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marshmonkey posted:https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/996144406016258048 I really want to see the 39% who believe that he is a stooge of Putin and think that's perfectly fine and good tbh.
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Alter Ego posted:Democrats were +4 in 2006 and took both houses of Congress. I realize the Senate map is godawful but just this. The GOP is pretty hated outside their base and trump has only given that hatred a face to attack. i think they will lose the house, maybe the senate. whether they gently caress it all up afterward is debatable. the GOP isnt gonna get a super majority in November. you can only get so far with white spite.
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Alter Ego posted:Democrats were +4 in 2006 and took both houses of Congress. I realize the Senate map is godawful but just Before the 2010 gerrymander. And Republicans had a 26 seat majority going into 2006. They had a 59 seat majority of the start of the current congress.
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It will take more then +4 to take the House this year due to gerrymandering. Like, it would be technically possible but only like 20% chance. But luckily we’re looking at an average of. +7 in the polls and a regular overperformance that puts the number closer to D +10 which takes the House with 20 seats to spare.
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Given all these attacks going on I figured I should get educated. What exactly is a Zionist? Someone who approves of Israel in the theoretical, or the specific? Do you have to approve of the government of Israel? Do you have to be culturally or ethnically Jewish? In the past I've always defied Zionist as, "Whoever just used this word is about to explain how Jews sterilized his cousin," but it seems like it's rapidly becoming a big issue.
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Alter Ego posted:Democrats were +4 in 2006 and took both houses of Congress. I realize the Senate map is godawful but just The 2010 gerrymander is still worth anywhere from 2 to 4 points over and above the natural demographic advantage Republicans enjoy in the house due to Democrats clustering in cities. I hope Dems take the house, but +6 is nailbiting territory, and comparisons to 06's house districts are worthless
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Alter Ego posted:Democrats were +4 in 2006 and took both houses of Congress. I realize the Senate map is godawful but just I will easily bet money or at least toxx that the dems won't win the house. Easily.
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Mystic Mongol posted:Given all these attacks going on I figured I should get educated. What exactly is a Zionist? Someone who approves of Israel in the theoretical, or the specific? Do you have to approve of the government of Israel? Do you have to be culturally or ethnically Jewish? It's just someone who believes in the existence of a Jewish state.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:It's just someone who believes in the existence of a Jewish state. So not necessarily Israel? Could you have a Jewish state in, say, the north of France?
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Alter Ego posted:Democrats were +4 in 2006 and took both houses of Congress. I realize the Senate map is godawful but just discourse with celestialscribe proved to be some weird monkeys paw in the 2016, where prior iterations of this thread asked him to post a map a thousand times while he chicken littled so please don’t tempt fate again and just ignore them or make pee pee noises or something skylined! fucked around with this message at 23:53 on May 14, 2018 |
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skylined! posted:discourse with celestialscribe proved to be some weird monkeys paw in the 2016, where prior iterations of this thread asked him to post a map a thousand times while he chicken littler so please don’t tempt fate again and just ignore them or make pee pee noises or something I said that Wisconsin and Michigan were in play. Turns out they were.
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Mystic Mongol posted:So not necessarily Israel? Could you have a Jewish state in, say, the north of France? I don't think you'll meet many Jews that advocate for a Jewish state that's anywhere other than Israel.
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Mystic Mongol posted:Given all these attacks going on I figured I should get educated. What exactly is a Zionist? Someone who approves of Israel in the theoretical, or the specific? Do you have to approve of the government of Israel? Do you have to be culturally or ethnically Jewish? It depends. I suppose in the most basic sense, Zionism is the belief that the nation of Israel should exist in some form, and a Zionist is anyone holding that belief. It's so vague as to not really be particularly useful. I mean, I support the right of Israel to exist, but not as an Apartheid state and not with its capital in Jerusalem (or having sole control over Jerusalem). The current government of Israel is composed of people who are committing and have in the past committed war crimes, and I do not support them in any way. In the sense that I support the existence of the state of Israel in concept, I could be called a Zionist. In the sense that I very much oppose what the state of Israel is actually doing right now, I could be considered by some to be an anti-Zionist. The greatest trick the Israeli right-wing ever pulled was convincing the world that criticizing the actions of the government of Israel is the same thing as criticizing Judaism itself.
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Instead of reading tea leaves try going out and campaigning. We are the wave.
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Mystic Mongol posted:So not necessarily Israel? Could you have a Jewish state in, say, the north of France? Prior to 1948, Zionism wasn't explicitly about Israel. Although most Zionists generally thought that Israel was the goal. After 1948, it specifically means someone who believes Israel should exist as a Jewish state to protect Jews from experiencing the anti-semitism and persecution that they faced during the diaspora. Zionism refers to the concept of a "Jewish Homeland" that exists for members of the diaspora.
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Mystic Mongol posted:So not necessarily Israel? Could you have a Jewish state in, say, the north of France? Speaking of Zion, if you really want to delve into the history of anti-jewish propaganda I would highly recommend "The Plot" by Will Eisner. It's the history of one of the most famous pieces of propaganda. *edit* apparently the Zionist movement considered other countries, such as Uganda, but Zion is literally Jerusalem. Babylon Astronaut fucked around with this message at 23:51 on May 14, 2018 |
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twice burned ice posted:I don't think you'll meet many Jews that advocate for a Jewish state that's anywhere other than Israel. Historically, some did, I believe. Now that a Jewish state exists where it does, I don't imagine you'll find anyone advocating for it to be moved.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/14/us/eric-greitens-missouri-governor-charges.html "Prosecutors on Monday abruptly dropped a felony invasion-of-privacy charge against Missouri’s governor, Eric Greitens, whose trial had been expected to begin this week. The announcement came after three days of jury selection in the case."
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ICMB posted:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/14/us/eric-greitens-missouri-governor-charges.html Bizarre. Even so, the state House investigation and impeachment hearings are going through, so he's still in trouble.
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Majorian posted:Bizarre. Still, the state House investigation and impeachment hearings are going through, so he's still in trouble. They're planning to refile through a special prosecutor. There is more to the story than simply dropped charges.
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moron labe
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FuturePastNow posted:moron labe Nice
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feels good to take my catch phrase from slave-holding pederasts.
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Groovelord Neato posted:feels good to take my catch phrase from slave-holding pederasts. Baby-killers, at that. \/\/\/that's a good burn\/\/\/ Majorian fucked around with this message at 00:03 on May 15, 2018 |
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Your Gay Uncle posted:The weirdest thing about the moron labe people is that right after the blonde, blue eyed white Spartan said " Come and take them" the Persians were like "Oh, Ok"and they came and killed them all and took all their weapons. They rally around molon labe, but there's a much more apt example of laconic phrase for them quote:King Demaratus, being annoyed by someone pestering him with a question concerning who the most exemplary Spartan was, answered "He that is least like you."
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Mustached Demon posted:Instead of reading tea leaves try going out and campaigning. We are the wave. No man if I can just figure out the magic argument that will contextualize the world I can actually do nothing instead.
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Eox posted:They rally around molon labe, but there's a much more apt example of laconic phrase for them Good, but peak spartan is their replies to Philip of Macedon: quote:A prominent example involves Philip II of Macedon. After invading southern Greece and receiving the submission of other key city-states, he turned his attention to Sparta and asked menacingly whether he should come as friend or foe; the reply was "Neither."[3] Losing patience, he sent the message:
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CelestialScribe posted:I will easily bet money or at least toxx that the dems won't win the house. Easily. Unless something massive changes in the next six months, you're gonna be out your account.
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sparta sucked and i wish xerxes had ground them into dust.
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Xerxes sucked and blew an inherited empire chasing dragons The boomer of Persia imo
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Caros posted:Good, but peak spartan is their replies to Philip of Macedon: quote:A prominent example involves Philip II of Macedon. After invading southern Greece and receiving the submission of other key city-states, he turned his attention to Sparta and asked menacingly whether he should come as friend or foe; the reply was "Sir this is a Panera Bread."[3] Losing patience, he sent the message:
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Mystic Mongol posted:In the past I've always defied Zionist as, "Whoever just used this word is about to explain how Jews sterilized his cousin," but it seems like it's rapidly becoming a big issue. It's weird that you're using that as a conspiracy theory because Israel has been documented as sterilizing migrants of non-European Jewish descent
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CelestialScribe posted:I will easily bet money or at least toxx that the dems won't win the house. Easily. Republicans to take the house is selling for $0.40 right now. You stand to make 150% return if you buy now.
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Ague Proof posted:A prominent example involves Philip II of Macedon. After invading southern Greece and receiving the submission of other key city-states, he turned his attention to Sparta and asked menacingly whether he should come as friend or foe; the reply was "Sir this is a Panera Bread."[3] Losing patience, he sent the message:
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Possible explanation for the ZTE flip-flop:quote:China Contributing $500 Million to Trump-Linked Project in Indonesia So it's not direct ZTE->Trump's pockets but pretty close. Even if this wasn't an explicit quid pro quo, there's definitely an appearance of impropriety that would get a normal person in trouble.
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Sparta was built on slave labor
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mobby_6kl posted:Possible explanation for the ZTE flip-flop: No it can't possibly be a simple quid pro quo, Trump already rich he can't be bought
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Vladimir Putin posted:Sparta was built on slave labor You're deliberately baiting for the "so is America" response.
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I think Israel has a right to exist.
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