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It’s cool to see all the ‘waterboarding not real torture’ takes popping back up over the last couple of days. Sometimes you forget these people are the absolute worst in every possible way
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# ? May 11, 2018 16:01 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 21:51 |
Waterboarding is nothing which is why the CIA uses it to extract vital information from people that don't want to talk; because it's no big deal.
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# ? May 11, 2018 16:03 |
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it's insane that people still argue torture works. the senate report clearly stated that every time the cia claimed it got info through torture they lied. all the intelligence was gathered through other means.
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# ? May 11, 2018 16:09 |
I'd say 80% of it (at least) is more "let's punish our enemies" rather than anything else. I don't think they honestly really care about if this stuff works just that the people they hate are tortured which is why the Democrats going along with this for whatever votes they think they are getting are absolutely loathsome. The Republicans obviously are too but I expect nothing good from them.
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# ? May 11, 2018 16:16 |
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Yea all the counter arguments are just 'well ISIS doesn't play NICE' and all. It's just 'we should be as mean and cruel as we want and it's ok because they're the bad guys'.
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# ? May 11, 2018 16:33 |
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TOUGH on TERROR
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# ? May 11, 2018 16:37 |
Torture is just the death penalty with extra steps.
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# ? May 11, 2018 16:39 |
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Good Citizen posted:It’s cool to see all the ‘waterboarding not real torture’ takes popping back up over the last couple of days. Sometimes you forget these people are the absolute worst in every possible way I want to see another talking head who thinks it isn't a big deal have it done. Dude didn't even last 30 seconds before he was like "holy hell that was awful." The big snag with torture is that people will say anything to make it stop. The only way to know if the person even knows what you want to know is to have prior intel anyway so if you already know then why torture? At that point you just want to.
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# ? May 11, 2018 16:45 |
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Without torture, we never would have caught all those witches, werewolves, and vampires. Then where would we be? Checkmate, libs.
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# ? May 11, 2018 16:52 |
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https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/994971056724217857 edit: LOL bari put down the shovel!!! https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/995007152468250626 Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 22:34 on May 11, 2018 |
# ? May 11, 2018 17:17 |
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Good Citizen posted:It’s cool to see all the ‘waterboarding not real torture’ takes popping back up over the last couple of days. Sometimes you forget these people are the absolute worst in every possible way
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# ? May 12, 2018 02:27 |
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So Vox isn't Right Wing (I don't think?) but they have an article talking about certain Right Wingers and John McCain. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/5/11/17345060/trump-mccain-2016-2018-right-wing Apparently he's known as "Songbird John" to them and is a loser cuck traitor.
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# ? May 12, 2018 07:36 |
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NikkolasKing posted:So Vox isn't Right Wing (I don't think?) but they have an article talking about certain Right Wingers and John McCain. I'd like to know why they put warmongering in quotations in an article where they mention 'bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran' and his desire to go into Iraq and stay there until his grandchildren die of old age. McCain seems like a decent person and would be a good guy to call a friend and hang out with, but some of his policy positions are reprehensible. They only seem OK in the grim dark of the present under God-Emperor Trump.
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# ? May 12, 2018 08:48 |
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it's like how cnn and the rest won't say torture when discussing "enhanced interrogation" they'll just have an aside that says something like "which critics liken to torture". edit: there are people that think rubin came out well in this exchange: https://twitter.com/zei_nabq/status/994991488357621768 what a loving world. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 21:37 on May 12, 2018 |
# ? May 12, 2018 18:51 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:it's like how cnn and the rest won't say torture when discussing "enhanced interrogation" they'll just have an aside that says something like "which critics liken to torture". gently caress the right, but any liberal who says "it's so fascinating that you..." is playing into their hands.
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# ? May 12, 2018 22:51 |
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MANime in the sheets posted:I'd like to know why they put warmongering in quotations in an article where they mention 'bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran' and his desire to go into Iraq and stay there until his grandchildren die of old age. McCain seems like a decent person and would be a good guy to call a friend and hang out with, but some of his policy positions are reprehensible. They only seem OK in the grim dark of the present under God-Emperor Trump. he famously constantly snaps at everyone around him, insulted a literal child on the senate floor because her dad was a Democratic president, and called his wife a oval office with too much makeup. He's as wretched as his ideals and the world will objectively improve when his brain liquefies.
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# ? May 13, 2018 00:06 |
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HootTheOwl posted:gently caress the right, but any liberal who says "it's so fascinating that you..." is playing into their hands. Is that a thing? It's a dumb rhetorical style, sure, but is it part of some mechanism I don't know about?
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# ? May 13, 2018 06:31 |
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HootTheOwl posted:gently caress the right, but any liberal who says "it's so fascinating that you..." is playing into their hands. What if I say "It's so fascinating that you think anything you say matters at this point." as I press the button for the crane to lower a bunch of NRA board members into a vat of boiling acid, supervillain style? Am I still playing into the right's hands in that absurdly implausible fantasy scenario?
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# ? May 13, 2018 06:43 |
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Alkydere posted:What if I say "It's so fascinating that you think anything you say matters at this point." as I press the button for the crane to lower a bunch of NRA board members into a vat of boiling acid, supervillain style? Am I still playing into the right's hands in that absurdly implausible fantasy scenario? Sir, this is a McDonald’s drive through.
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# ? May 13, 2018 07:06 |
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Literally Esoteric posted:Is that a thing? It's a dumb rhetorical style, sure, but is it part of some mechanism I don't know about? "Fascinating" is a four-syllable word, which is pretty ivory-tower elitist to use, imo not actually my opinion
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# ? May 13, 2018 15:00 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:it's insane that people still argue torture works. the senate report clearly stated that every time the cia claimed it got info through torture they lied. all the intelligence was gathered through other means. They like torture, and torture works in that it harms people they hate and is an expression of that hate. Having to pretend there's another reason for torture is draining to those who support it, but if they argue nakedly that they want more people to be tortured, then everyone will see them for what they are.
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# ? May 13, 2018 22:45 |
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EdithUpwards posted:They like torture, and torture works in that it harms people they hate and is an expression of that hate. Having to pretend there's another reason for torture is draining to those who support it, but if they argue nakedly that they want more people to be tortured, then everyone will see them for what they are. It also works in all those super cool movies they love.
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# ? May 14, 2018 01:42 |
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I don't think torture even worked when Jack Bauer did it.
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# ? May 14, 2018 03:39 |
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it was extremely effective in action-thriller Babe: Pig in the City
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# ? May 14, 2018 03:44 |
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Dr Christmas posted:I don't think torture even worked when Jack Bauer did it.
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# ? May 14, 2018 05:15 |
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I recently watch a video essay about 24 and all it's crazyness. There's a named character called Jos that has like 5 seconds of screen time before getting killed. There's a white girl whose screen time as a dead body/prop is more then 50% her screen time. Also FICTIONAL NOT REAL black prezes getting shot a lot. And I'm not talking about ones from Africa. PhazonLink fucked around with this message at 05:44 on May 14, 2018 |
# ? May 14, 2018 05:40 |
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Happy Mother's Day from one of the leading intellectuals of the right wing! https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/995667667720716289
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# ? May 14, 2018 07:15 |
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Leofish posted:Happy Mother's Day from one of the leading intellectuals of the right wing!
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# ? May 14, 2018 07:30 |
Rent-A-Cop posted:TBF his kid is right. Having a job sucks. Being a parent is a job. A job without pay
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# ? May 14, 2018 08:02 |
Dr Christmas posted:I don't think torture even worked when Jack Bauer did it. Not only doesn't torture work in 24, they ofte torture innocent people. In the first season the only way they get the terrorist to cooprate is to give into his demands.
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# ? May 14, 2018 08:05 |
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Alhazred posted:Being a parent is a job. A job without pay No sorry, it's actually easy and women deserve no support
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# ? May 14, 2018 10:16 |
Parenting is 100% cuddling all the time, with occasional breaks for kisses. Get it straight, libs.
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# ? May 14, 2018 13:32 |
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Parenting is 100% cuddling all the time, with occasional breaks for kisses. Get it straight, libs. Hey now, sometimes you get to hit them! It not only relieves stress, but you're teaching your kids a valuable lesson: that hitting kids makes you feel strong and good.
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# ? May 14, 2018 13:35 |
Screaming Idiot posted:Hey now, sometimes you get to hit them! It not only relieves stress, but you're teaching your kids a valuable lesson: that hitting kids makes you feel strong and good. "I was hit as a kid and I turned out fine!" *gives kid five across the face for not getting his beer fast enough*
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# ? May 14, 2018 13:51 |
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Alhazred posted:Being a parent is a job. A job without pay Parents, rise up and slay your oppressors.
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# ? May 14, 2018 14:04 |
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You know, I was mocking conservative parenting with my last post, but it still made me feel bad because I was beaten as a kid and I have anger issues as a result, to the point where I don't trust myself to drink around other people, have children, or be in a steady relationship. Don't hit your kids or your spouse, people. The scars and bruises are more than physical.
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# ? May 14, 2018 14:10 |
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Leofish posted:Happy Mother's Day from one of the leading intellectuals of the right wing!
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# ? May 14, 2018 19:34 |
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Holy gently caress that's beautiful.
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# ? May 14, 2018 19:38 |
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I called my 24-year-old daughter for the 4th time this week this morning but it just keeps ringing. Oh god I’m so alone. — Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) May 13, 2038
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# ? May 14, 2018 20:47 |
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Good Citizen posted:I called my 24-year-old daughter for the 4th time this week this morning but it just keeps ringing. Oh god I’m so alone. And then for Fathers Day, Ben will let his dad ghostwrite all his tweets. lol jk, Poppy Shapiro inspects everything Ben writes before he's allowed to hit Submit on it.
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# ? May 14, 2018 21:18 |