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little munchkin posted:my second favorite promo of his after steiner math https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVOLkYxEdnY Why does this guy have multiple videos of him cutting promos with random wrestlers? He seems like a cool dude.
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Vince I know you’re reading this. Sign him.
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Low Desert Punk posted:i was getting gas the other day and Scott Steiner was on the next pump over
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Low Desert Punk posted:i was getting gas the other day and Scott Steiner was on the next pump over https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ycw58kKdQXI
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Low Desert Punk posted:i was getting gas the other day and Scott Steiner was on the next pump over So both the SUV and the man get gassed every time they cross the street?
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Low Desert Punk posted:i was getting gas the other day and Scott Steiner was on the next pump over He's muscular as hell but I think he's 5'10 in real life. When I saw him near guys like Nash and hogan he always looked like a dwarf compared to them.
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Here is with some jabroni mark fans.
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I didn't see this here, but someone took the WCW contracts and made a site with a breakdown for how much each guy made: https://sites.google.com/site/chrisharrington/wcw_contracts
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Rusty Shackelford posted:I didn't see this here, but someone took the WCW contracts and made a site with a breakdown for how much each guy made: https://sites.google.com/site/chrisharrington/wcw_contracts Hey this is pretty cool, thanks. Weird that Kimberly isn't on there though. She was a pretty big star and easily the most famous Nitro Girl. Torrie Wilson making more than Madusa is strange, too.
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ColeM posted:He's muscular as hell but I think he's 5'10 in real life. When I saw him near guys like Nash and hogan he always looked like a dwarf compared to them.
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NikkolasKing posted:Hey this is pretty cool, thanks. Kimberly is on the list as Kimberly Page but is listed with the men for some reason.
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man, i've read about raven/saturn's free the flock match, but it really is a good one. for one night perry saturn was the most over and perfect babyface in the world. you establish kidman as a face immediately after the stable's breakup. it's such a great stable break-up match. for a group that was mostly jobbers that never won anything, the flock told a pretty good story.
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Rusty Shackelford posted:I didn't see this here, but someone took the WCW contracts and made a site with a breakdown for how much each guy made: https://sites.google.com/site/chrisharrington/wcw_contracts If you ever wanted to see what "sunrise, sunset" looks like in chart form... 
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shiksa posted:man, i've read about raven/saturn's free the flock match, but it really is a good one. for one night perry saturn was the most over and perfect babyface in the world. you establish kidman as a face immediately after the stable's breakup. it's such a great stable break-up match. for a group that was mostly jobbers that never won anything, the flock told a pretty good story. It's also the ONLY good match on that PPV, IIRC
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El Gallinero Gros posted:It's also the ONLY good match on that PPV, IIRC oh yeah it was pretty dire. wcw is starting to lurch and strain at this point so i'm anticipating a real downhill ride.
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magiccarpet posted:
Fun fact, when they returned from the commercial break, Goldberg was still walking around with Steiner in the air
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magiccarpet posted:
Didn't use Buff enough.
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RealFoxy posted:I met Heath Slater at a Walmart around here and he looked MASSIVE just because I'm not used to seeing people in shape around here. I remember someone meeting the Miz and being astonished at how big Miz was, because WWE is a land of freaky monsters and hence the semi-freaky monsters just look like normal/small men unless you see them out in reality. I also remember being at a Canadian park thing where a bunch of wrestlers played softball (Triple H was there, so you KNEW this was in the early days when he had no connections whatsoever) and due to circumstances Davey Boy Smith walked right past me. To my astonishment, I was slightly taller than him. Also, in regards to the Master P discussion several pages back, I lived for a time in a certain place where the people I lived with were fans of a certain genre of entertainment and hence had BET on all the time. So I was exposed to dozens of hours of rap and hip-hop. I saw approximately ONE Master P video, once. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enOXifkv0Jc This was in 2001, so I guess that says it all.
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Yeah seeing even Chris Jericho in a photograph with normal humans is kind of off-putting.
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Rusty Shackelford posted:I didn't see this here, but someone took the WCW contracts and made a site with a breakdown for how much each guy made: https://sites.google.com/site/chrisharrington/wcw_contracts This is definitely interesting and raises so many questions. Were they just monumentally bad at merch sales as a company or is there hollywood accounting going on there so they didn't have to pay anyone? Some guys on there that were super popular made almost no money on merch and barely any on licensing (which I assume is video games and dvd sales?) All fudged accounting? Also holy poo poo at the increase of nearly everyone from 1996 to 1997. Look at Sting for example - went from 70k to 900k and there are others that had even bigger jumps. Also why are some listed as having huge contracts but then had much less on the books? Many of those documents don't match up and I assume they weren't fabricated by a fan because they were taken from lawsuit paperwork? All of it is fascinating to me for whatever reason.
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Mr. Carlisle posted:This is definitely interesting and raises so many questions. Were they just monumentally bad at merch sales as a company or is there hollywood accounting going on there so they didn't have to pay anyone? Jericho told a story about his girlfriend buying his WCW action figure, and it rung up as a Hogan toy. Meaning Hogan got the royalties.
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Mr. Carlisle posted:This is definitely interesting and raises so many questions. Were they just monumentally bad at merch sales as a company or is there hollywood accounting going on there so they didn't have to pay anyone? Some guys on there that were super popular made almost no money on merch and barely any on licensing (which I assume is video games and dvd sales?) All fudged accounting? WCW's merchandise business went from practically nothing to record levels after the nWo. The numbers they were doing in 97 and then 98 were insane, so the huge jumps actually happened.
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The company was making so much money for a few years it would be weirder if people's salaries weren't increasing, especially top guys like Sting
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Even 50k seems extremely low for Hulk Hogan merch in 1997 because he had to be getting a large chunk of the NWO shirts and they had to have sold millions of those things - they were everywhere in my school at the time and I'm sure everyone else's.Randaconda posted:The company was making so much money for a few years it would be weirder if people's salaries weren't increasing, especially top guys like Sting Of course, but jumping from 70k to 900k is a hellova raise for one of WCW's biggest guys pre-NWO. Good for them for cashing in - it's incredible how many people they had on the payroll at the time. These numbers probably don't include stuff like travel costs for flying the entire roster to events even if they weren't being used and poo poo like that. I think that bit was from the death of wcw book? I can't remember. We all know WCW burned through a metric poo poo ton of cash but when you see the numbers all broken down it's amazing. Orange Carlisle fucked around with this message at 15:39 on May 21, 2018 |
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Even 50k seems extremely low for Hulk Hogan merch in 1997 because he had to be getting a large chunk of the NWO shirts and they had to have sold millions of those things - they were everywhere in my school at the time and I'm sure everyone else's.
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Endless Mike posted:I'd bet a large percentage of nWo shirts in the wild were bootlegs. Nah, WCW sold insane amounts of nWo merchandise. The 1997 figures are crazy. Some of Hogan's stuff might be hidden by how he was paid through Time Warner?
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I remember on one of Stone Cold's podcasts with Kevin Nash, Nash wagered that he probably only made a fraction with the NWO shirts compared to what Austin made with the 3:16 shirts, claiming that it was because WCW's royalty payments for merchandising were all weird and messed up. There's probably not much basis for this other than two mates having a slightly drunken chat, and the circumstances between the two are fairly different to begin with, but if you can't trust Big Sexy then who can you trust.
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Hedgehog Pie posted:I remember on one of Stone Cold's podcasts with Kevin Nash, Nash wagered that he probably only made a fraction with the NWO shirts compared to what Austin made with the 3:16 shirts, claiming that it was because WCW's royalty payments for merchandising were all weird and messed up. There's probably not much basis for this other than two mates having a slightly drunken chat, and the circumstances between the two are fairly different to begin with, but if you can't trust Big Sexy then who can you trust. Nash is frequently full of poo poo but WCW is the same company that once sent Chris Jericho a a cheque for $0.39, so he's probably right
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Halloween Jack posted:Wasn't Jericho also the one who received a FedEx envelope with literally nothing in it? I might be conflating my story with yours. Either way, not good asset management.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Either way, not good asset management.
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Hedgehog Pie posted:I remember on one of Stone Cold's podcasts with Kevin Nash, Nash wagered that he probably only made a fraction with the NWO shirts compared to what Austin made with the 3:16 shirts, claiming that it was because WCW's royalty payments for merchandising were all weird and messed up. There's probably not much basis for this other than two mates having a slightly drunken chat, and the circumstances between the two are fairly different to begin with, but if you can't trust Big Sexy then who can you trust. As honest as Nash is about how he did everything he could in WCW to weasel his way into more money when he's on podcasts and shows talking about it I doubt he'd lie about WCW merch payouts being poo poo. If the figures in that chart are true it looks like almost everyone got hosed on merch. One even had -1 dollar implying that they had actually lost money on their own merch somehow. None of the merch figures look realistic.
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Endless Mike posted:I'd bet a large percentage of nWo shirts in the wild were bootlegs. Weirdly enough, I think they were mostly legit. A lot of the logo press transfer shops were out of business at this point so the infrastructure just wasn't there yet. It wouldn't be until early 2000s when the direct to garment printing became an option. Nowadays, bootlegging show merch is decent money with minimal risks, unless you're the weirdo still selling poo poo out of the back of your car.
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