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I think they should actively troll people who want a Star Trekian level of continuity from a movie-mocking puppet show but that might be too mean-spirited for Joel and the others.
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I just watched the "We Brought Back MST3K" doc, and Joel's earliest plan for the revival was to have him, Mike, Trace Crow, Bill Crow, Josh Tom, Kevin Tom, Clayton, Larry, Frank, Pearl, Brain Guy, and Bobo all on the show. Theater would've been PACKED
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May 16, 2018 19:16
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My ideal anniversary show would've involved all three sets of riffers in the theater together with little to no explanation whatsoever.
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May 16, 2018 19:22
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i'm glad that mary jo, kevin, and bill are so game to be guest stars (probably easier to schedule than mark hamill) and iirc the main reason mike didn't come is because he's busy with his own thing now?
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May 16, 2018 19:37
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boner confessor posted:i'm glad that mary jo, kevin, and bill are so game to be guest stars (probably easier to schedule than mark hamill) and iirc the main reason mike didn't come is because he's busy with his own thing now? I mean, he's busy with Rifftrax
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May 16, 2018 19:40
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I want it to be revealed that Mike's the assistant manager at Joel's Hot Fish Sandwich shop
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May 16, 2018 19:43
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They should just reveal that in-universe Rifftrax is what Mike and the original bots did after they got back to Earth.
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May 16, 2018 23:05
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Mantis42 posted:They should just reveal that in-universe Rifftrax is what Mike and the original bots did after they got back to Earth. That would be great.
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What iRiff's do you recommend? I've seen more bad than good, but there is some gold My best find is Movie Maochists. Their riffs are delivered dead pan, and usually crass. Bus Nut is only 25 cents VOD 3-pack is $1.99 and comes with 3 shorts. If you liked Bus Nut, you will like all of these. Atomic Age Cinema is probably more skilled and a delight to watch, but unfortunately outside of this not-so-good copy of The Crater Lake Monster, and a downloaded copy of The Torture Chamber Of Dr. Sadism I have (YT pulls it down because  ), I can't find any more and they aren't for sale anywhere. These guys use to do a local horror show in Indiana.
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May 17, 2018 00:23
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Not Rifftrax but Mike did a podcast about Ready Player One and Armada that is fantastic. It's called 357 Pages I'll Never Get Back or something like that.
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twistedmentat posted:Not Rifftrax but Mike did a podcast about Ready Player One and Armada that is fantastic. It's called 357 Pages I'll Never Get Back or something like that. I didn't know they eventually went back and did Armada. I'm sure it's entertaining, but I really don't want to read anything else Ernest Cline wrote.
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May 17, 2018 00:31
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Burkion posted:I mean we have enough Toms running around, I don't see why not And then of course there's this mysterious fellow from Carnival Magic...  Multiple experiments? Mass-produced bots? Parallel universes? ...I should really just relax.
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May 17, 2018 00:40
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WhiteHowler posted:http://372pages.com/ Yea, I don't think they were planning on it but after the response they got from the RP1 episodes they decided. Thing is, I can see how people could enjoy RP1, its a bad book but at least it could be fun quick beach read or if you were stuck on a flight with no on board entertainment. But Armada just sounds so painful.
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Powered Descent posted:And then of course there's this mysterious fellow from Carnival Magic... So that's where that old AMC Crow went.
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twistedmentat posted:Not Rifftrax but Mike did a podcast about Ready Player One and Armada that is fantastic. It's called 357 Pages I'll Never Get Back or something like that. I just completed their first season. It’s probably worth a listen, but my god the guy who isn’t Mike has some horrible opinions on movies and shows. It’s also a little disheartening to hear Mike be so completely dismissive of any popular media from the last 30 years. I hate RP1 with the fury of a thousand suns, but my issue with the book has always been the disposable way Cline mentions all those movies and games etc. Mike seems to hate that any of those things even exist. There’s also a couple moments that stick out because they remind you that Mike is a moderately conservative religious man from the Midwest.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:There’s also a couple moments that stick out because they remind you that Mike is a moderately conservative religious man from the Midwest. With Joel, I've never really been worried about the guy because while he's also from the Midwest, he is entirely on the Hippie With Weed side of things that has been very quick to aggressively argue against stupid poo poo when he had reason to. Mike, I love Mike but I also treat him like a hypothetical borderline racist uncle. You don't KNOW he has lovely beliefs exactly, but you're super worried one day he's going to start ranting about the gays or something at Thanksgiving
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May 17, 2018 01:25
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People always talk about Joel being a stoner but is that... true?
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Burkion posted:With Joel, I've never really been worried about the guy because while he's also from the Midwest, he is entirely on the Hippie With Weed side of things that has been very quick to aggressively argue against stupid poo poo when he had reason to. this is the first time I've been able to place why I find Joel is more relaxing, and in certain moods I'm just not up for Mike.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I just completed their first season. It’s probably worth a listen, but my god the guy who isn’t Mike has some horrible opinions on movies and shows. It’s also a little disheartening to hear Mike be so completely dismissive of any popular media from the last 30 years. I hate RP1 with the fury of a thousand suns, but my issue with the book has always been the disposable way Cline mentions all those movies and games etc. Mike seems to hate that any of those things even exist. The other dude is also the head writer for RiffTrax.
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Burkion posted:With Joel, I've never really been worried about the guy because while he's also from the Midwest, he is entirely on the Hippie With Weed side of things that has been very quick to aggressively argue against stupid poo poo when he had reason to. I should clarify that those glaring moments aren’t Mike literally stumping for Trump or calling someone a snowflake or anything remotely like that. They’re just little moments where he’ll laugh at or make a joke about something particular and you can pretty easily infer what his actual thoughts on it are. The only thing he gets really blunt about is the RP1 main character’s two-page thoughts on religion.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I should clarify that those glaring moments aren’t Mike literally stumping for Trump or calling someone a snowflake or anything remotely like that. They’re just little moments where he’ll laugh at or make a joke about something particular and you can pretty easily infer what his actual thoughts on it are. The only thing he gets really blunt about is the RP1 main character’s two-page thoughts on religion. Absolutely, yes. Again, I love Mike. As far as I am aware he is a perfectly good guy who thinks a few things I don't agree with but nothing wrong or anything. Just, man, I hope that thanksgiving never comes
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precision posted:People always talk about Joel being a stoner but is that... true? Go watch some of the early host segments where he is stoned.
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I mean I just always thought he was really mellow. I didn't think he was actually stoned, I thought people just were assuming that.
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I feel like I remember this coming up on his WTF interview w Marc Maron and possibly he said he tried it at some point but wasn't really into it but I wasn't paying that much attention when I listened so I may be wrong. Edit I do remember Jonah talking about smoking opium though lol Dixville fucked around with this message at 04:39 on May 17, 2018 |
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May 17, 2018 04:35
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I figured it was just part of his performance. It’s like a considerably more pronounced version of his stand-up persona, complete with flubbed delivery that he just steamrolls over.
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May 17, 2018 04:35
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Yeah, that's what I was getting at, I thought it was an act.
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Burkion posted:Absolutely, yes.
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Burkion posted:borderline racist uncle Not an unfair description of Joel either...
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business hammocks posted:I know other people have said this before, but I’d love it if Mike called the sol over the viewscreen and the Corbett Crow and Murphy Servo were there in his apartment with no explanation or comment. oh god that would imply that Jonah's Crow could be a disguised Timmy 
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May 17, 2018 05:29
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There's a series of smoking pot riffs in Mighty Jack that makes me laugh every time. Also, I'm Mighty Jack! I make my own gravy!
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Well I still couldn't quite make it through the WTF podcast (though the beginning is pretty interesting) but I found this interview http://www.laweekly.com/film/joel-hodgson-mst3k-isnt-about-ridicule-its-a-variety-show-built-on-the-back-of-a-movie-6363219 Joel posted:I have smoked pot in life, and I admit it. But I didn't while making Mystery Science Theater. Not implying that everyone on the staff was a teetotaler or anything but he really is just a sleepy eyed dude apparently!
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May 17, 2018 05:50
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Alehkhs posted:Not an unfair description of Joel either... Joel at least, I get the impression, wised up to some of his worse habits from the 80s and shaped up over the years. Specifically referring to the 'asian glasses' prop. I doubt he remembers that fondly now. Mike is the kind of guy that wouldn't get exactly why that was wrong at the time but at least knows that people wouldn't like it and has enough sense not to say anything about it. That's why I'm more forgiving of Joel in this venue. Now if Joel was still pushing that kind of poo poo, that'd be one thing but everything points to him being smarter now.
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Man I'm so glad you guys can read Joel and Mike's minds and tell us exactly how problematic they are to five decimal places of accuracy.
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Nessus posted:My impression is that if Mike was a typical member of the right wing we would be in a much better place as a nation. That said I would absolutely not ask about his opinion on key social topics. Well, the thing is...there’s already a baseline. Here’s an interesting host segment from Future War that Mike presided over: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADiNgr0C5d4 “Nonono, [2.7 times a lady isn’t] bad! Sure, Wynona is 3.3 times a lady, but Nina Totenberg is only two and a half! And Melissa Etheridge is—ooh, well, pretty low, heh-heh.” Worth remembering, though: That was from 1999, when the average American had more hosed up notions about the so-called femininity of gay women. If you can’t see the video, that’s Bill Friggin’ Corbett as Crow delivering the line (which is already part of a fraught premise, albeit one based on a very mockable love song), and if you follow him on Twitter you know the dude is a fairly hardcore social justice guy. I don’t know if anyone ever asked him about it, but I’m willing to bet he’d be embarrassed and apologetic. If you’re willing to latch onto something a little less certain for hope, I remember reading an interview with Mike where he talked diplomatically about meeting fans who called him out for insensitivity in the past, and how he slowly learned to do better by them. And to his credit, I don’t recall a single Rifftrax that ever even approached the same kind of shittiness of that Melissa Etheridge joke. Still, I think about that segment whenever I’m reminded of Mike Nelson being a Republican. But honestly, I like him; he’s funny as hell, by all accounts a good dude, and if he could stand to be a little more empathetic, he’s still mostly harmless. I didn’t come here to tell you he’s cancelled, just wanted to give my complicated thoughts on the subject at hand. ...this isn’t a Wendy’s drive-thru, is it? DivisionPost fucked around with this message at 06:13 on May 17, 2018 |
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Jet Jaguar posted:There's a series of smoking pot riffs in Mighty Jack that makes me laugh every time. There's a line in Godzilla vs. Megalon, IIRC, where Joel says something like "I didn't know you were holding, my friend".  And in Mike's case, let's not forget the many pothead riffs Crow doled out during Laserblast. "Mike, when you saw this movie, you laughed so hard you spilled your bong water, didn't ya?"  E: Dixville posted:Not implying that everyone on the staff was a teetotaler or anything but he really is just a sleepy eyed dude apparently! On that note, Frank definitely is, as that's part of the reason he got involved with MST3K in the first place: his family sent him from New York to Minnesota to go thru rehab for substance abuse. Sydney Bottocks fucked around with this message at 06:26 on May 17, 2018 |
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May 17, 2018 06:24
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On the topic of people's opinions, honestly I don't think it's too important how they feel about something unless they're being an rear end in a top hat about it, especially in public
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May 17, 2018 06:54
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Man I’m so glad the hosts of my favorite cowtown puppet show pass my ideological purity tests.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I should clarify that those glaring moments aren’t Mike literally stumping for Trump or calling someone a snowflake or anything remotely like that. They’re just little moments where he’ll laugh at or make a joke about something particular and you can pretty easily infer what his actual thoughts on it are. The only thing he gets really blunt about is the RP1 main character’s two-page thoughts on religion. The atheist screed in RP1 is loving horrible and I found nothing wrong with Mike's reactions to it, as a non-religious person
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May 17, 2018 07:00
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Also Mike does a podcast about christianity with a pastor from his church if you really want to get into the guy's head before you make more posts about him
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To quote John Mulaney, "what kind of moron would believe in God? MY MOMMY, YOU rear end in a top hat!"
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