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Wheat Loaf posted:I read some New Teen Titans stuff I've had on my shelf for a while and in their first ever crossover with the Outsiders there's a scene where Halo's showing Raven her room saying, "This is my room! And this is all my stuff!" and Raven replies, "Like you, it is full of joy and laughter," while her thought bubble says, "Two things my EVIL father, the demon TRIGON THE TERRIBLE, never allowed ME to have!" Yeah, the 80s Teen Titans is really melodramatic.
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Roth posted:Raven's original portrayal was as new age hippie until the cartoon. Goths are modern hippies.
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May 12, 2018 18:08
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prefect posted:Goths are modern hippies. Goths tend to not smell like unwashed rear end in a top hat.
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May 12, 2018 18:17
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Rhyno posted:Goths tend to not smell like unwashed rear end in a top hat. Yeah they do, that's why we tried to keep them out.
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May 12, 2018 18:31
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May 12, 2018 18:33
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Roth posted:Yeah, the 80s Teen Titans is really melodramatic. Oh, I love it for how overwrought it is, particularly how Wally West seems to hate the rest of the team. Do you remember the one where Red Star shows up and they're going, "You American imperialist!" / "You Soviet oppressor!" and eventually Robin tells him to knock it off and Wally goes full-on right-wing persecution complex and whinges about how Robin and Donna Troy are East coast liberals who don't respect him because he's a mid-western conservative?
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May 12, 2018 18:48
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ImpAtom posted:Yes, of course, it was just a joke because his version is rather famous. Thank god! Sorry for doubting you. Carry on.
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May 12, 2018 19:28
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Wheat Loaf posted:Oh, I love it for how overwrought it is, particularly how Wally West seems to hate the rest of the team. Do you remember the one where Red Star shows up and they're going, "You American imperialist!" / "You Soviet oppressor!" and eventually Robin tells him to knock it off and Wally goes full-on right-wing persecution complex and whinges about how Robin and Donna Troy are East coast liberals who don't respect him because he's a mid-western conservative? Ah yes. Gotham and Paradise Island, notorious Blue States.
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May 12, 2018 21:20
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The Question IRL posted:Ah yes. Gotham and Paradise Island, notorious Blue States. Gotham is basically New York isn't it? And Themyscira is hardcore enough about it they don't allow men on their island period. Doesn't really seem like THAT much of a stretch if someone is just looking to make an argument about their own victimhood.
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May 12, 2018 21:27
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The Teen Titans were a bit unusual because they were explicitly based out of New York rather than a fictional city. Kid Flash just didn't go in for their New York values. 
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May 12, 2018 21:37
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Zaodai posted:Gotham is basically New York isn't it? And Themyscira is hardcore enough about it they don't allow men on their island period. Doesn't really seem like THAT much of a stretch if someone is just looking to make an argument about their own victimhood. I always thought Gotham was supposed to be in New Jersey with a dash of 1930’s mobbed up Chicago vibe for good measure. Metropolis was the New York City analog.
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May 12, 2018 21:54
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Proteus Jones posted:I always thought Gotham was supposed to be in New Jersey with a dash of 1930’s mobbed up Chicago vibe for good measure. Metropolis was the New York City analog. Metropolis is New York City during the day, Gotham is NYC at night.
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Proteus Jones posted:I always thought Gotham was supposed to be in New Jersey with a dash of 1930’s mobbed up Chicago vibe for good measure. Metropolis was the New York City analog. Gotham is New York at night, Metropolis is New York in the day. The Nolan films made it more like Chicago, and there's probably some other things too, but there's a ton of stories that make it important that Gotham is on the East coast (every Batman story involving an overseas shipment of something, which is a way more than you'd think).
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May 12, 2018 22:03
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Tasteful Dickpic posted:Are we just gonna leave this one behind? What is this? In order to promote the blu-ray release of that movie, they got a lot of the actors together and filmed a spoof 1970s sci-fi disco music video, with David Hasselhoff in it, and put it on the internet.
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May 12, 2018 22:52
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I thought New York was New York in DC.
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Cabbit posted:I thought New York was New York in DC. Both exist. And Metropolis is alternately based on Cleveland and Toronto according to interviews with Siegel and Shuster back int he day.
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May 12, 2018 23:00
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If I remember correctly, the explanation from JLA/Avengers is that the DC universe has a bunch of extra cities along the east coast and great lakes, as well as more land for them to occupy. That's the most comic books answer, so it must be true.
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May 12, 2018 23:02
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Bongo Bill posted:If I remember correctly, the explanation from JLA/Avengers is that the DC universe has a bunch of extra cities along the east coast and great lakes, as well as more land for them to occupy. How does that work? Did the United states seize the southeastern part of Canada?
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May 12, 2018 23:07
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prefect posted:Metropolis is New York City during the day, Gotham is NYC at night. Metropolis is New York if it votes Republican, Gotham is New York if it votes Democrat.
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May 12, 2018 23:08
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I thought DCU earth was just plain bigger than regular earth. There's extra countries too (and not all of them are submerged in the oceans!).
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May 12, 2018 23:09
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The planet is larger. It's also how they fit in the extra countries when they need to.
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May 12, 2018 23:09
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No, the DC Earth is just bigger than Marvel Earth because reasons. I can buy a place like Gotham being blue because that's most major cities.
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May 12, 2018 23:10
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cant cook creole bream posted:How does that work? Did the United states seize the southeastern part of Canada? It's just bigger. It's one of those things you don't want to think about too much. At some point in one of the Marvel DC crossovers it's mentioned that the Earth in DC is physically larger than the Earth in Marvel.
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May 12, 2018 23:10
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We all said it, so it's gotta be true.
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May 12, 2018 23:11
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goatface posted:We all said it, so it's gotta be true. Imagine how much longer a New York to Seattle flight (or vice versa) must take.
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May 12, 2018 23:14
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Skwirl posted:Imagine how much longer a New York to Seattle flight (or vice versa) must take. They have the Speed Force over there.
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May 12, 2018 23:16
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Roth posted:No, the DC Earth is just bigger than Marvel Earth because reasons. I think it's probably easier to skew Gotham as being red because we usually see it through the eyes of Batman, who's absolutely a Republican.
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May 12, 2018 23:17
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Cleretic posted:I think it's probably easier to skew Gotham as being red because we usually see it through the eyes of Batman, who's absolutely a Republican. Nah, Bruce is a massive bleeding heart who votes Dem because of his views on the death penalty.
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Roth posted:Nah, Bruce is a massive bleeding heart who votes Dem because of his views on the death penalty. Batman's an incredibly wealthy white guy who feels the best solution to crime is physical assault, and who frequently espouses authoritarian ideals. Dude couldn't be more right-leaning if he was wearing a MAGA hat and spouting off about Benghazi.
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May 12, 2018 23:36
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I'd probably start voting more conservatively if being robbed/held hostage/killed by a super villain was real thing that could realistically happen at any time.
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May 12, 2018 23:38
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prefect posted:They have the Speed Force over there. Airplanes don't.
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Can Marvel just make a month where Sabretooth is inexplicably named leader of every team? Please?   And of course it works out about as well as you'd expect. 
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GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:I'd probably start voting more conservatively if being robbed/held hostage/killed by a super villain was real thing that could realistically happen at any time. That doesn't match with any voting patterns in America at all. When's the last time Chicago or Baltimore had a republican mayor?
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Skwirl posted:It's just bigger. It's one of those things you don't want to think about too much. At some point in one of the Marvel DC crossovers it's mentioned that the Earth in DC is physically larger than the Earth in Marvel. (Ah flashbacks to my battle board days.) This was argued back in the day whether the Marvel Earth was smaller than the DC Earth. It's a line that comes up in JLAvengers. They don't say that the DC Earth is bigger. Just that they aren't the exact same size. The implication being that DC America and Marvel America don't perfectly overlap because of extra cities. Then there would be Marvel Europe and DC Europe where they have different countries so it wouldn't perfectly map. I do remember someone arguing that meant DC had to be larger because "DC Earth has extra cities while Marvel Earth has extra countries. And cities are bigger than countries."
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May 12, 2018 23:48
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Skwirl posted:That doesn't match with any voting patterns in America at all. When's the last time Chicago or Baltimore had a republican mayor? I can't speak for Chicago, but I know Baltimore's was before I was born. Wikipedia has it at 1967, so WELL before I was born.
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May 12, 2018 23:50
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Skwirl posted:That doesn't match with any voting patterns in America at all. When's the last time Chicago or Baltimore had a republican mayor? I was thinking more along the lines of Bush being re-elected largely on the logic that "he's kept us safe". But let's not turn a dumb joke into a politics derail.
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X-O posted:Can Marvel just make a month where Sabretooth is inexplicably named leader of every team? Please? I know it's such a small thing, but I'm glad to see Omega Red is keeping with his super communist costume and ponytail almost as long as his robo tentacles. I guess when you are frozen ten times as often as Captain America, your fashion sense doesn't have much time to change.
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Section Z posted:I know it's such a small thing, but I'm glad to see Omega Red is keeping with his super communist costume and ponytail almost as long as his robo tentacles. And fashion is cyclical. He's been around enough to know as soon as he changes his look - BAM - Commie Octopus is going to be the new hotness. He's biding his time.
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Gotham always seemed like an amalgam of every dying passed-over northeastern city suffering from deindustrialization. It's Trenton and Camden and Baltimore and Atlantic City, with echoes of Youngstown and Detroit and Gary. Metropolis is everything that's good about New York City, sparkling in the bright sunshine. It's Broadway and the fashion industry and the publishing industry and all the museums and Central Park and famous skyscrapers and the skating rink at Rockefeller Center and Columbia University and NYU and colorful ethnic neighborhoods with tons of excellent restaurants and conventions and tourists and the constant hum of new construction.
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FMguru posted:Gotham always seemed like an amalgam of every dying passed-over northeastern city suffering from deindustrialization. It's Trenton and Camden and Baltimore and Atlantic City, with echoes of Youngstown and Detroit and Gary. Yeah. Now, if only there was a rich guy who had enough clout and pull to get his city back on its feet, who had a major corporation backing him. Man, he could create jobs with excellent security for every single citizen in his city. Guy like that could be a hero.
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