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Blindeye
Sep 22, 2006

I can't believe I kissed you!
As a person whose specialty is in natural phenomena hazards mitigation, if I were building to avoid natural disasters, the upper midwest and inland New England have the lowest earthquake hazards, are sheltered from coastal storms, and are not as high a risk of forest fires due to the available moisture and large amount of farm development.

There is a non-negligible tornado hazard but it is modest overall and the snow hazard isn't a huge risk to life and limb.

Basically what I'm saying is if you want to build a high hazard thing like a nuclear power plant or refinery, places like Michigan, Upstate New York, etc. are about the best in the country.

Idaho and NM have been mentioned but both have risks of flash floods, earthquakes, or even volcanoes (depending) as well as forest fires like the one that destroyed Bandelier National Monument in Santa Fe.

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FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Rev. Bleech_ posted:

As someone in the eastern US who felt the 2011 earthquake, has spotted and called in several tornadoes (wtf? tornadoes don't give a poo poo if it's flat or not), remembers the gigantic 1986 forest fire that blew smoke all the way to Miami, and witnessed two 500-year floods in the last 20 years, goddamn is this wrong.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008


Mitch McConnell.

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

PainterofCrap posted:

US East Coast barrier islands.

My sister's ex's family has a house on Long Beach Island, NJ. It has a basement.

Granted, it was built in the 1920s, but, drat, that takes balls.

It's fine, every time something goes wrong, the government pitches in to rebuild all of the million dollar vacation homes.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



Yeah, gently caress the National Flood Insurance Program.

One of the happiest days in my wife's career was when her NFIP licensing lapsed. I've somehow managed to avoid getting sucked into that particular tar-pit over the years.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Blindeye posted:

As a person whose specialty is in natural phenomena hazards mitigation, if I were building to avoid natural disasters, the upper midwest and inland New England have the lowest earthquake hazards, are sheltered from coastal storms, and are not as high a risk of forest fires due to the available moisture and large amount of farm development.

There is a non-negligible tornado hazard but it is modest overall and the snow hazard isn't a huge risk to life and limb.

Basically what I'm saying is if you want to build a high hazard thing like a nuclear power plant or refinery, places like Michigan, Upstate New York, etc. are about the best in the country.

Idaho and NM have been mentioned but both have risks of flash floods, earthquakes, or even volcanoes (depending) as well as forest fires like the one that destroyed Bandelier National Monument in Santa Fe.

That sounds like an interesting job to be honest!

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Doesn't New England get slammed by bitchin' hurricanes from time to time?

Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

Skippy McPants posted:

Doesn't New England get slammed by bitchin' hurricanes from time to time?

You call them different things if they aren't from the Caribbean, even if they are just as powerful. Hurricane's CAN get there but are pretty burnt out by then.

Typhoon in Pacific. Nor'easter of it comes from the arctic at new england.

North east. Winds are named from where the come from of course.

Moto42
Jul 14, 2006

:dukedog:

Blindeye posted:

As a person whose specialty is in supernatural phenomena hazards mitigation, if I were building to avoid natural disasters, the upper midwest and inland New England have the lowest earthquake hazards, are sheltered from coastal storms, and are not as high a risk of forest fires due to the available moisture and large amount of farm development.<snip>
So, recent events notwithstanding, how would Houston and the rest of the Gulf Coast measure up as 'places to put things we don't want distastered'?

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

thekeeshman posted:

Honestly most of the eastern US is pretty safe as long as you're not right on the coast. No fault lines or volcanoes, not flat enough for tornadoes, too wet for big forest fires, not a whole lot of flood plains around either. I'm in PA and the worst we ever see is a large snowfall, but even then it's nothing compared to what places farther north get.

Do you mean specific areas like the north east or in the mountains somewhere? Because tornadoes gently caress the southeast up all the time.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Seventy‐five percent of the planet’s tornadoes touch down in the United States.

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


Skippy McPants posted:

Doesn't New England get slammed by bitchin' hurricanes from time to time?
Like maybe once a decade here in CT you'll see something that managed to stay Cat 1 or 2, but it'll be knocked down to tropical storm or weaker shortly afterwards and is basically only a risk right on the coast or in a flood zone by a river or something if you're inland. There's a small tornado risk too like everywhere else on the continent east of the rockies but that's even rarer than the hurricanes. Snow's a lot more frequent, but as noted already, it's usually just more a few days annoyance and a lot of obnoxious shoveling rather than something that actually damages health or property.

There's a lot to dislike about the northeast but the risk of being wiped off the map because the earth hates you is at least basically non-existent. Well, unless you're on Long Island but who cares about them. :v:

See More Butts
Dec 29, 2004



Three-Phase posted:

To be fair if I was driving through and saw this I would probably get out of the car too. Or at least reach through the window and playfully boop them on their cute little noses. :3:

https://youtu.be/0tmCIsSpvC8

(I’d be rushed to the emergency room with chewed-up fingers screaming “AAHHHGH! I WOULD DO IT AGAIN IF I HAD THE CHANCE!”)

That thing sounds like Christopher Walken making meow noises.

FUCK SNEEP
Apr 21, 2007




Bip Roberts posted:

Besides earthquakes, tsunamis, and the extremely real risk that Mt Rainier just straight up wipes Tacoma off the map.

The sulfur smell will be a nice improvement.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
https://i.imgur.com/L2TxJRF.mp4

Veni Vidi Ameche!
Nov 2, 2017

by Fluffdaddy

This has to be a commercial, right?

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


Farmdizzle posted:

Except for, you know, the whole Cascadia Subduction Zone. At some point the area will get hit again by an earthquake in the 8 to 9 magnitude range (something the San Andreas and other slip-strike faults aren't capable of approaching). FEMA has basically said that if that happens pretty much everything west of I-5 will be turbofucked. It'll make Katrina look like a picnic.

And we have volcanoes. Some of Tacoma's suburbs are built on top of old pyroclastic flows. Mount Rainier is the most heavily glaciated peak in the Lower 48, and if/when it blows you can kiss places like Tenino and a big chunk of Puyallup goodbye.

But we do have a mild climate, so that's nice.

Yuuuuuup. I had the pleasure of overhearing some Disaster Preparedness meetings and, uh, yeah. If you're on the coast/West of the Coast Range, you're basically on your own for the duration as every road and pass through the mountains will be blocked for the foreseeable future. The Yaquina Bay bridge will collapse in the quake, trapping any CG vessels at Newport station in the bay until the tsunami hits. The Seaside CG station helipad is on liquifiable soils and will basically sink any choppers on-site when the quake hits, etc. Any notable airfields on the coast are either in the flood zone or likely to be buckled beyond use by the quake, so all aid will be flying into Portland/Salem/Other I-5 trunk points and radiating out from there.

The farther you are from I-5? The bigger emergency kit you should have.

Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

Arrath posted:

Yuuuuuup. I had the pleasure of overhearing some Disaster Preparedness meetings and, uh, yeah. If you're on the coast/West of the Coast Range, you're basically on your own for the duration as every road and pass through the mountains will be blocked for the foreseeable future. The Yaquina Bay bridge will collapse in the quake, trapping any CG vessels at Newport station in the bay until the tsunami hits. The Seaside CG station helipad is on liquifiable soils and will basically sink any choppers on-site when the quake hits, etc. Any notable airfields on the coast are either in the flood zone or likely to be buckled beyond use by the quake, so all aid will be flying into Portland/Salem/Other I-5 trunk points and radiating out from there.

The farther you are from I-5? The bigger emergency kit you should have.

Some of us live up a hill on the peninsula and have sufficient supplies for the estimate 10 days without power. Thanks.

if it's in winter it will be rough

Mtthnsly
Jan 19, 2009

Let's all get fucked up and make fun of internet weirdos! Including ourselves.
Tortured By Flan
How screwed is Puyallup are we safer since we're farther east?

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo
For the duration? If the subduction zone goes chunks of it'll be part of the Pacific, the ghost forest didn't move there on its own

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008







Kind of suspicious that the bus only starts driving when the car starts to roll.

Samopsa
Nov 9, 2009

Krijgt geen speciaal kerstdiner!

spankmeister posted:

Kind of suspicious that the bus only starts driving when the car starts to roll.

here's a large version https://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/6687739/edaed136/blondje_vergeet_wat_aan_te_trekken.html
If look at it full-screen you can clearly spot the editing around the car.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Samopsa posted:

here's a large version https://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/6687739/edaed136/blondje_vergeet_wat_aan_te_trekken.html
If look at it full-screen you can clearly spot the editing around the car.

I loving hate Dumpert. That title is gross.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

oohhboy posted:

I hassle my friends in Australia once in a while asking them how much of the country in on fire and how close it is to their house. Everybody is aware and do what they can, so no idiots, just have a laugh and rebuild.

Yeah the thing about Australia is that for most of the land mass there's zero measurable population:


The people living in the coastal suburban zones are pretty much safe from all the big bushfires, it's really only those areas where the population spreads inland that there's much danger of large numbers of people getting caught in catastrophic fires and those communities will be very aware of the danger and will all have emergency plans in place. Even then, the state of Victoria had a simultaneous outbreak of over 400 fires back in '09 during an extreme heatwave which resulted in 173 deaths, the worst bushfire disaster in our recorded history.

Australia's worst natural disasters (not counting historical flu pandemics or outbreaks of plague) are actually heatwaves. There's usually more deaths attributed to the heatwaves that lead to bushfires than the fires themselves: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disasters_in_Australia_by_death_toll

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:

This has to be a commercial, right?



yeah, it seems a bit pat, but I want to believe.

MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010

by sebmojo

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Yeah the thing about Australia is that for most of the land mass there's zero measurable population:



AUSTRAL-ICELAND Schengen Area now!

Y'all could use the genetic injection and share a "only settle the coast, ignore the middle" sensibility.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

MisterOblivious posted:

AUSTRAL-ICELAND Schengen Area now!

Y'all could use the genetic injection and share a "only settle the coast, ignore the middle" sensibility.

I would absolutely welcome this. Iceland has actual active geology, as opposed to Australia, which has effective none.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012



Apparently the car just hit a speedbump.

The article also said that somehow the driver managed to steer the car off the road and into this parking spot after this happened.

Blindeye
Sep 22, 2006

I can't believe I kissed you!

Moto42 posted:

So, recent events notwithstanding, how would Houston and the rest of the Gulf Coast measure up as 'places to put things we don't want distastered'?

The gulf coast is always going to have a huge hurricane risk. Remember Galveston used to be the biggest city in Texas before it was completely destroyed.

Flash floods and Tornadoes are also recurring events.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Carbon dioxide posted:



Apparently the car just hit a speedbump.

The article also said that somehow the driver managed to steer the car off the road and into this parking spot after this happened.

Yup; it’s handicapped.

Phuzun
Jul 4, 2007

Carbon dioxide posted:



Apparently the car just hit a speedbump.

The article also said that somehow the driver managed to steer the car off the road and into this parking spot after this happened.

Front wheel drive, just dragging the rear end and making sure the car repair is even worse (if not a write off).

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Poorly maintained cars from Poland + speedbumps every 10 meters in Holland

Jake Mustache
Feb 7, 2017




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16KegHhFIEU

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable
The Delaware Valley is so disaster free. Occasionally we'll get an exciting F1 tornado that puffs some trees or a Cat 1-3 hurricane bounce off the coast and shits up all the millionaire beach houses that we're supposed to cry about. We don't get earthquakes, snow is generally restrained to below a foot of accumulation, flooding is at best only a concern for people that live right up on a low lying river, what's a wild fire, heat waves only reach risk levels for elderly/babies. The only threat we really have to worry about is the march of the sea as climate change raises the ocean drives us to the Appalachians. Oh also all the high cancer rates that is surely independent from the waste dumped in the Delaware river.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Phuzun posted:

Front wheel drive, just dragging the rear end and making sure the car repair is even worse (if not a write off).

Looks like Jesus took the wheels.

Relentless
Sep 22, 2007

It's a perfect day for some mayhem!


Mtthnsly posted:

How screwed is Puyallup are we safer since we're farther east?

Some researcher from UW ran 50 predictions.

Some of them look at the damage Portland will sustain if the quake is located in downtown Seattle, sooooooo yeah you're screwed. Pretty much everything east of the pass is.

Unless it isn't. Earthquakes can be super weird. There's a spot on the peninsula that could do more damage to Japan/Asia than Seattle due to sending the majority of the energy into the ocean.

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit
Seattle could fall into the ocean and nothing of value be lost. Everyone keeps harping on the San Adreas fault and all that poo poo, and no one ever looks at the New Madrid fault

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Johnny Aztec posted:

Seattle could fall into the ocean and nothing of value be lost. Everyone keeps harping on the San Adreas fault and all that poo poo, and no one ever looks at the New Madrid fault

The what? Oh, there's a fault line in the midwest. Huh. Looks real unlikely to cause a secondary disaster due to tsunami tho.



There aren't even any cities in the red zone. If the Big One hits dozens could be killed!

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Conveniently located along state borders.

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FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


The last major New Madrid quake (a 7.5-8.0 in 1812) caused extensive damage in St Louis (population ~1400).

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