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Agrikk posted:Sorry to get pedantic but I loving hate the term “resource” when referring to employees. Not that we are special snowflakes but the term resource implies some kind of nameless fungible asset. We bitch in these threads about how “if it has a cord it’s ITs’ problem” and calling ourselves resources does nothing to dissuade that.
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Vulture Culture posted:take it up with Human Resources
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Your employees are a precious resource. Exploit them.
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May 15, 2018 15:41
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Agrikk posted:Sorry to get pedantic but I loving hate the term “resource” when referring to employees. Not that we are special snowflakes but the term resource implies some kind of nameless fungible asset. We bitch in these threads about how “if it has a cord it’s ITs’ problem” and calling ourselves resources does nothing to dissuade that. I actually typed IT guy but went back and deleted that because yeah. I'm not going to use person because then I'm just going to have to correct that habit in 10 years when we're all replaced by robots. I totally get what you're saying. But resource is a broad term and an employee is under that umbrella.
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May 15, 2018 15:48
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I had a colleague ask me about my vacation next month. If it was approved, and if I could reschedule. I'm still laughing.
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May 15, 2018 15:48
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Did they say why they wanted you to reschedule? Was it so they could go instead? I just want to know how hard to laugh at them.
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May 15, 2018 15:50
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I'm used to being interrupted because a professor issue is a literal building burning down situation, but it's always something simple like "they didn't loving plug in the HDMI cable all the way". Then again, when I'm caught in a bind I either give them a quick time estimate or ask one of my other colleagues to assist.
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May 15, 2018 15:57
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Aunt Beth posted:For this reason, I actually sort of like HR's old name, "personnel," better. Here they rebranded HR into People & Culture. But I still get referred to as a resource sometimes and I still get ignored when I tell people to not do that.
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May 15, 2018 15:58
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They wanted someone from IT to be on standby for an event.
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May 15, 2018 16:00
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Agrikk posted:Sorry to get pedantic but I loving hate the term “resource” when referring to employees. Not that we are special snowflakes but the term resource implies some kind of nameless fungible asset. We bitch in these threads about how “if it has a cord it’s ITs’ problem” and calling ourselves resources does nothing to dissuade that. DRI Directly Responsible Individual
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May 15, 2018 16:04
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Human Leverages.
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May 15, 2018 16:06
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Sefal posted:They wanted someone from IT to be on standby for an event. That’s a solid lol yea
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May 15, 2018 16:07
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Agrikk posted:Sorry to get pedantic but I loving hate the term “resource” when referring to employees. Not that we are special snowflakes but the term resource implies some kind of nameless fungible asset. We bitch in these threads about how “if it has a cord it’s ITs’ problem” and calling ourselves resources does nothing to dissuade that. remember, ie is in management, so you can't expect him to see employees as people
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May 15, 2018 16:14
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Agrikk posted:Sorry to get pedantic but I loving hate the term “resource” when referring to employees. Not that we are special snowflakes but the term resource implies some kind of nameless fungible asset. We bitch in these threads about how “if it has a cord it’s ITs’ problem” and calling ourselves resources does nothing to dissuade that. That's a "thank you for your time" red flag in phone interviews for me anymore. Last time it came up I hoped out of the in-person in about 5 minutes.
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May 15, 2018 16:19
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RFC2324 posted:remember, ie is in management, so you can't expect him to see employees as people Workers of the world unite!
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May 15, 2018 16:20
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Sefal posted:They wanted someone from IT to be on standby for an event. I'm not going to laugh at this, because if I do, I may never, EVER stop. On a different note: I'm now on a level with powershell where I can figure out what the commands I need are vaguely, and if someone else's script will actually do what I need it to rather than being "uh...maybe?". This is going to make life very slightly easier.
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May 15, 2018 16:21
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Got a theme song for all you web developers out there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCor40mWZlg
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May 15, 2018 16:27
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Bunni-kat posted:I'm not going to laugh at this, because if I do, I may never, EVER stop. The fun thing about powershell is when Microsofts documentation on commands is out of date/wrong and you have to use tab completion and fuckery just to figure out correct commands.
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RFC2324 posted:remember, ie is in management, so you can't expect him to see employees as people  I'm in DSA and am fairly active in my chapter, spending a bunch of my time there. I'm also assisting in getting an IWW tech workers branch going in my city, although I am not eligible to join. Like I've said in the thread before, I've managed IT folks for most of my career. Right now I manage a grand total of 1 person, which was one of the reasons I took this position. I'm not going to type up some manifesto in response to a joke post, but I think I'm a pretty good boss and I spend most of my time fighting management on behalf of my department, employees who work for me, or other employees. mllaneza posted:That's a "thank you for your time" red flag in phone interviews for me anymore. Last time it came up I hoped out of the in-person in about 5 minutes. Is that really a huge red flag? I thank people for their time constantly, because I genuinely appreciate them spending the time and effort to apply to and interview for a position. I know it's a stressful, time consuming experience that you don't get paid for.
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May 15, 2018 16:31
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Bunni-kat posted:On a different note: I'm now on a level with powershell where I can figure out what the commands I need are vaguely, and if someone else's script will actually do what I need it to rather than being "uh...maybe?". This is going to make life very slightly easier. Remember that powershell is just a program. Start hitting buttons until you find what your want to do. Two tips: 1. "man noun" gets you all the commands with that noun in the name or synopsis. So something like "man user" lists out all the commands you have installed with "user" in the name. Drill down from there. "Man noun -full" will get you more information than you'll know what to do with. 2. "get" is the default verb, and can be left off for simple commands. If you just have the full noun with no verb, "get" is assumed.
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May 15, 2018 16:38
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Wizard of the Deep posted:2. "get" is the default verb, and can be left off for simple commands. If you just have the full noun with no verb, "get" is assumed. That's wild. Is it documented anywhere? Also, this isn't necessarily a good habit to get into if anyone else will be reading your scripts.
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May 15, 2018 16:39
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Internet Explorer posted:Is that really a huge red flag? I thank people for their time constantly, because I genuinely appreciate them spending the time and effort to apply to and interview for a position. I know it's a stressful, time consuming experience that you don't get paid for. I think mllaneza means that people referring to humans as 'resources' is something that causes him to say 'thank you for your time' because he's done with them, not that 'thank you for your time' bothers him.
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May 15, 2018 16:40
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It is never too late to get-help Seriously though, Give the "powershell in a month of lunches" book a read. It's really good.
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May 15, 2018 16:42
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Eletriarnation posted:I think mllaneza means that people referring to humans as 'resources' is something that causes him to say 'thank you for your time' because he's done with them, not that 'thank you for your time' bothers him. You're right, sorry. I really should stop posting until I'm more awake.
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May 15, 2018 16:42
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RFC2324 posted:remember, ie is in management, so you can't expect him to see employees as people I am in management and avoid any kind of dehumanizing term. I avoid resource, staff, user, etc.. they are people, customers, coworkers, and at the very worst, end-user, but never user by itself.
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Sickening posted:My employer loves surveys. Today we got one with a lot of hard hitting questions. Questions that if you were candid at all would not be good for you. Every person in the company got a unique link to take the survey. I never fill these out. I'm the only IT guy in my area, and the first 2 questions are what department do you work in, and what office do you work in. 3rd party supposedly keeps it confidential, but nope, not going to risk it.
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Sickening posted:My employer loves surveys. Today we got one with a lot of hard hitting questions. Questions that if you were candid at all would not be good for you. Every person in the company got a unique link to take the survey. My last company did this same thing. Then after all the nerds complained that it was impossible to be confidential they super double promised they would have someone anonymize the data. They called a meeting and everything to tell us they promise it's confidential. Spent a lot of money on having 100 people in a room to argue that we should totally trust HR with this and they didn't understand why we thought it wasn't confidential in the first place. Eventually they relented and made an anonymous survey after they got like 5 responses. Then to no ones surprise, they disregarded the data because they didn't like the answers.
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adorai posted:I am in management and avoid any kind of dehumanizing term. I avoid resource, staff, user, etc.. they are people, customers, coworkers, and at the very worst, end-user, but never user by itself. As an individual contributor I can understand putting humans under the umbrella of resources when a catch-all is a relevant term - it doesn't bother me if someone says "this project needs more resources" because there's not enough budget allocated to buy all the needed equipment, the schedule is too short and there aren't enough people. It bothers me more when it's used to refer only to people. When I hear "we should put another resource on this project" I know you don't mean another server or a pile of money or a row of rack space, you mean a person, so why not just refer to them using terms for people like "engineer" or "project manager" or just "person"?
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Wizard of the Deep posted:Remember that powershell is just a program. Start hitting buttons until you find what your want to do. Two tips: I'm aware. I just don't have enough time when I'm at work to really hunker down and build my own poo poo, so if I know "I need this command, and extra poo poo, and this output, this script I found will actually do that" rather than before when it was "holy poo poo that's a lot of gibberish." Sefal posted:Seriously though, Give the "powershell in a month of lunches" book a read. It's really good. Own it. It's just hard to do the exercises when you only have a production domain to test AD poo poo in, which is where 90% of my scripts are used.
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It's a lot easier to fire a "resource" than it is an actual human being.
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I don’t care at all about being labeled as a resource. Resources are valuable. They are limited. If I’m a resource then you understand that a) you need me, b) I come with a price tag and c) you can’t use me up. In general this thread is pretty mercenary about how it views career advancement. Got an offer for a job with better pay and benefits? Take it! Old job counters? gently caress em, if they really valued you they should have given you a raise earlier. You don’t owe them anything. Would anyone’s opinion on that change if the old employer called them it knowledge experts and the new one called them resources? I’m most wary of companies that say they’re like a family. If you’ve ever worked with an actual family it’s loving terrible.
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Internet Explorer posted:Is that really a huge red flag? I thank people for their time constantly, because I genuinely appreciate them spending the time and effort to apply to and interview for a position. I know it's a stressful, time consuming experience that you don't get paid for. I meant referring to people as resources is the red flag, and "thank you for your time" in the "I have decided to pursue other opportunities" sense.
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Yeah, sorry, reading is fundamental.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:That's wild. Is it documented anywhere? Always tab complete everything out to the full command/flag when making scripts.
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May 15, 2018 17:01
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I also like to use #Region (explain in short what this part does) #Region end Keeps it nice and tidy. And makes it easy for me to decipher what the hell I was doing and easier for other people to read it.
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Inspector_666 posted:Always tab complete everything out to the full command/flag when making scripts. Yep! I'd rather be a little more explicit with my flags, even if it takes an extra few seconds.
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May 15, 2018 17:08
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Sickening posted:My employer loves surveys. Today we got one with a lot of hard hitting questions. Questions that if you were candid at all would not be good for you. Every person in the company got a unique link to take the survey. Last time I answered one of these "anonymous" surveys honestly my boss went from pleasant to hostile and my employment there didn't last long. Lied through my teeth on every subsequent one after.
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I always assume those a trick. Now when the cafeteria sends it surveys, I give it to them with both barrels. They haven’t sent out one in over a year, probably because they finally woke up and realized they’re aggressively poo poo and always will be anyway, so why waste their time?
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:That's wild. Is it documented anywhere? Jeffery Snover talked about it last year at Ignite. Dr. Arbitrary posted:Also, this isn't necessarily a good habit to get into if anyone else will be reading your scripts. Oh, it’s a terrible habit. It’s just so cool and niche I can’t help sharing it. And it’s more for quick “I need to find X for Y right now.” I have a little snippets file for one-liners that are useful, and VS Code hates every line of it. Some lines more than once 
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YOLOsubmarine posted:I don’t care at all about being labeled as a resource. Resources are valuable. They are limited. If I’m a resource then you understand that a) you need me, b) I come with a price tag and c) you can’t use me up. "We're like a family!" is code for "We expect you to live here and obey the hierarchy at all times. Your loyalty is an absolute requirement at all times, though our loyalty to you extends only to providing you the privilege of existing in this organization. Vertical promotions will be available when senior members die off, no sooner."
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