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Covok posted:So Storm is just going to be using that hammer, isn't she? I guess it kind of makes sense since both of the Thor's lost their hammers and there's an open title now for God of Thunder. I think. This was already happening in the last two X-men gold. I like her outfit.
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It's pretty wild that "that one time Storm was Thor once briefly in the 80s" is being called back up now.
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May 10, 2018 10:29
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Android Blues posted:It's pretty wild that "that one time Storm was Thor once briefly in the 80s" is being called back up now. It's been called up and referenced like 12 times since then.
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May 10, 2018 21:28
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Rhyno posted:It's been called up and referenced like 12 times since then. I liked the bit in Marvel vs. DC where Wonder Woman picks up Thor's hammer just before she's about to fight Storm, briefly gets a new costume, then drops the hammer because the fight would be unfair. I think Storm just zaps her with lightning and wins almost immediately.
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May 11, 2018 09:21
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Skwirl posted:I liked the bit in Marvel vs. DC where Wonder Woman picks up Thor's hammer just before she's about to fight Storm, briefly gets a new costume, then drops the hammer because the fight would be unfair. That's just a poor decision on her part. Then again, that whole hammer of the Nordic gods business sorta contradicts Wonder Woman's origin story. Did one of these Marvel vs DC stories ever involve a meeting between her and Hercules? Honestly, all those deities are a bit weird. Hercules acknowledges that Odinson is the god of thunder. But that's clearly his dad.
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May 11, 2018 20:19
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cant cook creole bream posted:That's just a poor decision on her part. I don't know if DC has other pantheons, but Marvel is explicitly a pantheistic universe. The Wonder Woman thing is just showing that she's worthy. Is there a listicle of people other than the Odinson who've been worthy enough to wield Mjolnir? Beta Ray Bill was the first to my knowledge (except probably Odin himself) but since then I think it's been mostly women: Storm, Wonder Woman, Squirrel Girl, Jane.
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May 11, 2018 20:28
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Captain America and Superman both have
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May 11, 2018 20:36
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Endless Mike posted:Captain America and Superman both have Then it's tied if we count Odin.
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May 11, 2018 20:37
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Odin's not necessarily worthy, he's the one who cast the spell.
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May 11, 2018 20:41
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Aphrodite posted:Odin's not necessarily worthy, he's the one who cast the spell. Yeah, funny enough, Odin's spell eventually evolved so much that not even he could undo it or be considered worthy by it.
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May 11, 2018 20:46
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cant cook creole bream posted:Did one of these Marvel vs DC stories ever involve a meeting between her and Hercules? It happened in JLA vs. Avengers and she beats the poo poo out of him because Hercules raped Hippolyta way back in the day.
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May 11, 2018 20:50
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Aphrodite posted:Odin's not necessarily worthy, he's the one who cast the spell. Covok posted:Yeah, funny enough, Odin's spell eventually evolved so much that not even he could undo it or be considered worthy by it. I think I remember a panel in either Marvel Legacy 1 or the latest Avengers 1 where he's bitching to Mjolnir to cut it out when he's trying to lift it.
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May 11, 2018 20:52
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Loki also wielded Mjolnir once.
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May 11, 2018 20:54
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Codependent Poster posted:Loki also wielded Mjolnir once. Funny enough, I was re-listening to the Thunder and the Storm podcast's interview with Walter Simonson who went "Yeah, no, I pretended that never happened and so should you." He was referring to the first time it ever happened where it was a result of Loki being supercharged by some magic allowing him to ignore the enchantment, not during the Axis event where inverted Loki became so noble he became worthy.
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May 11, 2018 20:57
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Was that in an older story? I know inverted Loki did, but technically that only worked because he's not worthy. Just like how that time Rulk used it in space or whatever doesn't count.
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May 11, 2018 21:00
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Aphrodite posted:Was that in an older story? I know inverted Loki did, but technically that only worked because he's not worthy. Yeah, it happened before Walter Simonson took over. I think it happened back when it was still called Journey Into Mystery. Walter Simonson, ironically, is the first person to really make worthiness a big deal...by introducing the first character (as far as he was concerned) to ever be worthy to lift the hammer other than Thor.
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May 11, 2018 21:04
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pubic works project posted:It happened in JLA vs. Avengers and she beats the poo poo out of him because Hercules raped Hippolyta way back in the day. I had a feeling that this would be an awkward meeting.
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cant cook creole bream posted:That's just a poor decision on her part. Wonder Woman and Hercules met in JLA/Avengers
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May 11, 2018 22:47
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John Byrne brought in Herakles in his WW run.
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May 12, 2018 01:10
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I'm catching up on Jay and Miles and I listened to the Kelly Thompson interview, and I'm going to have to get the trade of Rogue and Gambit because drat, they make it sound like a lot of fun. Also Gambit's balls.
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twistedmentat posted:I'm catching up on Jay and Miles and I listened to the Kelly Thompson interview, and I'm going to have to get the trade of Rogue and Gambit because drat, they make it sound like a lot of fun. Also Gambit's balls. I read most of it. It was pretty good. There was a deliberate effort to remove the toxic elements of the relationship, actually have them work through their issues like real people, and a real attempt to make this famous couple not creepy and weird. There was also a deliberate effort to remove the worst parts of Gambit's character naturally. The whole thing like a very honest attempt to portray a rocky relationship between people with real issues and grievances who healthily work out those problems to reach common ground.
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May 12, 2018 03:11
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twistedmentat posted:I'm catching up on Jay and Miles and I listened to the Kelly Thompson interview, and I'm going to have to get the trade of Rogue and Gambit because drat, they make it sound like a lot of fun. Also Gambit's balls. It was absolutely a lot of fun, and well worth reading.
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May 12, 2018 11:03
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twistedmentat posted:I'm catching up on Jay and Miles and I listened to the Kelly Thompson interview, and I'm going to have to get the trade of Rogue and Gambit because drat, they make it sound like a lot of fun. Also Gambit's balls. I'm a huge fan of Rogue & Gambit (& them being together) so I am obviously the exact target audience, but it's the most fun & romantic X-book in a good while (shout out to Generation X). While the vast majority of it takes place at the mission location, the first half of the first issue actually makes the School feel like a central hub, and the little interactions between the team members are wonderful.  It's tough waiting for Kelly Thompson's next books to be announced, though her Hawkeye-involving project should be announced before the August solicits. I hope she gets an X-book too, preferably removing Guggenheim. P.S. Bunn ignoring a really fun fight involving loads of long-forgotten characters (Wildside, Dragoness, Unuscione & Wanderer!) to show another Magneto moment (over Polaris, no less) was peak Bunn. Blue is technically sound, and To's art was great, but it's just so bland.
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Yea, that's all the stuff they mention in the podcast that got me interested. Gambit, like all characters created to be cool, always bugged me, and he always seemed like a creep. Not to mention I thought to myself way back then "they only put them together because they're both from the South" and never shook it off. I'll certainly pick up the trade when it comes out. And I'll probably get any marvel book Kelly Thompson writes. Metalshark posted:the first half of the first issue actually makes the School feel like a central hub, and the little interactions between the team members are wonderful. This is something I really want to see in X-men; the school be a bigger part. It should be where everyone hangs out between crazy poo poo, be the place that everything revolves around.
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Marvel has an interview with Ed Brisson about the upcoming Extermination miniseries coming up. Sounds like it might be the end of the Original Five. https://news.marvel.com/comics/89071/ed-brisson-reveals-extermination/
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cant cook creole bream posted:I had a feeling that this would be an awkward meeting. Isn't there a thing where DC's Hercules is a son of a bitch more in keeping with the original mythology, whereas Marvel's Hercules is mostly a lovable dope?
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May 15, 2018 19:17
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Wanderer posted:Isn't there a thing where DC's Hercules is a son of a bitch more in keeping with the original mythology, whereas Marvel's Hercules is mostly a lovable dope? Pretty much. I think DC's version is still spell Herakles though.
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May 15, 2018 19:18
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Endless Mike posted:Marvel has an interview with Ed Brisson about the upcoming Extermination miniseries coming up. Sounds like it might be the end of the Original Five. Well, I'll read every comic with Ahab even though it just leaves me sad and nostalgic for Good Excalibur.
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Rhyno posted:Pretty much. I think DC's version is still spell Herakles though. You are correct sir!
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pubic works project posted:You are correct sir! Has he even been used of late? I can't really think of anything.
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May 15, 2018 19:48
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Endless Mike posted:Marvel has an interview with Ed Brisson about the upcoming Extermination miniseries coming up. Sounds like it might be the end of the Original Five. Yes. Bring original Jean back. Bring original Wolvie back. Kill off these time-displaced X-Men duplicates. Suck the old school 80's/90's fans like me back into the fold. I'm not going to run to the comic shop every week to plunk down $4 an issue, but I will buy digital collections when they go on sale.
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Rhyno posted:Has he even been used of late? I can't really think of anything. For a second I thought he was WW's brother post-N52, but then I remembered that was Jason. So, no I don't think so.
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davebo posted:Yes. Bring original Jean back. Bring original Wolvie back. Kill off these time-displaced X-Men duplicates. Suck the old school 80's/90's fans like me back into the fold. I'm not going to run to the comic shop every week to plunk down $4 an issue, but I will buy digital collections when they go on sale. So basically you are not at all the person they want. (And Wolverine is already back.)
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May 15, 2018 20:26
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Herakles popped up in WW during the One Year Later story.
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Endless Mike posted:So basically you are not at all the person they want. Well if they don't want the older fans then there's really no point catering to us like they have been recently. I'm just saying if they're gonna keep it up then they'll end up with some of us anyway. Sort of like how Honda came out with the Element and thought it'd be a big hit with young hip kids then it was bought overwhelmingly by seniors. And yeah I know Wolvie is back, I was running through a list of things they've done/are doing that I like.
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Not that I blame anyone for skipping out on James Robinson's WW run, but Hercules appeared in the first issue of that. Where he was promptly killed off. 
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May 15, 2018 20:39
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So not the same Herk John Byrne used back in the day. Which was terrible, nobody read Byrne's WW.
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May 15, 2018 20:41
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Rhyno posted:So not the same Herk John Byrne used back in the day. Which was terrible, nobody read Byrne's WW. I like his art on X-Men, but I've never read anything he wrote.
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Skwirl posted:I like his art on X-Men, but I've never read anything he wrote. Once upon a time I loved his work but man, finding out what kind of man he was really soured me. That said, I do still own the DC collections of his post COIE run.
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