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bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


LastInLine posted:

The actual blog post explicitly states that is not the not the case.

So, what's not explicitly clear is what happens to people who have Youtube Red who get it for free through GPM. I don't have the grandfathered price, so I pay the normal 9.99 amount.

We know if you currently have Youtube Red, you are grandfathered into Youtube Premium. Should I drop my GPM sub now and signup for Youtube Red directly to secure $9.99? Or am I fine to inherit Youtube Premium and my sub will transfer over to that billing at some point in the future?

Edit: gently caress it, I switched over to youtube red from GPM just to ensure there's no goofiness involved in grandfathering. 6 and 1/2 dozen of the other right now.

bull3964 fucked around with this message at 13:33 on May 17, 2018

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Taffer
Oct 15, 2010


So.... Gonna lose all my music uploads, then? Christ. What other services allow uploading together with a full streaming service?

nimper
Jun 19, 2003

livin' in a hopium den
What I understand is that if you are a YT Red subscriber, you get YT Premium at the same price level. YT Premium includes YT Music.

So, if you are not currently a YT Red subscriber, now is a good time to become one.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Taffer posted:

So.... Gonna lose all my music uploads, then? Christ. What other services allow uploading together with a full streaming service?

We don't know what's going to happen yet because they've yet to flesh out what the "new" YouTube music will entail and they haven't set a date where GPM is going away.

If you sub to YouTube Red, you get GPM. So, it seems advisable at this point if you don't want to spend the extra $2 for ad free YouTube and YouTube originals, to switch your billing over to YouTube red so there's no confusion (HA!) in the future.

It's possible that billing though GPM will also let you inherit pricing for YouTube Premium since you have YouTube Red, but they haven't explicitly said so.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!
so as a family subscriber to GPM that also uses (and loves) YTR i'm hosed on pricing.

cool.

Maker Of Shoes fucked around with this message at 17:11 on May 17, 2018

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



They already said they had no plans to revert being able to upload your own music

incogneato
Jun 4, 2007

Zoom! Swish! Bang!

Maker Of Shoes posted:

so as a family subscriber to GPM that also uses (and loves) YTR i'm hosed on pricing.

cool.

I am also a GPM family subscriber, and use the ad-free YouTube a lot. Can you explain why you're hosed? It sounds like our best option right now is to quickly change our subscriptions to YouTube Red family plans, so that we get YouTube premium when this nightmare comes to pass. Or am I missing something?

Which is a dumb loving loophole to have to jump through. Will I lose all my GPM playlists? How the hell will this work?

What a shitshow. I'd run away to Spotify, but I love ad-free YouTube so much. Not feeling like +$2 per month though.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Again, we don't really know what the retirement of GPM looks like or what the new YouTube Music looks like since that won't launch till Tuesday.

Switching subs is painless though since your GPM sub doesn't run it until your month ends. So, you can cancel that sub and as long as you sign up for YouTube Red prior to the GPM expiring, you won't have any continuity loss in service. You've just changed how the service is being billed.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!
my biggest problem is i just dont know what to do. i have a gpm family for $15. we use the hell out of both gpm and ytr. do I just sit and wait until this clears up? at the end of the day it feels like i'm going to be paying more to maintain the same amount of services.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Maker Of Shoes posted:

my biggest problem is i just dont know what to do. i have a gpm family for $15. we use the hell out of both gpm and ytr. do I just sit and wait until this clears up? at the end of the day it feels like i'm going to be paying more to maintain the same amount of services.

YouTube Red Family is the same price and you get access to GPM that you use now. You should be able to cancel your GPM sub and sign up for YouTube Red and have nothing change for now. What you gain is a higher probability you will be grandfathered into YouTube Premium. I think everyone is in the dark as to how Family plans are supposed to work moving forward, but you can only increase the chances of a favorable outcome by switching subs.

Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


Yeah, I hope they come out and say what happens to Google play music subscribers. The grandfathered price is why I've never looked anything else.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Or maybe what happens to the 99% of the world not in those few countries.

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007



Wacky Delly posted:

Yeah, I hope they come out and say what happens to Google play music subscribers. The grandfathered price is why I've never looked anything else.

I just called Google Play who transferred me over to YouTube Red / GPM support. He confirmed to me that you will only receive YouTube MUSIC Premium and not YouTube Premium if you keep your GPM account. You WILL have to move over to YouTube Red (thus paying $2 more and losing grandfather status on GPM) but when Red turns into Premium, you will have YouTube Premium for $10 instead of $12.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!

ThermoPhysical posted:

I just called Google Play who transferred me over to YouTube Red / GPM support. He confirmed to me that you will only receive YouTube MUSIC Premium and not YouTube Premium if you keep your GPM account. You WILL have to move over to YouTube Red (thus paying $2 more and losing grandfather status on GPM) but when Red turns into Premium, you will have YouTube Premium for $10 instead of $12.

If I go through cancelling my GPM then upping YTR I assume that's going to obliterate my playlists.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

Maker Of Shoes posted:

If I go through cancelling my GPM then upping YTR I assume that's going to obliterate my playlists.

Nope. I just did it.

Takes like 30 seconds to cancel one and resubscribe to the other.

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007



Now Google Play Music is claiming that everyone who has GPM will get YouTube Premium for free and NOT just YouTube Music Premium.

https://twitter.com/GooglePlayMusic/status/997127746152206337

This directly contradicts their posts on the blog and now a lot of people who had grandfathered in possibly lost the cheaper price for nothing.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!

ThermoPhysical posted:

Now Google Play Music is claiming that everyone who has GPM will get YouTube Premium for free and NOT just YouTube Music Premium.

https://twitter.com/GooglePlayMusic/status/997127746152206337

This directly contradicts their posts on the blog and now a lot of people who had grandfathered in possibly lost the cheaper price for nothing.

lmao jfc

like, to be a google employee do you just hit yourself in the face with a hammer every morning?

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



Some of y'all deserve this for panicking so quickly

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

vyst posted:

Some of y'all deserve this for panicking so quickly

Well...no. It wasn't a matter of panicking, it was a matter of them saying one thing and then changing their tune.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Yeah, I'm not making any changes until they announce that poo poo is shutting down. Google can't keep poo poo straight when they have actual products launched. It's going to be complete chaos before then.

azurite
Jul 25, 2010

Strange, isn't it?!


Idk, unless they went back and changed their blog post, I interpreted it as everyone with GPM getting grandfathered in. I'm not getting rid of my GPM/YTR sub with the early bird rate until I'm forced.

XIII
Feb 11, 2009


azurite posted:

I'm not getting rid of my GPM/YTR sub with the early bird rate until I'm forced.

Same here. But, like I said earlier, I'll inevitably just end up paying whatever, whether that be the same as it is or $2/4 dollars more. Sure, I'll grumble about it, but I'll pay.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!
Yeah I'm definitely taking the wait and see approach here, they seem even more confused than we are about what they're offering. Maybe it's like a Memento situation where they keep forgetting that they already made an app that does the thing their new app is going to do

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!
why is the thread title not just ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007



Maker Of Shoes posted:

why is the thread title not just ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I agree with this post.


Right now, it seems only the Drive team has their poo poo together with how their plans will be better in a few months but YouTube's team is... doing this...

Also, as I learned from the phone call, YouTube and GPM are both run by YouTube. Google Play support has nothing to do with the subscription to Play Music.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


I didn't lose anything since I was $9.99 for GPM. I still don't completely trust their guidance, so I'm fine with flipping over.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Maker Of Shoes posted:

why is the thread title not just ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

:agreed:, unfortunately can't use those characters in a thread title, thanks Radium

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Of course, because Google Drive wasn't good enough. We needed Google One.

I am starting to dread I/O.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

azurite posted:

Idk, unless they went back and changed their blog post, I interpreted it as everyone with GPM getting grandfathered in. I'm not getting rid of my GPM/YTR sub with the early bird rate until I'm forced.

Same, and I said as much upthread. Of course, I'm used to being correct. But when

vyst posted:

Some of y'all deserve this for panicking so quickly

Goons will goon, what can you do?

CLAM DOWN posted:

Or maybe what happens to the 99% of the world not in those few countries.

As an American I was not aware there was a world. I'd look further into it but it sounds terrible.

Deeters
Aug 21, 2007


Are there any apps that work with Hue to turn on and off lights like someone's home? In their app, I can set individual schedules, but I'm lazy and one it done in a few taps.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

Deeters posted:

Are there any apps that work with Hue to turn on and off lights like someone's home? In their app, I can set individual schedules, but I'm lazy and one it done in a few taps.

I'm pretty sure in the actual Hue app, under Other Routines, there's an option for exactly this. I can't check because I'm not home.

nimper
Jun 19, 2003

livin' in a hopium den

LastInLine posted:

I'm pretty sure in the actual Hue app, under Other Routines, there's an option for exactly this. I can't check because I'm not home.

Other Routines > Add (+) > At a specific time

On that page there's a setting to randomize the start time by certain intervals.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

azurite posted:

Idk, unless they went back and changed their blog post, I interpreted it as everyone with GPM getting grandfathered in. I'm not getting rid of my GPM/YTR sub with the early bird rate until I'm forced.

I didn't even read the blog post, I was just going by what was said in this thread and in a couple of articles. The fact that so many didn't read it the way you did makes me think it wasn't clear enough on the Google blog post.

Regardless, I wasn't on the cheap GPM plan anyway, so it was just a lateral move from GPM Family to Red Family.

Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


I'm pretty sure they changed it and it originally referred to GPM subscribers getting access to Youtube Music Premium.

Anyway I asked their support and got this answer back:

Google Support posted:

I know that you're concern as to what's going to happen with your current Google Play Music subscription (I am too!) so I reached out to our specialists to get some updates.

I have good news for you! I've heard back from them and have been informed that nothing will change for all our current active subscribers to individual and family plans (including Google Play Music subscribers), they will be grandfathered into Premium (access YouTube Premium, YouTube Music and Google Play Music) at your current price.

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe
What are some recommendations for a minimum-frill map app? The default one has become obnoxiously laggy and slow to operate on my phone, don't know why.

elmer chud
May 18, 2018
(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

MisterBibs posted:

What are some recommendations for a minimum-frill map app? The default one has become obnoxiously laggy and slow to operate on my phone, don't know why.

You could try this. I haven't used it in a while but I remember it being good.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.here.app.maps&hl=en_US

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

MisterBibs posted:

What are some recommendations for a minimum-frill map app? The default one has become obnoxiously laggy and slow to operate on my phone, don't know why.

It might have some grumpy cached data that is causing problems. You can try wiping it: Settings - Apps - Maps: Force stop. Then Storage, clear data, clear cache. Then triple dot menu, uninstall updates. After that, open the app again, it'll be a bit slow to cache the map for the first time. Then go to Google Play - my apps & games and see that updates are available for it. Install these, see if it's better.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

MisterBibs posted:

What are some recommendations for a minimum-frill map app? The default one has become obnoxiously laggy and slow to operate on my phone, don't know why.

What about the Go version designed for terrible phones?

Deeters
Aug 21, 2007


nimper posted:

Other Routines > Add (+) > At a specific time

On that page there's a setting to randomize the start time by certain intervals.

I've messed with this some, but was wondering if there was more. I remember something about the app having a mode that could turn lights on and off based data they collected on you.

Edit: I got better at googling: http://labs.meethue.com/formulas/huelabs/presence-mimicking

Deeters fucked around with this message at 03:44 on May 19, 2018

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Tunga
May 7, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Ola posted:

It might have some grumpy cached data that is causing problems. You can try wiping it: Settings - Apps - Maps: Force stop. Then Storage, clear data, clear cache. Then triple dot menu, uninstall updates. After that, open the app again, it'll be a bit slow to cache the map for the first time. Then go to Google Play - my apps & games and see that updates are available for it. Install these, see if it's better.
This is not Windows. Uninstalling and reinstalling updates isn't going to leave you in a different place if you're clearing data anyway.

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