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cloudchamber
Aug 6, 2010

You know what the Ukraine is? It's a sitting duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak. It's feeble. I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine
That looks pretty neat. I've been reading through the book Richard Overy just released on the birth of the RAF for its centenerary. Looks mainly at the politis of creating a national air force. A lot of people seem to have been of the conviction that the country would never need one.

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MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy
Is there something akin to Selwyn Raab's Five Families but that covers Yakuza?

Quandary
Jan 29, 2008

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Seconding this audiobook recommendation. Learned a ton.

Currently listening to “The Path Between the Seas” about the Panama Canal. Good stuff.

I loved that book - so much insane poo poo went on to make the canal what it was, and the characters are largely absurd.

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate

StrixNebulosa posted:

Hey, this post sold me on checking out the first volume and drat, this is some fine writing and a lot of information. I've now got a strong image of what France was like to govern and live in in 1328 just from the first chapter, and it's surprisingly easy to read? For once, a history book that is dense and actually interesting instead of being dry.

Which series is this?

cloudchamber
Aug 6, 2010

You know what the Ukraine is? It's a sitting duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak. It's feeble. I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine

sbaldrick posted:

Which series is this?

First quote in that thread is this:

Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:

Has anyone read The Hundred Years War series by Jonathan Sumption? Got a good recommendation on it, looking for any other books around the 1300-1500 european era

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

sbaldrick posted:

Which series is this?

The Hundred Years War series by Jonathan Sumption, just to confirm what cloudchamber said. Tis good!

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



I'm reading Six Days of War and I'm looking for more 1920-80s middle east history. Bio's, single country history's, wars I'll take anything good.

CountFosco
Jan 9, 2012

Welcome back to the Liturgigoon thread, friend.

clean ayers act posted:

Just finished Red Famine and while there isn't much more to be said in praise of the book than what's out in the press, I was really blown away by the scope of the Soviet responsibility that Applebaum outlines. There's also some interesting discussion about what constitutes "genocide" and the political implications for modern day Ukraine.

I do not trust Anne Applebaum and would take anything she says with a pinch of salt. She's deeply embedded in the military-industrial complex and looks at things from a highly biased perspective. She's similar to Zbigniew Brzezinski in that she's a Polish ex-pat in America who takes her (to some extent justified) fear of Russian expansionism and tries to stir up Russophobia in the United States with it.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
For some reason I follow her on twitter and she is always posting polish stuff so suddenly this all makes sense now.

Samog
Dec 13, 2006
At least I'm not an 07.

ExecuDork posted:

The Sea and Civilization: A Maritime History of the World by Lincoln Paine was pretty good. There's certainly a good long chapter about the Polynesians, and a whole bunch about the Age of Exploration. It covers the whole drat planet from sitting on a log in a river through Panamax.

Related to this, between the oven/stove/cooker thing in a museum I saw here from circa 1930, and a recent discussion in a thread in GWS I've decided I want to know more about how people cooked at home in previous decades / centuries. I'm struck by how thoroughly standardized today's kitchens are, but there must be a zillion variations on "make food hot" that have been considered "of course this is what we do" for many different cultures. Anybody got any reccs?

Maybe Food: A Culinary History? I've had my eye on it for a while but haven't actually had a chance to read it yet

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

algebra testes posted:

For some reason I follow her on twitter and she is always posting polish stuff so suddenly this all makes sense now.

She is a Polish citizen and is married to a former Polish Defence Minister/Foreign Minister, so she's pretty heavily invested in Polish politics.

JamesWestfall
Mar 29, 2010

Looking for recommendations for books on the Sengoku warring states period in Japan

Bullbar
Apr 18, 2007

The Aristocrats!
Can anybody suggest a good book (or books) about the English civil war?

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Bullbar posted:

Can anybody suggest a good book (or books) about the English civil war?

I haven't read any of these, but I like listening to the Revolutions podcast and it has a bibliography of what he used to prepare for the podcast, so!

quote:

English

Adamson, John. The Noble Revolt: The Overthrow of Charles I. London: Phoenix, 2007.
Clarendon, Earl of. History of the Rebellion: A New Selection. New York: Oxford University Press, 2009.
Gaunt, Peter ed. The English Civil War Essential Readings. Great Britain: Blackwell Publishers, 2000.
Gardiner, S.R. The Fall of the Monarchy of Charles I. 2 Volumes. London: Longmans Green and Co, 1882.
Gardiner, S.R. The Great Civil War. 4 Volumes. London: Longmans Green and Co, 1886.
Hill, Christopher. The Century of Revolution 1603-1714. Great Britain: Sphere, 1962.
Hill, Christopher. The World Turned Upside Down. England: Penguin Books, 1972.
Kenyon, John. The Civil Wars in England. Great Britain: Phoenix, 1988.
Kishlansky, Mark. A Monarchy Transformed 1603-1714. England: Penguin Books, 1997.
Morrill, John ed. Oliver Cromwell and the English Revolution. 1990
Morrill, John. The Nature of the English Revolution. New York: Longman, 1993.
Reid, Stuart. All the King’s Armies. Great Britain: Spellmount, 1998.
Russell, Conrad. The Causes of the English Civil War. Malta: Clarendon Press, 1990.
Russell, Conrad. The Fall of the British Monarchies. New York: Clarendon Press, 1991.
Stone, Lawrence. The Causes of the English Revolution 1529-1642. Great Britain: Routledge, 1972.
Trevelyan, G.M. The English Revolution 1688-1689. New York: Oxford University Press, 1938.
Underdown, David. Revel, Riot and Rebellion. Great Britain: Oxford University Press, 1985.
Wedgewood, C.V. The King's Peace. 1955. Reprint, New York: Book of the Month Club, 1997.
Wedgewood, C.V. The King's War. 1955. Reprint, New York: Book of the Month Club, 1997.
Woolrych, Austin. Britain in Revolution: 1625-1660. New York: Oxford University Press, 2002.

crazyvanman
Dec 31, 2010

Bullbar posted:

Can anybody suggest a good book (or books) about the English civil war?

Not a big Civil War guy but Trevor Royle's Civil War: The Wars of the Three Kingdoms is a good enough narrative account.

Asilack
Apr 23, 2008

Anyone have any book recommendations on Belarusian history? Looking for anything from the time of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania to the beginning of the Russian Civil War, though anything up to modern Belarus would be welcome too.

Nick of Time
Mar 18, 2007
I'd suggest anything by Svetlana Alexievich. While her books are Russia based, you can easily see her Belarusian ancestry.

cloudchamber
Aug 6, 2010

You know what the Ukraine is? It's a sitting duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak. It's feeble. I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine
Her books can't really be taken as non-fiction either.

See:

https://newrepublic.com/article/135719/witness-tampering

(Not that she isn't worth reading, obviously)

Disinterested
Jun 29, 2011

You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

Bullbar posted:

Can anybody suggest a good book (or books) about the English civil war?

Braddick, Michael J., God’s Fury, England’s Fire: A New History of the English Civil Wars
Braddick, Michael J. (ed.), The Oxford Handbook of the English Revolution (2015)
Gentles, Ian, The English Revolution and the Wars in the Three Kingdoms, 1638-1652
(2007)
Harris, Tim, Rebellion: Britain’s First Stuart Kings, 1567-1642 (2013)
Holmes, Clive, Why was Charles I executed? (2006)
Peacey, Jason (ed.), The Regicides and the Execution of Charles I (2001)
Woolrych, Austin, Britain in Revolution, 1625-1660 (2002)
Worden, Blair, The English Civil Wars, 1640-1660 (2009)

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Looking for recommendations for books on Teddy Roosevelt or MLK Jr. if they have quality audiobooks it would be appreciated.

crazyvanman
Dec 31, 2010
I'm going to be teaching a course that covers Germany from 1919-1963. I'm not at all clued up about anything German post-1945. What are some quick-ish, introductory level things I could read?

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

crazyvanman posted:

I'm going to be teaching a course that covers Germany from 1919-1963. I'm not at all clued up about anything German post-1945. What are some quick-ish, introductory level things I could read?

You may already have this for the earlier part, but I found Eric Weitz's Creating German Communism, 1890-1990: From Popular Protests to Socialist State (Princeton, 1997) to be a very useful exploration of the roots of the GDR's particular brand of communism in earlier German history.

Lewd Mangabey
Jun 2, 2011
"What sort of ape?" asked Stephen.
"A damned ill-conditioned sort of an ape. It had a can of ale at every pot-house on the road, and is reeling drunk. It has been offering itself to Babbington."

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Looking for recommendations for books on Teddy Roosevelt or MLK Jr. if they have quality audiobooks it would be appreciated.

The Edmund Morris Roosevelt trilogy is quite readable and informative. Roosevelt is one of the American presidents who was as interesting before he was president than during or after, so concentrating on his early life is quite rewarding.

PatMarshall
Apr 6, 2009

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Looking for recommendations for books on Teddy Roosevelt or MLK Jr. if they have quality audiobooks it would be appreciated.

Taylor Branch's three volume biography of King is fantastic (start with Parting the Waters). Looks like there is an audiobook version as well.

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe
I'm after a book about really early civilisations. I don't have a specific place in the world in mind, just the earlier the better. I know "civilisations" is a vague word, but I guess peoples who had something resembling cities, agriculture etc. An easy to read history of the cities by the Euphrates maybe?

CountFosco
Jan 9, 2012

Welcome back to the Liturgigoon thread, friend.
I remember quite liking this book about Ancient Egypt:
https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Fall-Ancient-Egypt/dp/0553384902
Could be useful.

9-Volt Assault
Jan 27, 2007

Beter twee tetten in de hand dan tien op de vlucht.

Chas McGill posted:

I'm after a book about really early civilisations. I don't have a specific place in the world in mind, just the earlier the better. I know "civilisations" is a vague word, but I guess peoples who had something resembling cities, agriculture etc. An easy to read history of the cities by the Euphrates maybe?

Marc Van De Mieroop - A History of the Ancient Near East is good, although perhaps a bit too textbooky?

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Chas McGill posted:

I'm after a book about really early civilisations. I don't have a specific place in the world in mind, just the earlier the better. I know "civilisations" is a vague word, but I guess peoples who had something resembling cities, agriculture etc. An easy to read history of the cities by the Euphrates maybe?

I haven't actually read it, but I flipped through Eric Cline's 1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed once and it looked really interesting, and I hope to return to it someday.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


vyelkin posted:

I haven't actually read it, but I flipped through Eric Cline's 1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed once and it looked really interesting, and I hope to return to it someday.

It's good, I have read it and can recommend.

Minenfeld!
Aug 21, 2012



CountFosco posted:

I remember quite liking this book about Ancient Egypt:
https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Fall-Ancient-Egypt/dp/0553384902
Could be useful.

I recommend this. It's one of my favorite books.

Prairie Bus
Sep 22, 2006




I’d recommend https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0300182910/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1527003693&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=against+the+grain. It puts ancient civilizations into a context that’s not often apparent from a recitation of their recorded histories - it makes the case that states were often were a detriment to their citizens, to the point where they expended considerable effort simply keeping people in the state.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

vyelkin posted:

I haven't actually read it, but I flipped through Eric Cline's 1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed once and it looked really interesting, and I hope to return to it someday.

Stop reccing books my library doesn't have :argh:

Aerdan
Apr 14, 2012

Not Dennis NEDry

StrixNebulosa posted:

Stop reccing books my library doesn't have :argh:

Interlibrary loan is your friend.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Aerdan posted:

Interlibrary loan is your friend.

https://catalog.ncls.org/client/en_US/nclscat

Every single one of these stupid libraries DOESN'T HAVE WHAT I WANT TO READ

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe
Awesome, thanks for all the recs. I've added them to my to-reads - I think Against the Grain is what interests me most at the moment.

jagstag
Oct 26, 2015

Prairie Bus posted:

I’d recommend https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0300182910/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1527003693&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=against+the+grain. It puts ancient civilizations into a context that’s not often apparent from a recitation of their recorded histories - it makes the case that states were often were a detriment to their citizens, to the point where they expended considerable effort simply keeping people in the state.

james Scott is really good and this one especially

Prairie Bus
Sep 22, 2006




jagstag posted:

james Scott is really good and this one especially

I was pretty surprised by his arguments but they make total sense when you think about it. The early states were brutal as hell and overly self aggrandizing in their histories. That said, it’s hard to imagine a world where history doesn’t have a bias towards them. They’re the closest thing to a record we’ve got.

jagstag
Oct 26, 2015

Prairie Bus posted:

I was pretty surprised by his arguments but they make total sense when you think about it. The early states were brutal as hell and overly self aggrandizing in their histories. That said, it’s hard to imagine a world where history doesn’t have a bias towards them. They’re the closest thing to a record we’ve got.

well he is an anarchist and the grand majority of written history is commissioned by states after all. this also doubles as a pretty good introduction to anarchist thought imo as well

Beef Hardcheese
Jan 21, 2003

HOW ABOUT I LASH YOUR SHIT


StrixNebulosa posted:

https://catalog.ncls.org/client/en_US/nclscat

Every single one of these stupid libraries DOESN'T HAVE WHAT I WANT TO READ

"Inter-library loan" where the librarians will request things from completely different library systems, sometimes even academic / university libraries. I poked around on the site you linked and didn't find anything, possibly because I don't have an account there. Try calling / emailing them and asking about it.

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Samog
Dec 13, 2006
At least I'm not an 07.

Chas McGill posted:

I'm after a book about really early civilisations. I don't have a specific place in the world in mind, just the earlier the better. I know "civilisations" is a vague word, but I guess peoples who had something resembling cities, agriculture etc. An easy to read history of the cities by the Euphrates maybe?

Ancient Iraq, by Georges Roux, maybe?

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