sapphire, it's only her own. Like Yellow with her Peridot, the phrase "Hey idiot! well done radicalising your girls!" comes to mind. I'm actually curious if in the aftermath BD regretted that moment at all, even if it's just from missing having a Sapphire at all.
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May 12, 2018 08:34
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Hard to say; it's clear that Gems are meant to be expendable and easily replaceable, and that the Diamonds likely really don't give a poo poo about a Gem who runs off on the job to live in some other corner of the galaxy. (though they may have changed that policy given there's kill-on-sight drones roaming the abandoned lower reaches of Homeworld where the unwanted Gems live. Possibly after the Crystal Gem rebellion they had some realisation how they're literally mass-producing malcontents, though clearly their policies haven't been effective) Probably depends on rarity, and it's specifically mentioned Sapphires are rare, aristocratic gems, and that Blue specifically called out that Sapphire for this mission. Peridots are noted specifically to be particularly low on the totem pole. If one won't behave, you can get another that will. Speaking of Peridot; that modern Gems apparently are weaker and lack special powers or shapeshifting ability, and use technology to compensate, may be partly a deliberate policy so that defectors are weaker when cut off from Homeworld support.
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May 12, 2018 08:55
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after some thought, the only thing I don't like about the PD reveal is that it seems like a stretch that she'd be able to hide her nature from the gems she fused with, since I assume that she fused with Garnet at some point (the temple statue seems to be of the fusion of Rose + Garnet + Pearl, at least)
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May 12, 2018 09:00
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I'm curious if Pink ever tried to question why fusion was outlawed, since as Rose she was clearly into the idea. Of course she probably heard a lot about how dangerous it can be letting Gems fuse willy-nilly and that when doing so they aren't doing their job, but it's likely that Pink noticed that Fusions like that are actually more adept at doing both jobs while also being good at new things. Of course she couldn't allow fusions in her court directly, but she encouraged the rebels to play with the idea and experiment. Maybe before she got desperate she was trying to build a Case.
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May 12, 2018 09:18
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Incidentally, Joe Johnston confirmed on his tumblr that Pearl was made directly for Rose, and the whole 'no choice but to follow direct orders' thing only applies to Pearls and the person they were specifically designed and created for.
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May 12, 2018 10:13
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man i just caught up on like, the past year of episodes (from lion 4 to what's current) and this show still owns i got spoiled on them finally pulling the trigger on RQ = PD and i was skeptical but drat they pulled it off in a real satisfying way
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May 12, 2018 10:53
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Theory: the writers still haven't figured out what's in the chest. They just put it there to put something interesting in later when they come up with an idea.
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May 12, 2018 11:26
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TheChirurgeon posted:after some thought, the only thing I don't like about the PD reveal is that it seems like a stretch that she'd be able to hide her nature from the gems she fused with, since I assume that she fused with Garnet at some point (the temple statue seems to be of the fusion of Rose + Garnet + Pearl, at least) We literally had an episode about how fusions don't automatically know everything the components know, even when it includes motivations for fusing. BioEnchanted posted:I'm curious if Pink ever tried to question why fusion was outlawed, since as Rose she was clearly into the idea. Of course she probably heard a lot about how dangerous it can be letting Gems fuse willy-nilly and that when doing so they aren't doing their job, but it's likely that Pink noticed that Fusions like that are actually more adept at doing both jobs while also being good at new things. Of course she couldn't allow fusions in her court directly, but she encouraged the rebels to play with the idea and experiment. Maybe before she got desperate she was trying to build a Case. IIRC Homeworld accepts fusion only as a battle technique if Peridot's reaction is anything to go by, and it's likely that cross-caste fusion is a crime because it involves acting waaay above/below your station by necessity. (note that BD in the flashback ordered the Ruby crushed, not the Sapphire) That it can be such a threat to Homeworld's strict heirarchy is probably why it's so regulated.
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May 12, 2018 11:31
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Has the meaning of Love Like You changed?
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Ghost Leviathan posted:We literally had an episode about how fusions don't automatically know everything the components know, even when it includes motivations for fusing. Yeah this. Also Pink Diamond got poofed before reforming as Rose Quartz so that was presumably her natural form inside fusions and such, she wasn't shapeshifting. Did we ever see Rose in other costumes? If she'd gotten poofed and reformed again at some point with people around the diamond sillhouette probably could've been pretty noticeable
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Two years later Yellow Steven is born. We all know the real endgame is Greg impregnating all Gems Ghost Leviathan posted:Hard to say; it's clear that Gems are meant to be expendable and easily replaceable, and that the Diamonds likely really don't give a poo poo about a Gem who runs off on the job to live in some other corner of the galaxy. (though they may have changed that policy given there's kill-on-sight drones roaming the abandoned lower reaches of Homeworld where the unwanted Gems live. Possibly after the Crystal Gem rebellion they had some realisation how they're literally mass-producing malcontents, though clearly their policies haven't been effective) Probably depends on rarity, and it's specifically mentioned Sapphires are rare, aristocratic gems, and that Blue specifically called out that Sapphire for this mission. Peridots are noted specifically to be particularly low on the totem pole. If one won't behave, you can get another that will. I still think the whole "Era 2 Gems can't shapeshift" thing is going to end up being a lie, especially since it presents a bit of a logic hole regarding how Gems work RandomPauI posted:Has the meaning of Love Like You changed? Seems to me it just highlights Rose's self loathing even more than it did prior to the Pink Diamond reveal
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That makes sense.
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Fusions don't immediately know everything but when they fuse/unfuse you can see their gems floating around. Itd be a hell of a trick to always keep your diamond pointed away from onlookers, and other fused gems. Also means Rose never got proofed, but that's more plausible
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TheChirurgeon posted:Fusions don't immediately know everything but when they fuse/unfuse you can see their gems floating around. Itd be a hell of a trick to always keep your diamond pointed away from onlookers, and other fused gems. It's also possible that someone did see her full gem, but since she already had powers no other Rose Quartz had, they just wrote it off as her being some kind of weird defective gem.
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[quote="TheChirurgeon" post=""484025446"] Also means Rose never got proofed, but that's more plausible [/quote] Why do you think Pearl was so rabid about throwing herself between Rose and every single tough Jasper on the battlefield?
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Love Like You will probably never have a totally correct answer with regards to who it's meant for and who is singing. The song matches multiple events, people and relationships and it's written in a way that it connects with all of them.
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