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Mistle
Oct 11, 2005

Eckot's comic relief cousin from out of town
Grimey Drawer

Cry Havoc posted:

but you better believe they won’t stop calling it burma lol

Nah, BBC calls it "country of Myanmar, formerly known as Burma"

It's like "A Tribe Called Quest" you have to say the whole thing

Grand Fromage posted:

Yeah they're just rightfully scared that those products in China are fake. They don't trust importers to be genuine either.

Going to Japan to buy like twelve rice cookers apiece is more of a mystery but I assume there's reselling or the entire extended family has demanded them or something going on there. That's another thing, mainlanders will demand tribute if you go abroad so some people are buying those 80 cans of baby formula not for themselves, but for everyone they know.

China may hate Japan, but they don't hate Japanese products. Besides, fancy rice cookers with actual accurate temperature gauges, a keep-warm mode, and--most importantly--the multiple tunes and chimes for when it finishes cooking really scratch that conspicuous consumption itch and scream "premium import" to all the people who eat rice as guests in your house.

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I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
Well??? What does it say?

Escape Addict
Jan 25, 2012

YOSPOS

Pirate Radar posted:

Well??? What does it say?

"Wear a fancy suit consisting of more than four, but fewer than six, pieces."

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
It has a great web site: http://www.asianworldpress.com/about.html

Bajaj
Sep 13, 2017

by FactsAreUseless


LMAO

Bajaj fucked around with this message at 12:10 on May 16, 2018

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Trust me the kid doesn’t give a poo poo

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
In my history class, I'm currently teaching about various ancient systems of government. The textbook says that after Qin Shi Huangdi unified China, it was a single, stable government for the next 2,200 years.

So in class today I pointed out that the textbook is a loving liar and that the students would be stupid to believe it. Since the major theme of the course is teaching students to look for credibility in sources, this was about as good a way as I could think of to apply the skill to the real world.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Atlas Hugged posted:

In my history class, I'm currently teaching about various ancient systems of government. The textbook says that after Qin Shi Huangdi unified China, it was a single, stable government for the next 2,200 years.

So in class today I pointed out that the textbook is a loving liar and that the students would be stupid to believe it. Since the major theme of the course is teaching students to look for credibility in sources, this was about as good a way as I could think of to apply the skill to the real world.

Where are you teaching?

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
If it was so loving stable we would still be under the Qin Dynasty.

Holy poo poo what a load of bullshit.

This textbook is actually quite counter revolutionary and sidestep the Japanese invasion and 1911

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug
That's right! They dishonour the heroes and martyrs of the century of humiliation!

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

Based on the cover, it starts with a hearty helping of GHB.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Platystemon posted:

Where are you teaching?

Bangkok, fortunately(?).

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense




I have this book, it’s hilarious

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

Snowy posted:

I have this book, it’s hilarious

Pointers, please? My usual panty-dropping arsenal of awkward, open-mouthed stares followed by an insincere compliment about her shoes is... somewhat lacking.


HAHAHA JK, I'm not gonna gently caress her if her shoes are ugly.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Baronjutter posted:

I remember watching some documentary on the treasure fleet and a bunch of ship builders and historians were saying the official chinese party line on the size of the ships was physically impossible. Like they were most likely real, and most likely very big for the day, but they weren't 300 or even 500 feet like some like to claim.

Yeah. Zheng He and the treasure fleet definitely were a thing, and the ships were probably pretty impressive (keep in mind how tiny the early European ocean exploration ships actually were, they were a lot smaller than you think) but the PRC lies about the ships. Like how Korea lies about turtle ships being ironclads.

caberham posted:

If it was so loving stable we would still be under the Qin Dynasty.

Holy poo poo what a load of bullshit.

Seriously. The Qin collapsed like, immediately. I don't think they lasted five years after Qin Shi Huangdi died.

Three Kingdoms???????????

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Grand Fromage posted:

Yeah. Zheng He and the treasure fleet definitely were a thing, and the ships were probably pretty impressive (keep in mind how tiny the early European ocean exploration ships actually were, they were a lot smaller than you think) but the PRC lies about the ships. Like how Korea lies about turtle ships being ironclads.


Seriously. The Qin collapsed like, immediately. I don't think they lasted five years after Qin Shi Huangdi died.

Three Kingdoms???????????

This was literally what I said. Everyone in Thailand knows Three Kingdoms because half of their dumb TV dramas are imported versions of it and since the first thing I did was teach my students how to read a timeline, they all had a good laugh at the book's insane claim.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Already going bald.

Cry Havoc
May 10, 2004

This cyberpunk cartoon avatar is pretty dang ol' good, I tell you what.
looks like someone wasn’t getting the good stuff from australia

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

Grand Fromage posted:

Yeah. Zheng He and the treasure fleet definitely were a thing, and the ships were probably pretty impressive (keep in mind how tiny the early European ocean exploration ships actually were, they were a lot smaller than you think) but the PRC lies about the ships. Like how Korea lies about turtle ships being ironclads.


They were even smaller than what Fromage is making them out to be, the first European ship to reach Australia was 20m long (the Duyfken). I slept on the replica of it when I was a kid, I can't imagine spending several months on that thing with a full crew.

underage at the vape shop fucked around with this message at 17:31 on May 16, 2018

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry
Boner pills made from Zheng He's fleet.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I thought the average treasure ship size was 300', this is very unsettling.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
european exploration ships were small because being on the high seas means being small enough to be able to roll with the waves, and caravels were even capable of staying afloat during hurricanes with a skilled crew

that the chinese were apparently obsessed with building hulking face monstrosities is not a point in their favor in terms of naval engineering

underage at the vape shop posted:

I slept on the replica of it when I was a kid, I can't imagine spending several months on that thing with a full crew.

lots of singing and gay orgies hth

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
Trying to grow things and keeping livestock on a long sea voyage sounds incredibly stupid and implausible. It reminds me of a kickstarter idea that sounds good but isn't physically possible because the person behind it has no scientific or engineering expwrtise.

yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle

nickmeister posted:

Trying to grow things and keeping livestock on a long sea voyage sounds incredibly stupid and implausible. It reminds me of a kickstarter idea that sounds good but isn't physically possible because the person behind it has no scientific or engineering expwrtise.

I don't know about growing things, but most western sailing vessels on long voyages would have had chickens for eggs and a goat or cow for milk, sometimes pigs as well.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
Animals can get sea legs like anyone else, but yeah, generally just basic things and it's a little bit weird in hindsight that nobody seems to have made a serious go at growing fruits and vegetables on a ship. Maybe because we're spoiled nowadays by access to the ubermensch of vegetables, the potato, which Europeans obviously didn't have.

Fishing was also an important supplement which is why the Grand Banks of Newfoundland blew European minds to the extent that it did.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

this is peak China for anyone who has never been here. It’s absolutely perfect

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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Fojar38 posted:

Animals can get sea legs like anyone else, but yeah, generally just basic things and it's a little bit weird in hindsight that nobody seems to have made a serious go at growing fruits and vegetables on a ship. Maybe because we're spoiled nowadays by access to the ubermensch of vegetables, the potato, which Europeans obviously didn't have.

Fishing was also an important supplement which is why the Grand Banks of Newfoundland blew European minds to the extent that it did.

Kevin Costner made a pretty good go of it in that documentary he did 20 years ago. Did pretty well until his ship was destroyed if I recall.

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
Carrying water for plants seems awfully excessive.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

nickmeister posted:

Carrying water for plants seems awfully excessive.

Theoretically one could catch rainwater, but yeah, nowhere near as reliable as livestock.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


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I love you all
Who needs water when you can just drain a turtle.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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Camels can drink sea water.

The problem with that is you're in the middle of the pacific, stranded on a boat with a ton of the earthly embodiment of belligerence and spite.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Outrail posted:

The problem with that is you're in the middle of the pacific, stranded on a boat with a ton of the earthly embodiment of belligerence and spite.

Okay but we were talking about early modern European exploration, not going on a cruise in 2018

etalian
Mar 20, 2006


Extra space to hold all the healthy hot water

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Atlas Hugged posted:

Who needs water when you can just drain a turtle.

For those who might not get the reference.

"Giant tortoises were invaluable to sailors, as they could be kept alive for at least six months without food or water. Stacked helplessly on their backs, they could be killed and eaten as and when necessary. Better still, they sucked up gallons of water at a time and kept it in a special bladder, meaning that a carefully butchered tortoise was also a fountain of cool, perfectly drinkable water. Large-scale commercial whaling in the 19th century was only made possible because the giant tortoises enabled ships to stay at sea for weeks at a time."

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Blistex posted:

For those who might not get the reference.

"Giant tortoises were invaluable to sailors, as they could be kept alive for at least six months without food or water. Stacked helplessly on their backs, they could be killed and eaten as and when necessary. Better still, they sucked up gallons of water at a time and kept it in a special bladder, meaning that a carefully butchered tortoise was also a fountain of cool, perfectly drinkable water. Large-scale commercial whaling in the 19th century was only made possible because the giant tortoises enabled ships to stay at sea for weeks at a time."

Homo Sapiens wins again

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


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And we ate most of them into extinction.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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Fojar38 posted:

Okay but we were talking about early modern European exploration, not going on a cruise in 2018

I've got no problem eating the average modern cruise ship passenger should the need arise.

Cry Havoc
May 10, 2004

This cyberpunk cartoon avatar is pretty dang ol' good, I tell you what.
those sailors must’ve been having so much sex with each other from all the turtle boner medicine

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Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

Cry Havoc posted:

those sailors must’ve been having so much sex with each other from all the turtle boner medicine

They weren't endangered at the time. It only gives boners if the thing is rare AND unusual.

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