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Dumb Lowtax posted:...and Johnny O did not procure this video for his episode? Making fun of stuff like that doesn't really fit with the shows feel. They don't give a toss if Rudy was able to poke a bit of fun at himself at one point, they can when he does stuff that is genuinely hosed up or harms people.
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I just want some Trump supporters to see it lol
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Dumb Lowtax posted:I just want some Trump supporters to see it lol They probably don't watch Last Week Tonight With Foreign Liberal.
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May 9, 2018 09:44
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Not only that, but if audio and video evidence were enough to bother Trump supporters, they wouldn't be Trump supporters. They would just pause for a second as their cognitive dissonance center rebooted and continue on.
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May 9, 2018 15:39
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When John was packing up his desk I think I saw him throw a copy of Dionetics into the box. What story/bit was that a part of?
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May 10, 2018 04:47
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Tree Dude posted:When John was packing up his desk I think I saw him throw a copy of Dionetics into the box. What story/bit was that a part of? Didn't he do a segment on Scientology?
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May 10, 2018 06:24
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Not that, it's Celine Dion's last album
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May 10, 2018 06:30
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If nothing else, Dianetics fits right on in with the absurd bullshit Johnny O likes to cover. That said, I'm sure there has been at least one scientology segment in the four years he's been on.
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May 10, 2018 06:40
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If they did a scientology segment I must have missed it. I'd love to see him dunk on scientology for a while.
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May 10, 2018 11:25
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There is no way there isn't an extremely high ranking member of Scientology on the board of HBO.
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Bust Rodd posted:There is no way there isn't an extremely high ranking member of Scientology on the board of HBO. Going Clear was an HBO production where they famously hired a poo poo ton of lawyers to make sure they couldn't be sued. If anything I would say there is an extremely high ranking ex-Scientology member on the board of HBO.
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Scientology's been on the decline for a long while, and it's not really that likely for scientologists to be lurking in every high-up echelon of society, Also HBO produced the biggest in-depth documentary on Scientology ever, so I think it's safe to assume they're clean.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Scientology's been on the decline for a long while, and it's not really that likely for scientologists to be lurking in every high-up echelon of society, Don't you mean, it's safe to assume they're... clear? Xenu!
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Yeah, if Scientology had any influence over HBO at all, overt or covert, there's no way Going Clear would have been made.
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May 10, 2018 16:15
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One thing I’ll say in Guiliani’s defense, hosting a mob movie marathon makes total sense. Prosecuting the five families is how he made his name. He was the first prosecutor to actually use RICO and get it to stick.
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May 13, 2018 23:58
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Rudy was also part of the "Den of Thieves" Milken/Ivan Boesky, etc prosecutions in the late 1980's too.
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May 14, 2018 00:07
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No comments on yesterday's episode? The show didn't actually end.
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May 15, 2018 03:03
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Listening to the cartoonishly corrupt buffoonery of another countries government is an incredibly quaint feeling for me now. I spent the whole time like “that’s adorable”
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May 15, 2018 03:11
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I did think drawing equivalence between the InfoWars reporter and the sailor was unfair and mean of John.
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Lycus posted:I did think drawing equivalence between the InfoWars reporter and the sailor was unfair and mean of John. Yeah, the woman was very educated if you watch the video. She just wisely didn't take the bait. The segment also missed key points. Such as the attempted coup in 2002, and the fact that the government and the military are on the same side, which is a major reason why Maduro has such a strangle hold on the country.
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May 15, 2018 03:38
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"See how terrible it is when there is a ruling class that has all the wealth and revels in corruption! See how that demonstrates that giving healthcare is bad and we need to put all our support behind this corrupt millionaire!" Granted, on a broader scale a command economy is much more likely to fall into that sort of mismanagement, but what makes it the most susceptible is when there's a strongman with a cult of personality with an iron-fisted grip on the nation. Russia's going to be real bad when Putin finally kicks the bucket. There doesn't seem to be a good way out for the people of Venezuela without the international community trying to intervene with sanctions, so it makes sense that they're protesting intensely and violently. I don't get why they'd try to give a cutesy name to a jar of poo poo though, it kinda diminishes the impact.
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What I find odd is that Bolivia is right there in terms of a Latin American nation with strong arm anti-capitalist populist polices, that has shown (so far) to be sustainable and successful.
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May 15, 2018 05:06
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The problem in Venezuela is that as an oil rich nation it was able to grow on imports, without the agricultural base to sustain itself if the oil dried up or (as mentioned in the segment) if the value suddenly dropped. If they had built up a surplus or diversified their economy they would have been able to weather it better, but another issue with having a single strong export is that it's very easy to succumb to corruption. When you're rich on oil it doesn't actually take a lot of people to extract the wealth that drives your nation so the thinking eventually becomes "well what do I need all these OTHER people for?" This is why so many oil rich countries have such a poor standard of living except for the very top people - the only infrastructure they've built is what is necessary for the oil to be extracted and exported; everything else goes to the military or their own extravagant lifestyles. Chavez may have genuinely wanted to help his nation, but he also probably liked "being loved by the people" more than he liked responsible economic policy. Maduro isn't even well liked so there's no reason for him to even keep up the pretense of caring what people think. The problem with using it as a point of comparison with the US is of course that the US economy is NOT driven entirely by the export of a single resource, and also has a pretty strong agricultural base to boot. The US has one of the most diverse and resilient economies on the planet which is why even if there are pockets of poverty, the nation as a whole has just gotten richer. Socialism would allow those riches to also benefit those pockets that have been hurt by the changing economy, but that would mean that billionaires might have slightly fewer billions so they pretend that the entire US economy is as fragile as Venezuela's and if you touch anything the whole nation will collapse.
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What the hell is wrong with Wilmer Valderrama, that section was incredibly cringe-worthy and the dude behaved like it was his first time on stage.
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Well if you really want to get down to it, very few markets are actually free, between oligopolies, cartels, and government subsidies/regulations/interventionism, and it's basically unfeasible to do a full-fledged command economy from top to bottom, so it's a total misrepresentation to act like there's a real either/or question between mutually exclusive options. But I guess the cold war bred a whole generation to think along those terms either way.
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The Cheshire Cat posted:The problem in Venezuela is that as an oil rich nation it was able to grow on imports, without the agricultural base to sustain itself if the oil dried up or (as mentioned in the segment) if the value suddenly dropped. If they had built up a surplus or diversified their economy they would have been able to weather it better, but another issue with having a single strong export is that it's very easy to succumb to corruption. When you're rich on oil it doesn't actually take a lot of people to extract the wealth that drives your nation so the thinking eventually becomes "well what do I need all these OTHER people for?" This is why so many oil rich countries have such a poor standard of living except for the very top people - the only infrastructure they've built is what is necessary for the oil to be extracted and exported; everything else goes to the military or their own extravagant lifestyles. Chavez may have genuinely wanted to help his nation, but he also probably liked "being loved by the people" more than he liked responsible economic policy. Maduro isn't even well liked so there's no reason for him to even keep up the pretense of caring what people think.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:What the hell is wrong with Wilmer Valderrama, that section was incredibly cringe-worthy and the dude behaved like it was his first time on stage. Yeah that was a really unfunny way to end the show.
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Stoned sailor Berniette was adorable.
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rapeface posted:Stoned sailor Berniette was adorable. We’ve been talking about that video for about a week in the Trump thread in D&D.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:What the hell is wrong with Wilmer Valderrama, that section was incredibly cringe-worthy and the dude behaved like it was his first time on stage. I just assumed he was high AF.
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rapeface posted:Stoned sailor Berniette was adorable. Hell yeah she is. Sailor Socialism posted:She also explained her "worms in your brains" comment: "When I said, 'I just want people to have healthcare, honey,' one of their reporters said off-camera, 'That's what Hugo Chavez said,'" Dasha said. "And when I looked in their eyes, they seemed so sick and crazy, like they had parasites in their brain that were making them say all this stupid, confused poo poo." 
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eyebeem posted:We’ve been talking about that video for about a week in the Trump thread in D&D. I already can't keep up with the C-Spam Trump thread
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I can't believe John Oliver had the audacity to say the USA doesn't gently caress with Venezuela. You lying gently caress.
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Unless I'm mistaken, this weeks topic wasn't one of those time sensitive stories that were a result of recent news events. So I'm just wondering, how the hell is this weeks main story exactly the same one as the podcast I paused in order to watch this week's episode on the train?
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Looten Plunder posted:Unless I'm mistaken, this weeks topic wasn't one of those time sensitive stories that were a result of recent news events. So I'm just wondering, how the hell is this weeks main story exactly the same one as the podcast I paused in order to watch this week's episode on the train? I found your song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvAYIJSSZY But seriously... most of his main stories aren't time-sensitive stories that are done as a result of recent news events. At least, not in a top-down, "Oh, [X] happened, so let's hurry up and make next week's main story about it!" sort of way. They're usually far too research-heavy for that. There have been some exceptions, but by and large, the main stories are things that they've been working on for a while. Sometimes they can be tied to a current event in some way, but not always.
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More often than not I think they are time sensitive. Venezuela, Rudy Guliani, Italian Elections, the NRA, North Korea, and pretty much every trump story are all recent main stories that come to mind that were in response to or in anticipation of current events.
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Looten Plunder posted:More often than not I think they are time sensitive. Venezuela, Rudy Guliani, Italian Elections, the NRA, North Korea, and pretty much every trump story are all recent main stories that come to mind that were in response to or in anticipation of current events. Well, to be fair, "in anticipation of" isn't the same thing as what you initially said. But I don't think we're thinking of "time sensitive" in the same way, and also... well, I have a theory about most of the main stories that show up on this show. Most of the examples you cite are things that could have been done well ahead of time and then shelved until the subject matter was somehow (and sometimes only tangentially) mentioned in the national (or international) news cycle. Save a bit of space for the necessary segues into the story and current references that make it seem current, add the necessary lines and jokes, and there you have it--a "timely" main story. Just watch the stories on Venezuela, the NRA, North Korea, and the Italian elections again, and take note of how much of the content isn't strictly related to very recent events. Now, the Rudy Giuliani thing... seeing as how he was just another random talking head on Fox News before jumping in to "help" Trump's legal team, that one does seem time-sensitive. Now, if I'm right about this, it's important to note that there's nothing wrong with this way of producing the show. I mean, it gives the writers and researchers time to thoroughly deal with the topic at hand, and with many of these topics, you just know that it's only a matter of time before you can tie your story into a recent news event. Then, from the audience's point of view, being presented with such an in-depth presentation on what would appear to be a current news item is actually really cool and surprising--especially since media outlets dealing specifically with said current news event probably haven't had the time or foresight to put together such an in-depth review of the subject themselves. It's good TV.
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I'd assume they have various segments like this on the spike so to speak; researched, written, video clips prepared, etc etc, that they can throw in whenever. It wouldn't surprise me, for example, if they had this segment on rehab sitting, ready to go, for two, three years at this point, and finally had a slow week with nothing else exciting happening lately needing to be thrown in.
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