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mcbexx posted:So what I'm reading from all this is I should sacrifice a goat to make sure my 2500k@4.2 lasts another 18-24 months? The chip will, the board, who knows.
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mcbexx posted:So what I'm reading from all this is I should sacrifice a goat to make sure my 2500k@4.2 lasts another 18-24 months? I wouldn't be surprised if Zen 2 is better than the Intel chips and it will be out a lot sooner. MaxxBot fucked around with this message at 23:18 on May 15, 2018 |
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May 15, 2018 23:16
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MaxxBot posted:Lmao I'm so glad every other fab teamed up to deliver the punchline to this rolling comedy cramp
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MaxxBot posted:I wouldn't be surprised if Zen 2 is better than the Intel chips and it will be out a lot sooner. Do you think we'll see zen 2+ within 5-6~ months of intel 10nm?
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Zen 2 on 7nm (which is similar to Intel 10nm) is coming in about a year or less, they're sampling chips at the end of this year. Intel 10nm desktop release date at this point is basically 
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May 15, 2018 23:31
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https://twitter.com/TMFChipFool/status/996478399794368514
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May 15, 2018 23:37
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I'm starting to get Pentium 4 flashbacks. Make it stop plz.
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May 16, 2018 00:20
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Serious question. Has one been using one of these new AMD systems for say 6+ months and had it be completely stable and glitch free? Talking Threadripper or Ryzens.
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May 16, 2018 00:22
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redeyes posted:Serious question. Has one been using one of these new AMD systems for say 6+ months and had it be completely stable and glitch free? Talking Threadripper or Ryzens. I've had zero problems on both my R3 1200 PCs, both running linux (one as a server and one running as a desktop PC). Both overclocked to 3.8Ghz with stock cooling and 3200mhz RAM (though one of the boards is a low-end part and can only manage 2999).
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May 16, 2018 00:40
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That is reassuring. Any windows users?
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May 16, 2018 00:47
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redeyes posted:Serious question. Has one been using one of these new AMD systems for say 6+ months and had it be completely stable and glitch free? Talking Threadripper or Ryzens. I've had a 1600 that has been stable and no glitches that I know of. I did buy slower RAM though. Edit: since last fall. August I think?
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May 16, 2018 00:53
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Really good to hear! Time to bust a cap in my 7700k and get some more cores.
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May 16, 2018 00:56
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Do you have some software that causes capacitors to burst
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May 16, 2018 00:57
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They're def. stable. My friend has been sharing a 1700 with his gamer son since they launched, it's been mixing audio for 10 hours a day then gaming all night. I doubt it's been powered off more then an hour since it was built last year.
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redeyes posted:Serious question. Has one been using one of these new AMD systems for say 6+ months and had it be completely stable and glitch free? Talking Threadripper or Ryzens.
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May 16, 2018 01:13
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Twerk from Home posted:Buy a Threadripper. Threaderipper Gen2 will be a powerhouse, and Threadripper gen1 is down to ~$700 for 16C/32T.
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May 16, 2018 01:27
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mewse posted:Do you have some software that causes capacitors to burst I'm going to shoot my piece of poo poo 4 core.
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May 16, 2018 01:48
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redeyes posted:I'm going to shoot my piece of poo poo 4 core. I don't even have hyperthreading. Man that was a mistake.
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May 16, 2018 01:50
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Jesus. No wonder they had to go with the Keller Option. This is unironically the state AMD was in six-seven years ago.
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May 16, 2018 04:49
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Hope other fabs don't experience delays "at the last minute".
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May 16, 2018 04:56
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I've got a 1950x with sli 1080tis and have had zero issues with it from day one
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May 16, 2018 05:35
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Twerk from Home posted:Would you be happy with 2x7700K performance at 2x7700K TDP? Somewhere around 140W, TDP does start to be a real problem. There's a reason server cooling is so obnoxiously loud. 
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Malloc Voidstar posted:140W TDP isn't a problem if you have a cooler of the right size Those coolers look great on mitx boards.
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Those coolers look great on mitx boards. While we're on the topic of matx/mitx mobo gangbanging... 
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Combat Pretzel posted:I actually want one, because cores, lanes and ECC. But the gaming side is pretty icky, with what the high inter-die latency. If I knew that the Game Mode of Windows 10 would stick everything on the same NUMA node automagically (instead of being required to boot into AMDs own Game Mode), that'd be that, but I don't. I fixed this by doing my gaming on a Windows VM in KVM and pinning six cores to one physical CPU and running the processor in NUMA mode. ( Channel mode ). With looking Glass in full screen mode and a dedicated mouse or a steam link on the TV it works really nice. redeyes posted:Serious question. Has one been using one of these new AMD systems for say 6+ months and had it be completely stable and glitch free? Talking Threadripper or Ryzens. On Windows a 1950X is completely stable, on Linux I had some issues with KVM and GPU passtrough, but after compiling a new kernel with some patches for PCIe it works really well. I've bought this CPU when it came out in Europe.
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redeyes posted:I'm starting to get Pentium 4 flashbacks. Make it stop plz. Ha, I had similar thoughts. What if the Atom team does to the Core architecture what the Pentium M did to NetBurst? mcbexx posted:So what I'm reading from all this is I should sacrifice a goat to make sure my 2500k@4.2 lasts another 18-24 months? Depends on your workload, if you run some multithreaded productivity applications then you can count on AMD for incremental improvements over the next few years until they run out of If you play a lot of games at high FPS then consider a 6C (soon 8C) Coffee Lake CPU and OC it to 5 GHz because neither Intel nor AMD look like they‘ll be able to beat that by a large margin in the next few years. I hope I‘m wrong.
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8c coffee lake is interesting. Wonder if it will match pre - meltdown patch coffeelake IPC or not.
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Nah unlike amd Intel had a decent arch they just are hopelessly tied to their fabs Now that their fabs are hosed due to hubris they are hosed since internet senior leadership is moronic Modems are not on Intel fabs tho, and maybe that discrete Gpu isn't but given that Intel has always been full of its fabrication technology lead they are going to be in a lot of pain while they flail around and likely spin out their fab tech Brian K should be fired, no CEO can preside over such a gently caress up and stay on
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eames posted:Ha, I had similar thoughts. What if the Atom team does to the Core architecture what the Pentium M did to NetBurst? Jim Keller hasn't worked for Apple in years and they still make the best CPUs out there ( at their place on the PPA optimal frontier). AMD has enough to last them a decade
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May 16, 2018 11:59
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Why spend 20% more money on a mitx board then stick huge components on it?
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redeyes posted:Serious question. Has one been using one of these new AMD systems for say 6+ months and had it be completely stable and glitch free? Talking Threadripper or Ryzens. I know the moment is kinda passed, but my R7 1700 has been flawless since July last year.
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Potato Salad posted:Why spend 20% more money on a mitx board then stick huge components on it? I still think mATX is the best form factor. Even better than ATX, since who (honestly) runs that many expansion cards?
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redeyes posted:Serious question. Has one been using one of these new AMD systems for say 6+ months and had it be completely stable and glitch free? Talking Threadripper or Ryzens. Launch Ryzen 1700/B350 here, works perfectly fine, Windows 10. Handbrake/games/monero [  ] weeks and weeks stable.
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eames posted:Ha, I had similar thoughts. What if the Atom team does to the Core architecture what the Pentium M did to NetBurst? This seems possible. The 16-core Denverton outperforms 6-core/12-thread Coffee lake in multithreaded tasks while using less power. I'd be curious about die size comparisons, but Intel doesn't release that info anymore.
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Potato Salad posted:Why spend 20% more money on a mitx board then stick huge components on it? Smallest computer with the best cooling on air (no pump noise, can run small loads passively, etc).
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Apparently Cannonlake-U is the first consumer architecture with AVX512 support, even though ARK says it's not supported. https://twitter.com/instlatx64/status/996711279019601920?s=21
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With 10mm delayed does that mean we won’t see any significant boosts in mobile or laptop performance for next few years? Aside from small incremental gains or little things like a new Bluetooth version.
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Tab8715 posted:With 10mm delayed does that mean we won’t see any significant boosts in mobile or laptop performance for next few years? Wouldn't that be on the chipset and not the cpu package? They are free to add more to their chipsets
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